INTERESTING LIVES and INTERESTING FACTS

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Cant term this as a FACT...but interesting article;

*No Dubai for Pakistan
By DR MANZUR EJAZ
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The idea of raising Dubai-like cities on two islands near Karachi is funny. Up north we have had an agreement with the Taliban in North Waziristan; in the Punjab, we have the son of the top political man who, if reports are to be believed, subscribes to a Wahhabi ideology.

General Pervez Musharraf is worried that the Taliban are becoming a movement and a clear and present threat. In the midst of all this it is “interesting” to think of creating a Dubai.

Karachi used to be quite a city and the centre of tourist attention for many rich vacationers from the neighboring countries. That is a thing of the past. After the rise of religious fundamentalism in Pakistan in the mid-seventies, not only Karachi, but other prime tourist spots in the country also started losing attraction for the foreigners. The decline in tourism in Pakistan almost synced with the oil boom and the extremely liberal policies adopted by the Gulf Sheikhdoms, which attracted people from across the world. Dubai and other such cities in the Gulf replaced Karachi and Beirut, the latter having been destroyed by the invasions and the subsequent civil war.

Oil boom was important but it wasn’t the only factor. Just that did not create Dubai or it would have also “created” a new Saudi Arabia, arguably the biggest oil producer. Similarly, Iraq and Syria could not compete with the Gulf States for attracting the tourists and world’s financial markets. In all such cases moribund ideology and/or wars were the main obstacles. It was a combination of political stability, peace and extremely liberal policies that gave birth to the trillion-dollar cities in the Gulf.

Unfortunately, Pakistan lacks all that which can attract the outside world whether as tourists or investors. The rise of religious fundamentalist to the point where the entire ruling class has embraced theocracy in one way or another, the ongoing ethnic and sectarian violence, and war-like conditions on almost all borders, mean Pakistan can only compete with Afghanistan, not with the Gulf States.

Indeed, Pakistan cannot even compete with Egypt even though the latter is caught in its own vortex of political and social disorder. Still, some degree of liberalism allows Cairo to sell its historical significance very successfully. According to a WTO report, Egypt is earning about US$11.5 billion annually, more than Pakistan’s total foreign exchange earnings.

Pakistan is equally endowed with rich and unique historical sties, like Harappa, Mohenjodaro, Texila and many other such locations. Pakistan houses most of Sikhism’s sacred places that millions of prosperous Sikh expatriates would love to visit and spend billions of dollars on. Pakistan has breath-taking northern areas with their ancient culture and the mysterious silk route that can attract hordes of Western visitors. But tourists and visitors are not merely interested in the places they value; they also value the environment surrounding such places, the ambience, the social values of tolerance and so on. Pakistan presents a hostile and suffocated environment.
***It is ironic that Pakistan has supplied most of the labor and technical expertise for the development of the Gulf attractions. Pakistanis have provided such services to Southeast Asian countries like Indonesia where jungles have been turned into cities. But their expertise cannot be utilized in their own country. And, now, Pakistan’s new rich are providing finances to the centers its labor and technicians helped construct. But they are unwilling to invest in their own country due to their self-created troubling environment.


The rise of theocracy in Pakistan is the primary reason for creating an environment that repulses the foreigners and even its own people. One would expect that Pakistan’s ruling classes would be upset and try to fight it, if for nothing else than for their own economic interest. Not so. On the contrary, the ruling classes have abetted such an ideology.

Besides the religio-political MMA, all Muslim League groups have facilitated the injection of theocracy in Pakistan’s constitution and its justice system. Some observers note that it is not a coincidence that the chief ministers of three provinces are practicing Deobandis. As mentioned earlier, the son of one of the chief ministers, accompanying General Musharraf to India, pulled his father back when the latter was about to kiss the grave of a great saint in India.

The chief minister obliged his son with sinful eyes. This episode reflects the extent to which literalist theocracy has penetrated the body politic of Pakistan and its ruling classes.

One of the main reasons the ruling class joined the mullahs has been that the environment has been very conducive for the rich to become richer. Again, it is no coincidence that most of today’s millionaires and billionaires came into being while religious fundamentalism was on the rise. In the new theocratic environment, while the traders, industrialists, and speculators were provided with hostage markets without competition from foreign capital, the feudal elite was given an unprecedented protection under the Hudood laws to hunt the poor.

Even PIA and other airlines from the Gulf States have benefited from this hostage market created under certain ideological conditions. The Western carriers do not come to compete due to the unfriendly environment. That is why the two-way return airfare between Washington-Tokyo, a 14-hour flight, is about $650 while PIA charges double the amount for the same distance. Therefore, whether it is PIA or other business sectors, no one is interested in improving the socio-political environment. As a matter of fact, Pakistan’s ruling classes can enjoy their market monopoly if Pakistan continues to remain in the clutches of the clergy.

Therefore, no one should get excited or be worried about any Dubai-like city in Pakistan.

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Happiness is something that one settles for

After the ups and downs of ecstasy.

Perhaps one doesn't know what one is looking for;

Perhaps one doesn't realize one is free.

Year's end is time to tally up the tentacles,

Needing an occasion to take stock.

Everywhere are angels singing canticles

Well beyond the confines of the clock.

Years, no more than seconds, are but moments,

Each eternity again, again.

All live on the wheel of joys and torments,

Returning to the ramparts of the wind.

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008

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***Friends.....

***CONTRACT...........
**After serious & cautious consideration. ....your contract of friendship has been renewed for the New Year 2008 ! It was a very hard decision to make. So try not to screw it up!!! **

My Wish for You in 2008 **
*May peace break into your house and may thieves come to steal your debts. May the pockets of your jeans become a magnet of $100 bills. May love stick to your face like Vaseline and may laughter assault your lips! May your clothes smell of success like smoking tires and may happiness slap you across the face and may your tears be that of joy. May the problems you......,, had forget your home address! *
*In simple words ............ *
***May 2008 be the best year of your life!!!
*
(Aameen)

Raju

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OH...how I LOVE Olives..GREEN!* ones..!! Back in mid-80's through mid-90's, during my posting in UAE, I enjoyed the best imported large green OLIVES from Egypt and Jordan..as my regular intake. The famous arabic (owned by an Egyptian family) restaurant ABU SHAKRA had (and still does) the BEST large green OLIVES......Raju (Karachi)
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***Interesting article I caught on web...the other night........and would like to share with you;


Olives: Rediscover This Ancient Health Food
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**By Al Sears, MD

*There's a large salad bar at the back of my grocery store. Last weekend, I overheard two ladies who were assembling their salads. One said, "Olives. Oh no. My doctor said I can't touch them. They're full of fat!"
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*I wondered how many people out there are still getting this bad advice. In fact, olives may be one of the original "ancient health foods."
Whole olives have a high proportion of essential amino acids - the building blocks of protein. Olives are high in vitamin E, which occurs as a natural mixture of related oil-soluble forms far superior to single-compound synthetics. The mixture prevents oxidative stress caused by air pollution and other modern environmental toxins. *


*According to the USDA, green olives are one of the sources of vitamin K, which your body needs for proper bone formation, blood clotting, and cancer prevention. Vitamin K comes from chlorophyll, commonly found in green leafy vegetables.
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*And, yes, olives are high in fat. But that's a good thing, because olives are one of the best sources of monounsaturated fats. These good fats are rich in vitamin E and they help to lower triglycerides, reduce LDL cholesterol and raise HDL cholesterol levels.
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*A relish plate with a selection of olives and cut-up veggies is standard fare on many Thanksgiving tables. But don't limit your consumption of this powerful health food to special occasions. *


Olive bars have been opening up in food stores across the country.
Perhaps by sampling some of the exotic olives that are available you will acquire as much of a taste for them as I have.
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**[Ed. Note: Dr. Sears, a practicing physician and the author of The Doctor's Heart Cure and 12 Secrets to Virility, is a leading authority on longevity, physical fitness, and heart health.]

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A friend sent me this interesting little quiz and I thought you’d enjoy taking it, too!

Click on Dining Out In The World …

Dining Out In The World

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**REMEMBERING-ELVIS **
http://www.haremsheiks.com/REMEMBERING-ELVIS

http://d21c.com/bobbenway/ram/elvis-youll-never-walk-alone.rmCodec:RealAudio
G2

PALACE CINEMA-Karachi..adjacent to the METROPOLE HOTEL…was one of the three, besides RIO & CAPITOL, which were ELVIS special for Sunday Morning Shows…at 10 AM during “OUR” days! I was one of the first ten members of EP FAN CLUB at Karachi created by Farzana Farooqui D/O Mrs. Maryam Farooqui of Happy Home School. She received an official acknowledgement from Col.Parker from Memphis on behalf of Elvis. I received a letter & pic autographed by the King himself. That was all during 1959-64.
Some of ELVIS movies I saw (and had a collection of LPs of their songs)
KING CREOLE (aaah…“CRAWFISH” )
JAIL HOUSE ROCK,
FLAMMING STAR,
GIRLS, GIRLS, GIRLS,
KID GALAHAD,
BLUE HAWAI (who can forget that mesmerizing song …"Cant help falling in love with you…)
G. I. BLUES (…aaah…“WOODEN HEART”)
ROUSTABOUT (Motor Cycling one)
..the list has few more! scintillating ones…with TOP OF THE CHARTS numbers!

I wish there was a TV network in Pakistan where I could present a program on ELVIS PRESLEY..?


-Raju


“HIS LIFE”
Jan 8, 1935
** Elvis Aaron Presley was born at approximately 12.20 PM in East Tupelo, Mississipi. A twin brother Jesse Garon was stillborn.


Jan 8, 1946**** Elvis received his first guitar on his 11th birthday - it cost $12.75.


Sep 12, 1948**** The Presleys moved from Tupelo to Memphis Tennessee. The next day, Elvis enrolled at L.C. Humes High School.


Summer Of 1953**** Elvis made his first demo record at the Memphis Recording Service, 706 Union Avenue. He played guitar and sang “My Happiness” and “That’s When Your Heartaches Begin”.


Jul 5, 1954**** Legend began! Elvis, Scotty Moore (guitar) and Bill Black (bass) recorded “That’s All Right Mama” for Sun Records.


Jul 19, 1954**** Elvis’ first commercial single, Sun 209 “That’s all right”/“Blue Moon Of Kentucky” was released.


Aug 13, 1955**** BillBoard Magazine described what was becoming the norm at his concerts - A RIOT!


Nov 2, 1955**** “Mystery Train” reached #1 in the country charts!


Jan 21, 1956**** The first picture of Elvis was seen in the UK, via popular “Record Mirror”.


March, 1956**** The INTERNATIONAL PHENOMENON began. “Heartbreak Hotel” reached #1 in the US and became his first UK release on the HMV label.


August, 1956**** “Hound Dog”/“Don’t Be Cruel” became his first double “A” sided #1 hit. Both lasted for 10 weeks!


Nov 16, 1956**** His first motion-picture “Love Me Tender” was released in the US.


Dec 20,1957**** Elvis received his draft papers for the US Army.


Mar 24, 1958**** At 6.30 AM, Elvis arrived at Local Board 86 in Memphis and began his army life as private US 53310761.


Mar 5, 1960**** Elvis was discharged from the US Army.


Jan 19, 1961**** “Are You Lonesome Tonight” was released and stayed at #1 for 4 weeks.


May 1, 1967**** Elvis married Priscilla Beaulieu at the Alladin Hotel in Las Vegas.


Feb 1, 1968**** Lisa Marie Presley was born.


Jan 9, 1971**** The American Junior Chamber of Commerce presented an award to Elvis for being one of the “10 Outstanding Young Men of America”.


Oct 9, 1973**** Elvis and Priscilla were divorced.


Aug 10, 1977**** Elvis last single during his lifetime was released. “Way Down” - It reached #1 postumously.


Aug 16, 1977**** Elvis passed away at his Graceland mansion.


Some facts most people don’t know


Elvis was a black belt in karate.
Elvis sold a billion records.
When Elvis died in 1977 he had given away all of the money he had earned, mostly to charity.
In his last year Elvis did 150 concerts.
The only European country Elvis visited (except on military service) was.France.
Elvis owned a U.S. wide chain of raquetball courts - and had one at his home.
The only non-U.S. concert Elvis did was in Vancouver, Canada


“You’ll Never Walk Alone”
Play
“HIS DEATH”
Elvis passed away on August 16th,1977.


He stayed up all night on the 16th. He had entertained friends, played the piano and sang, and even played racquetball in the early morning, just before retiring around 8am.


His fiancée, Ginger Alden, was staying with him, but sleeping in a different room. She was the last person to see him alive.


By the time Ginger woke up, Elvis had probably been dead for two or three hours. She found him at 2:00pm. The medical examiner’s report says that he was found in the dressing room.


Some newspapers said that he was wearing light blue pajamas.


At 2:33, a Memphis Fire Department ambulance from Engine House 29 responded to the call, resuscitation was attempted.


Elvis was taken to the emergency room of Baptist Memorial Hospital. He was officially pronounced dead there at 3:30pm.


The announcement was made to the public at 4pm. After the announcement was made, 150 fans gathered outside the hospital waiting for whatever.


Elvis was 42 years old, which was the same age that his mother was when she passed away.


Police on the scene said that there was no indication of foul play. His family agreed to an autopsy, and it was performed at Baptist Memorial Hospital.


Dr. Jerry Francisco, the medical examiner that signed the death certificate, announced that the preliminary autopsy findings discovered cardiac arrhythmia, or an irregular and ineffective heart beat. Elvis died of natural causes, heart. He also said that, “there was no indication of any drug abuse of any kind.”


The information came out later that according to Dr. Eric Muirhead, a pathologist who helped perform the autopsy, his body contained a total of 14 drugs, including 10 times the normal dosage of codeine and toxic levels of methaqualone (ludes).


They also noted that there was, “Congestion to forehead and upper torso,” and “HCUD Colon Problem”. "That “HCUD” thing on the autopsy report is actually “H.C.V.D.” for “hypertensive cardio-vascular disease”. It notes generalized disease of the cardio-vascular system caused by the effects of years of high blood pressure. It does not mean he’s had a heart attack, but would be at risk for one, as well as a stroke.


Meanwhile, the world-wide hysteria began. Thousands of people converged on Graceland. 300 National Guardsmen were called in to maintain order.


The mayor of Memphis announced that flags on all city buildings would be flown at half-staff until the funeral.


Elvis’ body was removed from the Baptist Memorial, and taken to the Memphis Funeral Home, where he was embalmed.


He was dressed in a white suit, white tie and a blue shirt. He had on a gold TCB (Taking Care of Business) lightening bolt ring, his new favorite saying and logo. He even put it on the tail fin of his airplane.


The King was placed in a 900-pound steel-lined copper coffin, flown in from Oklahoma.


The casket was a seamless copper deposit that was flown in on a private plane because the one at the funeral home was not large enough to house Elvis.


Just before noon on the 17th, Elvis’ body was driven back to Graceland.


The first day of Elvis’ post death sightings was on the 17th, in the foyer.


Over 75,000 lined up outside the gates, in an attempt to see him, and about 30,000 did, including Caroline Kennedy and James Brown.


The official viewing in the afternoon was scheduled for two hours, but that was extended by an hour and a half.


Meanwhile, at Forest Hill Cemetery, Wilbert McGhee, a worker, prepared a crypt for the King’s interment. He opened the bronze door, removed the marble slab, and placed a black curtain over the grey marble crypt. It was 9 feet long and 27 inches wide.


On the morning of the funeral, It took 100 vans about 5 hours to remove the flowers from Graceland, to Forest Hill Cemetery, where Elvis was to be interred.


The CEO of F.T.D., Bud Lipinski, flew to Memphis to handle the flowers.


Ann Margaret, John Denver, and George Hamilton attended the funeral.


Rumor had it, that Sammy, Farrah, Burt Reynolds and the Duke were supposed to be there too,but weren’t.The services began at 2pm.


The Governor of Tennessee attended, and the services were officiated by C.W.Bradley of the Woodale Church of Christ, in Memphis.They were supposed to last for a half-hour, but lasted for 2 hours.


There was a funeral procession to take Elvis’ body to the cemetery.


His coffin was taken from the white hearse, and into the mausoleum.


There was a brief service in the chapel of the mausoleum, just inside these doors. 150 friends, family and celebrities attended it.


After a couple of short prayers and poems, his casket was wheeled to corridor Z of the mausoleum, and placed in the crypt.


One by one, family members paid their final respects.


Elvis’ dad Vernon was the last to kiss the coffin. He placed his hand on it, and had to be helped away. It all ended at exactly 4:30pm.


Elvis remained entombed at Forest Hill for two weeks. Some reports say that Vernon Presley intended for Elvis to be buried there temporarily, until burial permits could be issued for Graceland.


Other sources say there was a body-snatching attempt, and Vernon got spooked, had Elvis exhumed - to be reburied at home. Either way, it was done in secret.


Since Elvis was removed, the cemetery has maintained the crypt as a shrine, at their own expense. It is still empty, and for sale.


In May of 1999, according to the London Evening Standard, Lisa Marie Presley wants to “move her father’s body from its grave at Graceland, because she believes visitors are turning it into a freak show.”


May 2001: Elvis’ casket was flown in on a private plane, because his family wanted him to be buried in the same casket as his mother Gladys was. The Memphis funeral home simply didn’t have such a type of casket.


Only Ann Margaret, James Brown, and George Hamilton attended the funeral. No other celebritys attended.


Caroline Kennedy visited Graceland, but didn’t stay for the funeral services.


Elvis was entombed at Forrest Hill Cemetary, for no longer than 2 weeks. In fact, his remains, and those of his mother, were re-buried at Graceland October 3rd 1977.

*END

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Marco Polo
Biography of Marco Polo
By Matt Rosenberg
Aug 19 2007

In 1260, the brothers and Venetian merchants Niccolo and Matteo Polo traveled east from Europe. In 1265, they arrived at Kaifeng, the capital of Kublai Khan's (also known as the Great Khan) Mongol Empire. In 1269, the brothers returned to Europe with a request from Khan for the Pope to send one hundred missionaries to the Mongol Empire, supposedly to help convert the Mongols to Christianity. The Khan's message was ultimately relayed to the Pope but he did not send the requested missionaries.

Upon arriving in Venice, Nicolo discovered that his wife had died, leaving the care of a son, Marco (born in 1254 and thus fifteen years old), in his hands. In 1271, the two brothers and Marco began to trek eastward and in 1275 met the Great Khan.

Khan liked the youthful Marco and conscripted him into service for the Empire. Marco served in several high-level government positions, including as ambassador and as the governor of the city of Yangzhou. While the Great Khan enjoyed having the Polos as his subjects and diplomats, Khan eventually consented to allow them to leave the Empire, as long as they would escort a princess who was scheduled to wed a Persian king.

The three Polos left the Empire in 1292 with the princess, a fleet of fourteen large boats, and 600 other passengers from a port in southern China. The armada sailed through Indonesia to Sri Lanka and India and onto its final destination at the Strait of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf. Supposedly, only eighteen people survived from the original 600, including the Princess who could not wed her intended fiancee because he had died, so she married his son instead.

The three Polos returned to Venice and Marco joined the army to fight against the city-state of Genoa. He was captured in 1298 and imprisoned in Genoa. While in prison for two years, he dictated an account of his travels to a fellow prisoner named Rustichello. Shortly thereafter, The Travels of Marco Polo was published in French.

Though Polo's book exaggerates places and cultures (and some scholars believe he never went as far east as China but only described places other travelers had been to), his book was widely published, translated into many languages, and thousands of copies were printed.

Polo's book includes fanciful accounts of men with tails and cannibals seem to be around every corner. The book is somewhat a geography of Asian provinces. It is divided into chapters covering specific regions and Polo delves into the politics, agriculture, military power, economy, physical practices, burial system, and religions of each area. Polo brought the ideas of paper currency and coal to Europe. He also included second-hand reports of areas that he had not visited, such as Japan and Madagascar.
A typical passage from Travels reads:

*Concerning the Island of Nicobar *
When you leave the island of Java and the kingdom of Lambri, you sail north about one hundred and fifty miles, and then you come to two islands, one of which is called Nicobar. On this island they have no king or chief, but live like beasts. They go all naked, both men and women, and do not use the slightest covering of any kind. They are idolaters. They decorate their houses with long pieces of silk, which they hang from rods as an ornament, regarding it as we would pearls, gems, silver, or gold. The woods are filled with valuable plants and trees, including cloves, brazil, and coconuts.

**There is nothing else worth relating so we will go on to the island of Andaman... **

The influence of Marco Polo on geographic exploration was enormous and he was also a major influence on Christopher Columbus. Columbus owned a copy of Travels and made annotations in the margins.

As Polo neared death in 1324, he was asked to recant what he had written and simply said that he had not even told half of what he had witnessed. Despite the fact that many claim his book to be unreliable, it was a sort of regional geography of Asia for centuries. Even today, "his book must stand among the great records of geographic exploration."*

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The Beauty of MatheMagic

*1 x 8 + 1 = 9
12 x 8 + 2 = 98
123 x 8 + 3 = 987
1234 x 8 + 4 = 9876
12345 x 8 + 5 = 98765
123456 x 8 + 6 = 987654
1234567 x 8 + 7 = 9876543
12345678 x 8 + 8 = 98765432
123456789 x 8 + 9 = 987654321 *

*1 x 9 + 2 = 11
12 x 9 + 3 = 111
123 x 9 + 4 = 1111
1234 x 9 + 5 = 11111
12345 x 9 + 6 = 111111
123456 x 9 + 7 = 1111111
1234567 x 9 + 8 = 11111111
12345678 x 9 + 9 = 111111111
123456789 x 9 +10= 1111111111 *

*9 x 9 + 7 = 88
98 x 9 + 6 = 888
987 x 9 + 5 = 8888
9876 x 9 + 4 = 88888
98765 x 9 + 3 = 888888
987654 x 9 + 2 = 8888888
9876543 x 9 + 1 = 88888888
98765432 x 9 + 0 = 888888888 *

*Brilliant, isn't it?
And finally, take a look at this symmetry: *

*1 x 1 = 1
11 x 11 = 121
111 x 111 = 12321
1111 x 1111 = 1234321
11111 x 11111 = 123454321
111111 x 111111 = 12345654321
1111111 x 1111111 = 1234567654321
11111111 x 11111111 = 123456787654321
111111111 x 111111111=123456789 87654321 *

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INTERESTING LINK

***Frankly…I got 8 out of 16 ***
Lets see how well you do

Click on;

http://www.modestypanel.com/whatisit/

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ahhh thank god uncle arjay is BACK!

and i did 6 out of 16

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i scored 7 out of 16! interesting quiz but quite difficult :)

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**REMEMBER? **
The good old school days as; A Boy Scout or Air Scout or a Girl Guide?
I do...at the Cantt. Public School-Karachi !!


The Boy Scout movement was founded on this day in 1907 by Robert Baden-Powell. It has since grown to become the largest youth movement in the world, as certified by GWR at last year’s World Jamboree, and Scouts have a long tradition of record breaking feats, as the following list shows:


**Knot-tying - fastest six knots
**The fastest recorded time for tying the six Boy Scout Handbook Knots (square knot, sheet bend, sheep shank, clove hitch, round turn and two half hitches, and bowline) on individual ropes is 8.1seconds by Clinton R. Bailey (US) on 13 Apr 1977 at Sunset West Lounge in Pacific City, Oregon, USA.

Largest ping pong ball release
Boy Scout Troop 442 of Union, Missouri sucessfully retrieved 3,055 ping pong balls on 11 Sept 1999, which had been released from a tractor scoop and rolled half a block downhill into a wooden funnel on North Church Street, Union.

Most model rocket kits launched simultaneously
The record for most model rockets launched simultaneously is 965 by Boy Scout Troop #990 and Cub Scout Pack #990 (all USA) in Austin, Texas, USA, on 12 May 2007.

Longest line of sweets
In 24 hours between 5 to 6 Dec 1998, a total of 60 Scouts from Maryborough, Victoria, Australia, produced a continuous line of 306,250 Mintie sweets, covering a distance of 15.143km 9miles 720yds at Goldfields Leisure Nestle Centre.

Longest knotted rope chain in 5 minutes
The longest knotted rope chain made in five minutes measured 1,675 m (5,496 ft 1 in) and was completed by 325 Scouts along with their parents and leaders for an event organised by 3rd Bowmanville Scouts (Canada) at JOTA, Mosport International Race Track, Ontario, Canada on 20 October 2007.

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Very interesting quiz raju uncle, really makes you realize the beauty of God's nature. I scored 10/16, and I was actually pleasently surprised to get a couple of minerals right.

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----JUKEBOX FACTS----
The word jukebox is taken from jook, an old African-Ameican term meaning 'to dance' (amongst other things)

  • *The first public appearance of a Nickel In The Slot phonograph machine was in 1889, when Louis Glass and William S. Arnold placed a coin-operated Edison cylinder phongraph in the Palais Royale Saloon in San Francisco. *
  • *The Wurlitzer family started buying and selling musical itemsin Saxony as far back as 1659. *
  • The forst Wurlitzer jukebox was called 'the Debutante'.
  • The most popular jukebox of all time is the Wurlitzer model 1015 known colloquially 'the Bubbler'.
  • The name Rock-Ola is derived from the name of the company's founder David Rockola.
  • Seeburg's 1928 Audiophone was one of the first multi-select jukeboxes.
  • The first jukebox to play 45rpm records was M100B, made by Seeburg in 1950.
  • *When SS Queen Mary made her maiden votage from New York City in 1936, David C. Rockola delivered one of his 12-Selector Jukeboxes to her decks. The headlines read; 'The Queen Will Have MUSIC Wherever She Goes'. *
  • *By the late 1930s, Wurlitzer was producing over 45,000 jukeboxes per year. *
  • CD jukeboxes started to be manufactured in 1987.

First-ever JUKEBOX installed in Pakistan was at the Baluch Ices (Soda Shoppe) frequented by the students of St. Josephs, St. Patricks and St. Pauls near Saddar, Karachi in mid-60s. Because of its Western Music/Songs, it was very popular as the main Christian resience area was also its surrounding.

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I dont know whether its a fact or myth...BUT this letter..indeed..in insteresting!!

OPEN LETTER TO FATIMA BHUTTO

Dear Fatima:

I looked forward to your articles over much of 2007. I read you with interest. My sense of you was of a serious and sincere young woman who had sensitivity and an openness that was engaging.
Unfortunately your very personalized and somewhat vicious attack on Benazir Bhutto a couple of months ago jolted me. You came through then as a bitter, betrayed and judgmental niece and not as a columnist (in my view newspaper columns are not meant to settle personal scores). I have no doubt that you are in pain and that you do feel betrayed but by forcibly drawing me into a personal pain you insulted and trampled on my integrity as a reader.

I don’t want to be a part of the internal pain and betrayals of the Bhutto family. My concern is only at the level of what the Bhutto’s were, are and will be in the public sphere since I am in no way associated with the Bhutto’s and nor in fact with the PPP. I respected Benazir Bhutto for a lot of things (while being only too critical of her failings) but I was particularly appreciative of the fact that she didn’t air her family linen in public even under extreme provocation. Nor I understand did she indulge in personal vendettas or bear too many grudges (in some cases I think she should have!). She was either very ‘politic’ or very magnanimous. Either way I felt better that she was not publicly vicious and that she kept her personal pain and betrayals to herself. I always felt that she dealt with me as a citizen and as a woman and in that gave me respect.

Given that I believe in due process and believe that a person is innocent until proved guilty (and that not be a fixed court as in the judgment against Z.A. Bhutto) I don’t like to indulge in hearsay, suspicion, speculation, innuendo or gossip. I am sorry that you (and others) force this upon me thereby challenging my integrity and my ability to think things through. I am not suggesting that I exonerate murder (not under any circumstances), nor corruption, but I do insist that this not be based on personal ‘truths’ or personal biases etc . Death, any death ‘diminishes’ me (and all of us) and while I feel for your pain and am appalled that Murtaza, a man of such promise should have been so ruthlessly gunned down, I do think that you should refrain from misusing your ‘power’ as a columnist (and as a Bhutto) to make unsubstantiated charges. I too would like to see those who cause death punished. But logic intervenes in my own understanding of Murtaza Bhutto’s murder and I am not able to point a finger at anyone. I will come back to this ‘logic’ later, for now I would like to explore another aspect of that same article that I refer to.

As a feminist I am appalled that you are so deriding of Benazir as a woman. Your article brought to the fore how ingrained sexism is so many of us and how easily even the ‘best’ of us who can obliterate a woman’s identity even when that woman has nurtured a self definition despite all odds and often at great pains to herself. By calling Benazir ‘Mrs. Zardari’ you insulted not just her but all of us women who have tried to carve out our identities within a rampant and sinister patriarchal structure. That you should so flippantly be a part of this makes me reconsider your politics regarding women’s equality and I begin to wonder where your identity will lie should you get married (will you cease to be a Bhutto? I hope not!) I would like to point out though that a majority of women in Pakistan and elsewhere in the world do not become ‘Mrs.’ or ‘Begum’ when they get married. This is common only in urban upper and middle class circles and is a heritage of colonialism. Fatima how many village women have you come across in Larkana who are called ‘Mrs.’? I don’t think the word exists in our languages. Nor should it…Further although I would and do stay away from theological references I understand that in Islam Muslims will be ‘called upon’ by their mothers’ name. This ideological and empirical ambivalence lend themselves to much confusion on the status of the natal family and parentage in terms of identity and recognition but I do think that it supports my position that the term ‘Mrs.’ is an aberration and actually irrelevant.

Benazir was a Bhutto regardless of how you and others may want to play it. She was a Bhutto by birth but also by conviction and by commitment just as I think you will always be if you were to continue to articulate whatever it is that Bhutto stands for (regardless of whom you marry). I am also very disturbed by the present prurient debate on parentage and spousal identification or on who can wear the Bhutto name triggered off by Benazir’s children adding Bhutto to theirs. As a feminist I am delighted by this and only wish that it had been done much earlier as several children have taken on both their parents’ names even in Pakistan. I understand that Benazir was intrigued that Abida Hussain’s son is named Abid Hussain Imam (using both his parents’ names) and thought that this was apt. I think so too and think that all children should be known as the children of both or neither. I am also delighted that by claiming their mother’s name and home and with her husband changing his residence (and his burial place I understand), these Bhutto’s are declaring to the world that their legitimacy at every level derives from their association with a woman. I think that this is fantastic given that women in the main get their identities from their fathers, husbands, sons and brother or even uncles etc. This is striking a blow to one of the foundations of patriarchy and even through Zardari and his and Benazir’s children may not have intended to make such a challenge, this is still an affirmation of matrilineal and matrilocal norms and is… well…feminist. That the people of Pakistan accept this makes me further interested and supportive.

I have found that I have been affirmed by the response of the people (and particularly the members and voters of the PPP) to a woman, a young woman leading them even though Bhutto had male heirs. Much is made of her being a child of the Bhuttos and therefore gaining respectability and a legacy above all others because she was a Bhutto. I do think that it is important however not to forget that she did have brothers and Murtaza Bhutto did come back to challenge her within the party and with the people. I am aware of the argument that she ‘stole’ the legacy of the PPP and even distorted it. Perhaps she did maneuver it but she could not have been successful then or later if the party had not gone along with her or if she had not been able to get out the vote. Like most people in this country I continue to be very pained by Murtaza Bhutto’s murder and do think that this tragedy is a tragedy shared by the nation. I remember when he returned and remembered his promise but I was very disturbed by his returning to ‘claim his inheritance as a male heir’ (I don’t know if he said this but I do remember it being an argument in the public when he returned with some newspapers quoting him to this effect). I am also enraged that a father should separate his daughter from her mother at the age of three (no matter what the reasons). No law, religion or system allows for this. I appreciate that now you may not be interested in your blood mother but who knows what your stand would have been had Murtaza facilitated your getting to know her at an early age. Too many skeletons in all our closets! And I am only sorry that you, by opening up a family drama, have propelled me to open up other wounds.

I marvel though at the sophistication of the people who voted for Benazir especially when there was another PPP (several others in fact) to vote for over the last 15 years or so. I think that this is not because she had a better manifesto (I haven’t seen the manifestos of the other PPP offshoots and hers may even have been more pedantic). As I understand it and as people who voted for her explained to me over the years, they had an affinity with Benazir…she was theirs. She had suffered with them and for them. Those years that she spent fighting for her father’s life and against General Zia Ul Haq, the stories of her solitary confinements; house arrests; her courage in the face of the martial law; her resilience and her commitment at a young age (without emotional and personal support) to a cause larger than herself is writ large in the hearts of people. It is for this same reason that others who were with the PPP are no longer of much relevance except as spoilers. I have always wondered where the companions of Bhutto (the ‘uncles’), and the second line leadership were in those years. Some jumped, others were silent, still others dragged their feet, some went off in a huff, some genuinely disagreed and some turned traitor. The names can be reeled off but I would still like to ask Mumtaz Bhutto, Peerzada, Mubashir, Jatoi etc.were (as also Atizaz Ahsan) what role they played, first with Bhutto’s struggles when he was in jail and then hanged, or later with Benazir’s (I don’t recall them making too much of a noise). How much of a role did they even play in the Movement for the Restoration of Democracy? My memory may be faulty on this score but I don’t recall them putting their lives on the line. I don’t recall them suffering. Fortunately Benazir was supported by others with the same commitment as hers.

I appreciate that Murtaza and Shahnawaz Bhutto and many others were following their own form of resistance but however sincere (and I do believe in the sincerity) that adventurism led to countless deaths, prison sentences, torture, and disappearances not least perhaps the murder of Shahnawaz himself. A friend of mine spent ten years in jail tortured, often in solitary confinement, left without hope, on the grounds that the state suspected him of being a member of Al Zulfikar. He says sometimes he would get news of Bhutto’s sons, their marriages, their chidren, their time in Europe, and he would also get news of Benazir…in solitary or under house arrest. He says she spoke up for those in jail, that she sent messages or otherwise addressed them. They felt less alone with the very fact of her. This friend was released in 1989. He was still only 27 years old but defying logic, rationality, objectivity, intellectualism, he has supported Benazir since. However faded or ‘irrational’ he continued to dream.

This dream is the crux of peoples’ engagement with the Bhutto family. It is in giving voice to this dream that holds people to the PPP; it is this dream that makes for the resentment of the Bhuttos within the power structure and with the establishment (military or civil); it is this dream that makes those who support a Bhutto a threat to the status quo; and it is this dream that makes those who are the status quo insecure. So many people argue that Benazir (and for that matter Bhutto) did very little for those who supported them.

Those who had something to lose if the Bhutto’s had challenged the structures of society, say this with comfort and with glee. This is understandable. But the detractors, the middle class, urban progressives, intellectuals, academicians, ‘left’ activists and ‘left’ pretenders who add to this ‘they didn’t do anything’ refrain are to my mind either unable to understand liberal bourgeois democracy or are unable to see reform for what is it…a slow, laborious, tedious, and frustrating process that I myself am impatient with. Yet I don’t expect mainstream politicians to bring revolutions. I only expect the more progressive among them not to reverse whatever progress might have been made and to push the parameters. The Bhuttos did what I thought they could do. In any case I am not nor have ever been a member of the PPP and as a socialist and feminist always criticized and challenged the Bhutto’s from the left. I have not allowed this criticism however to negate what they did do and in some cases this would be substantial even if some of it cannot be quantified. But at the very least it was that they articulated a humanity that touched their supporters. This I salute, legacy or not. I am reminded of one of the most poignant songs that have come out of the women’s movement called Bread and Roses “…yes it is for bread we fight for but we fight for roses too…” It was the roses Fatima, the roses… perhaps it still is…(as also the bread).

In the 60 years of Pakistan a Bhutto has only been in power for about 10 and yet this name looms large both for supporters and detractors. I wonder at this especially for the latter. Why does the focus always stay on the Bhuttos (as opposed to all other politicians and even the military governments?) Why are Benazir’s all too brief terms in office still under the microscope; why are all her wrongs always in the public discourse (urban discourse in the main); why does she bring on such fury…? Further why does the murder of Murtaza figure more than the suspicion of murder of Shahnawaz? Why is there no ‘objective’ thinking through of Benazir’s involvement (or lack of) in the murder of her brother Murtaza? I have been troubled by this last since 1996 not because I think that she could not have done it (after all murders, betrayals, ambitions, kidnappings, taking children away from a parent usually a mother, etc. are fairly common in ‘royal’, feudal and patriarchal families) but I am perplexed about the whole process of such a judgment. I am for instance baffled by the fact that Leghari, Sharif and Musharaf didn’t conduct inquiries that would have proved this. Surely then they could have hanged her and/or Asif? Or at the very least could have preventing them from ever returning to Pakistan. Leghari dismissed Benazir’s government soon after Murtaza’s murder. The interim government was meant to look into her misdeeds as were the governments of Sharif and Musharaf. Why did they not convict her for this crime (or even Asif who spent time in jail for this and other charges). I have always maintained and still do that the murderers could not be exposed…perhaps because they continue to be powerful elements in the establishment.

I wonder too about populism. It can be a very creative force but it can also be dangerous. To me what is important is to understand what it is that touches people to the extent that they think that these families or individuals can determine the course of history. What do the Bhuttos, the Gandhi’s, the Perons, the Kennedys etc. have in common other than youth, tragedy and well…good looks!? What does political stardom mean? Why do people need to create larger than life characters and yet still be accessible enough to mirror the anguish of a people?

While the larger problematic of populism intrigues me it is perhaps in order for me to focus on the Bhuttos and try to understand populism in our own context. I don’t think that the Bhutto ‘legacy’ has only to do with one’s association to a family. We have only too many politicians here who are associated with a particular family and this in itself does not play out as populism. I have tried to understand this both as an activist and an academic and continue to grapple with it. But I accept it as phenomenon and only hope that those who are heirs to this populism can steer this in a manner that is in the best interests of those who place such faith in them.

You and your step mother, Ghinwa Bhutto, argue that the name Bhutto should not determine political success and nor should it give privilege. I agree but then do wonder why Ghinwa Bhutto leads her faction of the PPP as Murtaza’s widow and wonder also why she has continued to head it. Is it not her husband’s name that she exploits and is the Bhutto ‘legacy’ not being used here? And you Fatima, is the media, and political, and social circles not focusing on you only because you are a Bhutto? Surely every young Pakistani professional woman is not being interviewed by the London Times and the Guardian etc.? Or being feted and read here and abroad (not even older women who may have made significant contributions to Pakistan let alone ‘ordinary’ women get this type of celebrity status no matter how much they may deserve it)? Do you not also play the Bhutto card every time you accept or court celebrity status? Do you not already have an edge that you have not worked for and you will not continue to have this edge even if you do decide to just work ‘with the grass roots’ and continue your writing?

Actually I have no problems with this. I only have problems with your saying that you don’t. You are an ‘heir’ to the Bhutto legacy, a legacy shared by all the grandchildren of Nusrat and Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. These grandchildren would include to my mind the children of Sanam and Shahnawaz Bhutto (every one seems to have forgotten them!). I hope that all of you can reach out to each other in the interests of those who ‘need’ a Bhutto and can take this legacy and this history forward together. All of you even those of you who do not want to get directly involved at the moment, have a role to play if for no other reason than to keep the PPP together as a national multi-ethnic, multi-class trans-gender, trans-religious, liberal, progressive and I hope, secular party that reflects the interests of all the provinces and areas of Pakistan. As the family ‘elder’ your role and responsibility is perhaps more cut out since I think it is for you to reach out to all of them (including Shahnawaz’s daughter Sassi Bhutto).

I also think that all the Bhutto grandchildren should have to earn the respect and the love of the people who support them. The Bhutto myth lies to a large extent in that they worked and suffered for those who supported them...enough for them to risk their own lives…and lose. I would hate for the Bhutto ‘legacy’ to now be handed on a platter to Bilawal, to you or to any other grandchild without him or her having earned it.

Earning it is a long and potentially dangerous struggle even if you decide to work only at a local level. None of you however are ‘too young’ as is being suggested. Benazir Bhutto was about your age when she took on her monumental task and Bilawal is not much younger than her, Murtaza or Shahnawaz were when circumstances forced the Bhutto mantel onto them.

I wish you a life of commitment, energy and courage…
Sincerely
Nighat Said Khan

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The only reason why I copy-paste the appended (from the link someone sent me from States) is the fact that I met MADHURI DIXIT in London some years back and her simplicity really touched me.

CONGRATULATIONS TO MADHURI. she deserves it well...!


Bollywood diva Madhuri named for Padmi Shri
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New Delhi, Jan 25 (IANS) Bollywood actress Madhuri Dixit, who won many hearts with her million-dollar-smile and returned to the silver screen with 'Aaja Nachle' after a five-year hiatus last year, has been named among the Padma Shri awardees this year.


The ravishing actress has several hits to her credit, including 'Tezaab', 'Dil' 'Dil To Pagal Hain' and 'Devdas'.


Though her comeback film, after marriage to a US-based doctor and two kids, proved to be a dud at the box office, Madhuri remained unfazed.
'I have never been a part of number game and we are not the racing horses who should be numbered. Either the work you do is good or bad. I have come back not because I miss the media archlights or being written about... it's secondary. I missed my craft!' she was quoted as saying.


Madhuri forayed into filmdom with 'Abodh' in 1986 and was catapulted to fame with the hit dance number 'Ek Do Teen' in 'Tezaab' (1988).
There was no looking back for Madhuri who went on to give a string of hits like 'Dayavan' and 'Ram Lakhan'. She bagged the Filmfare Best Actress Award for her performance in 'Dil', in which she starred opposite Aamir Khan. She once again walked away with the coveted award for her role in 'Beta'.
Madhuri's electrifying dance number 'Choli ke peechche..' in 'Khalnayak' proved a huge hit and her fan following simply soared.


She repeated the success story in Bollywood blockbuster 'Hum Aapke Hain Koun!', where she shared screen space with Salman Khan and bagged yet another Filmfare.


Her powerful performance in mega hit 'Dil To Pagal Hai' won her a fourth best actress award.


The dancing diva also charmed renowned Indian painter M.F. Hussain, who cast her in his film 'Gaja Gamini'.


In 2001, Madhuri was awarded the National Citizens Award, which recognises excellence in various activities affecting national life. The very next year she starred in Sanjay Leela Bhansali's mega-budget 'Devdas' with Shah Rukh Khan and Aishwarya Rai. Not only did her acting earn rave reviews, she also bagged a Filmfare Award for best supporting actress.


It was after Devdas that she decided to take a break from Bollywood and devote more time to her family in the US.

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Arjay, no offence, but it seems like you're using this thread as your blog. GS does have a blogging feature which you may want to check out, which would give you a few more features not available here. Just a suggestion.

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True but then again, he might not be targetting those in Blogs (which may not be as many compared to the ones found on this (or other) forum. So I see nothing wrong with it.

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Jab baray baat kar rahein hon tho beech mein nahin bolte :emmy:

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My friend......(if there are in this world!)..........my stupid stupid and crazy crusade is to dessiminate as much possible info and interesting facts and likewise nity gritty's to members and share with them.

I don't believe in blogs etc. I am an open man with an open heart ! and would like to be a sailaani around all the threads and I dont much care to receive remarks or thoughts--good or bad!

Thank you though, for guiding.

I intend to remain quiet for sometime now....................!!!!!!!!!

Khush Rahein..........aap subb!