Indian State Elections

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I don't deny that may certainly be a factor in the BJP elevation, but that certainly is'nt an excuse for the phenomenon in India, a country with well over 100 million muslims.
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India has approx 18% moslem population.
And 80% hindu population. 2% x-tians and rest...

Initially congress had used 18% moslems as its votebank...by appleasing them over a lot of issues, like change of national anthem to accomodate moslem feelings, Haj subsidies, and shariat personal law..etc...
and that was making 80% population leftout and ignored....BJP took this oppurtunity to woo hindus to answer to cong wooing moslems...That worked in their favour. If you call it Hindu fundamentalism...be it...To us, its plainand simple politics in Multi-ethnic democracy.
Even now, in west bengal, the commie vote bank are moslem immigrants from bangladesh.

Valid point. The rise of hindu fundamentalism could not have been possible if Islamic fundamentalism had not risen so sharply. However we cannot afford another Godhra or Gujrat!

Anyway, I am happy that the BJP won for 2 reasons - it kept Sonia out, and the BJP has gone in for economic reforms that the congress never had the balls to implement. If it sticks to it’s reform plan there will be almost total privatization and little trade restrictions. :k:

India’s elections - who will learn the lessons?


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we cannot afford another Godhra or Gujrat!

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Don't worry, after Gujrat there has not been, and never will be another Godhra.

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Anyway, I am happy that the BJP won for 2 reasons -
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Of course number 3 was just a bonus. Hindu fundamentalism is the reaction to extreme poverty and lack of education and not reciprocative.

Government sanctioned mob rule and mass murder is somewhat different from a movement against oppression. Hindus should feel nothing but shame.

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people cant eat religen . no amount of relgen can be turned in to cash
crops.
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No, but in the cases of Ayodhya and Gujrat to name a couple it has been used by Hinduvta fanatics to launch pogroms against the Muslim minority, as well launch a campaign of perseuction and harrasment against Christians in parts of India.

Congratulations! So many countries cannot even dream of elections while we in India take them for granted. Not bad.

^ truly grateful for that! :)

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Congratulations! So many countries cannot even dream of elections while we in India take them for granted. Not bad.
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Yes Nazi Germany had elections, and Hitler got elected. The same has happened in Gujrat, and seems to be happening all over the "Hindi belt" of India, if not in all India.

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Yes Nazi Germany had elections, and Hitler got elected. The same has happened in Gujrat, and seems to be happening all over the "Hindi belt" of India, if not in all India.
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so you are going to start world war 3 to get rid of hitler

No the sane people of secular state of india should rise up and not let the goons govern them :p

Do you have any intention of getting your facts right and understanding why the election went the BJP way or will you just give your half assed arbid comments till time immemorial?

http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/dec05/i1.asp

Saffron wave sweeps BJP to power in 3 states

DH News Service NEW DELHI, Dec 4

In fiercely contested assembly elections, the BJP on Thursday dealt a stunning blow to the Congress as it snatched three states from the ruling party — Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Chattisgarh. The party, however, could not dislodge the incumbent Congress government in Delhi.

Landslide victory
The BJP exceeded all expectations in the Hindi heartland — even Prime Minister A B Vajpayee said he did not expect his party to do so well — and won a landslide victory in Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan and stormed to power in Chattisgarh as it rode on an anti-incumbency wave against the Congress-ruled governments.
However, the BJP could not stop the Congress in Delhi where Chief Minister Sheila Dik**** ensured a second successive term for the party.

In the elections which were mainly fought on the issue of development and good governance — the Hindutva or mandir cards were hardly displayed — the BJP dealt a shock to the Congress in Madhya Pradesh by winning as many as 172 seats in a House of 230 leaving the Congress only 39 seats. It was a state in which the Congress was in power for the last 10 years and BJP’s Uma Bharti will become the first woman chief minister. She would also be the first backward class leader to assume power in the state. Rajasthan was the other state where all pollsters went wrong as the BJP cashed in on different caste combinations and a deftly managed poll strategy to romp home with an impressive margin. For the first time in the state, the BJP crossed the 100 mark in a House of 200 and secured 120 seats with the Congress getting 56.

The extent of the BJP victory could be gauged from the fact that the Congress had won 152 seats in the 1998 assembly polls. Like MP, Rajasthan too will have a woman chief minister in Vasundhara Raje for the first time. The saffron sweep was so complete in Rajasthan that many stalwarts, including two deputy chief ministers, bit the dust.

Surprise in Chattisgarh
Chattisgarh provided the third surprise for the BJP as it succeeded in reaching a majority in the controversy-ridden elections. In a state where exit polls had shown a hung assembly, the BJP returned with 50 seats while the Congress won 36, in a House of 90. The state witnessed an eventful election campaign – the highlight was BJP’s chief ministerial candidate and Union minister Dilip Singh Judeo being allegedly caught on camera accepting bribe. However, it had no impact on the BJP romping home.

While there is still no certainty as to who the new chief minister will be, the choice is said to have boiled down to state BJP president Raman Singh and Union minister Ramesh Bias. Mr Judeo has said he was not a contender for chief ministership.

Development card
As for Delhi, the national capital seemed to be the only state where the predictions actually came true. Playing the development card, the suave Ms Dik**** won the ballot for the second time in a row, forcing the BJP to seriously think whether it was proper to put in the same old faces as chief ministerial candidates. Here, the Congress won 47 seats as against the BJP’s 20 in a total House strength of 70.

With the BJP doing extremely well, there was speculation on the party seeking an advanced Lok Sabha poll. However, it was quickly dismissed by Deputy Prime Minister L K Advani and party president Venkaiah Naidu. “Elections will be held on schedule in September next year. There is no question of an early poll,” Mr Naidu said.

Or do you think that all newspapers and all analysis is wrong and only your ill informed comments are enough…

he wont buddy leave him aside n carry on with ur discussion. they can never answer direct questions bcoz they cannot even imagine to have intellect.

^ why do you guys even bother to present arguments when you know what malik's and ak47's agenda is? They would love it if a few more gujrats happened.

Long live democracy, long live the democratic process, long live India!

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^ why do you guys even bother to present arguments when you know what malik's and ak47's agenda is? They would love it if a few more gujrats happened.

Long live democracy, long live the democratic process, long live India!
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i agree they thrive on bad news.

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No the sane people of secular state of india should rise up and not let the goons govern them :p
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But they have elected those goons i.e. Modi and Advani to govern them time and time again, with even bigger majorities. You know before these elections you had some Indian's predicting that the BJP-RSS were not going to win the elections, and were losing support etc. Now these same people don't know quite what to say.

bjp should put more muslim and dalit contestant in elctions to
relfect the country that is only way to remove the fears of minorities.

Vajpayee has emerged stronger and confident in recent times particularly after the Nagpur conclave. He has shown that he has neither any peer nor any challenger who could question his wisdom or authority over the functioning of the NDA government. It was he who lobbied for Bangaru Laxman, a dalit, to be elected president of the party and it was the first time when the president of the party spelled new policies for the party distancing it from the old tradition of toeing the line of RSS.

Bangaru Laxman, speaking at the Nagpur convention said that ‘the BJP’s inability to secure Muslim votes was one of the chief reasons for less than expected performance of the BJP in the last Lok Sabha polls held in 1999.’ He further said, ‘Muslims had certain misgivings about the BJP, which had to be removed for mutual benefit. We have not made sustained efforts to reach out to Indian Muslims. We have somehow taken it for granted that our party will never receive any significant support from them.’

mallik congress recieved more votes 28% and bjp 23%

http://www.electionworld.org/india.htm

^ rvizk, how did the BJP's coalition partners do?

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But they have elected those goons i.e. Modi and Advani to govern them time and time again, with even bigger majorities. You know before these elections you had some Indian's predicting that the BJP-RSS were not going to win the elections, and were losing support etc. Now these same people don't know quite what to say.
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Now now they have been saying many things, but the question is, do you care to read them?