Indians are champion of faking Battles..

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^^ ...Guess what they have spent the last 50 odd years, chumming up to Americans and American military. ..]

This is factually incorrect. We have recently (around a decade or so only) warmed up to Americans ... Please remember that we were a socialist/non-aligned state till as late as the early 90s.

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What did the Pakistani do when the Indian soldier threw a grenade at him?

He pulled the pin and threw it right back. :p

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I was watching this CNN talk show last year and a participant, an Indian, remarked something to this effect: "Indians living abroad had the biggest inferiority complex until a few years ago. Now they have the biggest superiority complex."

Seems that warming up to the West and turning their back on socialist ideologies has paid its dividends. At least for some Indians.

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Re: Indians are champion of faking Battles..

To come to the point did Pakistan loose tanks at Longwal??? or Indians faked that too. Anyone coming up with exact number of this faked battle .

Worth watching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=the Battle of Laungewala in 1971, has just got another push. And this time it comes from a former Pakistani brigadier who himself led forces into Laungewala.

Brig (Retd) Zahir Alam Khan, in his autobiography The Way It Was — Inside the Pakistan Army, said the IAF battered Pakistani tanks at Laungewala, primarily because they were not supported by their own air force.

**Stick to facts!!! stop dreaming.**https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pagsXcoYMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=(http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/10162-indian-army-faked-battle-laungewalla-3.html)

IAF won Laungewala: Pak brigadier

New Delhi, March 24, 2008

The view that it was the Indian Air Force, and not the army, that won India

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Re: Indians are champion of faking Battles..

Looks like it is becoming a habit to see only one face of the coin. Now what do the thread starter maintaining double standards ,who at their convenience rubbish the Indian media then when they feel quote it again have failed to inform the forum of the outcome of the writeup:

War hero files defamation suitPublished:

NEW DELHI: Controversy over the authenticity of the famous battle of Longewala in India’s western sector in 1971 refuses to die down. The war hero credited with the splendid victory at that time has gone to court saying people were trying to tarnish his image.
Brig (retd) Kuldip Singh Chandpuri, who has filed a defamation suit of Re1 against Air Marshal (retd) M S Bawa and Maj Gen (retd) Atma Singh, says “the two of them were not there” while he was fighting the war.
“My only ground for filing the suit is that I was there fighting the war and the two of them were not there. I do not want their money - that is why I have demanded Re1 as compensation. I just want justice,” Chandpuri said in Chandigarh.
A local court issued a notice to the defendants on July 19. “Bawa made scandalous and malicious statements, tarnishing the image of not only the plaintiff but also the entire Alpha Company,” Chandpuri said in the petition.
The Longewala battle was fought in the western sector - in Rajasthan - during the India-Pakistan war in 1971.
Chandpuri, at that time a major who was leading just 100 men, had frustrated a formidable attack by a Pakistani brigade (some 2,800 troops) backed by an armoured regiment of 45 tanks. Chandpuri was given the Maha Vir Chakra. His company 23 Punjab won six gallantry awards.
However, a controversy was sparked off in February this year after Maj Gen Atma Singh, who won the Vir Chakra at Longewala, alleged that no ground battle was fought and the army had merely rehearsed it on a sand model after the ceasefire to cover up the incompetence of senior military commanders.
He also claimed that it was the Indian Air Force (IAF) that actually crushed the enemy forces.
Air Marshal Bawa, who was commanding the Jaisalmer base from where IAF Hunter fighter aircraft operated in the battle, also contested the army’s claim and reportedly said: “The services were the only organisation with some credibility. The army has turned that apart by faking the entire operation.”
According to army records, Chandpuri and his men - equipped with recoilless guns, medium machine guns, 81mm mortars and small arms - had engaged enemy armour at the post of Longewala in Rajasthan on the intervening night of December 4 and December 5, 1971.
The battle is part of the curriculum taught to senior officers in the higher command course at the Army War College and has been immortalised by the Bollywood super-hit film ‘Border’.
Taking note of this, Chandpuri said in his petition: “For over two decades, from 1971 to 1997 (when the film ‘Border’ was released), no controversy was ever raised on the battle by anyone…Perhaps the limelight given to me created heartburn with the defendant (Air Marshal Bawa).
“In order to give vent to this heartburn, he in the year 1997 made malicious and scandalous statements against me and the Alpha Company, doubting the factual status regarding the battle.”
According to the petition, Bawa and Singh repeated their “malicious and scandalous remarks” against Chandpuri and Alpha Company regarding the battle in February following the commemoration given to Chandpuri by Defence Minister A K Antony. – IANS

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Indian and pakistan both poor countries, both have same mind set to show fake aciements to its public to gather fake sympathies. Reality is, that world has changed around us, India wanted a role of a mini super power and unfortunatley unable to achieve this. Now, to compensate thier embarasment Indians have adopted a two prong strategy. First, Indians are historicaly afraid of "NORTH" this is where Paksitan lies. India donot want to capture Pakistan but would alwyas wanted to see a weak Pakistan. unfortunately the post 9-11 regional scenario gave Indians a chance to enter Afghanistan and turn Afghans against pakistanis. so far it seems "very productive" for Indian media, but in reality it has become fully counter productive for Indians. During the Soviet occupation millions of Afghans lived inPakistan with freedom. After the fall of talibans, what did the Afghans do? turned the tide against Pakistan. One would wished that the Pakis let them rot in Afghanistan abd let the Soviets teach them how to be a "Good Communist'. My point here is that Afghans are not sincere with Pakistanis, how could they be in bed with Indians. Reality is that Americans and ita coalition partners with all the military might were unable to control Afghansitan, look at the US econmy, can India sustain if its economy suffers like the US, No way Jose; Indians have now got deeper in a mess they had anticipated.
Moral of the story; no war both countried should help its poor people, clean drinking water, roads, medical etc.

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These all are old issues.India,Israeel and USA are doing new game since years.They are producing,Financing,preparing and helping extreemest Muslims in different ways.Some time they ask their close Muslim countries to help these extremests and after using them for some time for their own purposes they left them alone and naturely they go against them.These all groups and organisations are not representative of Muslims.They have never won election in any muslim country and there is no government of them among more than 50 muslim countries.They are anti Islam but India and allies are fighting this battle now like ever a fake battle.They want to show the world that Muslims are terrorists which is totally false but they have powerfull media.Be aware of their agents in any shape.Remeber or learn about Abdullah Ibne Sabah.

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