So Gujrat and Modi were not just a one off...
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
So Gujrat and Modi were not just a one off...
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So what?. We are a democracy. People vote and elect leaders of their choice. Who are you you tell us whther we can elect Modi or not?.
Jiye Hind
Jiye BJP
Jiye Vapjpayee and his team of patriotic Indians.
Mallik,
Bjp can come to power in india. The fact is none of the democracies in the world can keep religion out of politics....and certainly none in subcontinent.
Initially in Indian politics it was woeing of minority [moslem community] that used to decide the fate of the party during election...now its majority community that decides, so be it.
Thats democracy. The rule of the ppl.
Nazi Germany was a deomcracy too. You would actually brag about that?
Quite an example of a Mobocracy rather than a democracy.
So Modi engineers the the murder of thousands and the popularity of his party skyrockets.
A recipe for success in India, preatty sick in my opinion.
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Nazi Germany was a deomcracy too. You would actually brag about that?
Quite an example of a Mobocracy rather than a democracy.
So Modi engineers the the murder of thousands and the popularity of his party skyrockets.
A recipe for success in India, preatty sick in my opinion.
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because of economy bjp won not religen. ultimatley economy tied
to domestic peace and peace between various groups.
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*Originally posted by elahi: *
Nazi Germany was a deomcracy too. You would actually brag about that?
Quite an example of a Mobocracy rather than a democracy.
So Modi engineers the the murder of thousands and the popularity of his party skyrockets.
A recipe for success in India, preatty sick in my opinion.
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Spot on. The huge success of the BJP-RSS throughout the "Hindi heartland" of India proves that the politics of incitment and genocide carried out by India's ruling BJP-RSS government is winning millions of votes. That is was very much the situation in 1930's Germany, that led to the election of Hitler, and the holocaust...
Stick to the topic of this thread.
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Spot on. The huge success of the BJP-RSS throughout the "Hindi heartland" of India proves that the politics of incitment and genocide carried out by India's ruling BJP-RSS government is winning millions of votes. That is was very much the situation in 1930's Germany, that led to the election of Hitler, and the holocaust...
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Very sad analysis by Pakistani guppies - but this was expected. IMO very very few ( and I mean only a tiny fraction, less than .5%) people vote on the grounds of religion. Rest is your pipe dream of India going the Germany way or getting divided on religious lines. Keep on dreaming.
so every voter is relgiously biased dont care about economy?
India’s finance ministry on Friday relaunched a multi-million dollar publicity campaign to promote economic reforms which had been suspended by India’s Election Commission in the run-up to this week’s assembly polls.
Although the BJP is an unapologetically Hindu nationalist party, it fought the election campaign on the slogan of “Bijli, Sadak, Pani” - “electricity, roads and water”.
To all the Guppies who insist on giving their own biased version of why the BJP won, I would suggest they do their homework more carefully or else at least think before they shoot accusations all over.
The ground realities are very simple . .. The Congress Govts F U C K E D up. Take Digvijay in MP, he had 8 years to do something. He not only ignored development issues but also had the nerve to go around claiming that he was succesful in providing development.
The congress too tried the Hindutva card, yet they lost, so this shows that the elections were decided on who the people perceived would be better for the development for the state.
Personally I am totally against the Modi formula and this election has been good news. Just when it looked like the only way for a party to win the elections was to go teh communal way, the electorate proved that the economy and development were the right planks to fight elections.
The congress deserved to lose..they have done nothing for the people other than tall promises. Where the Congress was perceived to be efficient, ie Delhi, they retained their position.
I used to be a Congress supporter, but after seing their myopic view of Indian politics, and keeping in mind that I still dont agree enough with the saffron brigade, I have decided not to vote.
Thats just the point, the BJP will win using development as a poll issue simply because the Congress is a bunch of Myopic Sychopants, and the unless they soon come out with a new PM candidate, they are going to be decimated.
The issue around Sonia's nationality, at least to me, is more than the fact that Sonia was not born Indian, is that she is seen as a political opportunist, who jumped into politics to save the family name (read bofors) and not for any other reason. Moreover, I think its time the Gandhi Nehru clan stepped aside, until such time Priyanka, Rahul or Varun rises up through the ranks.
I would like to qoute the example of Omar Abdullah, who tried the MY Daddy is important so vote for me line and got drubbed. ow if he does win an election, it would be because he would have learnt his lesson....
The scary part is that the Congress doesnt look it can rise above its petty politics and give the BJP a serious challenge, except in a few states ilke Karnataka, and thats because in Karnataka the economy is doing well here, unemployment is low, and the Congress happened to be at the government.
So all you BJP haters, it looks like you are going to be in business for a long time to come......
It seems the Hindi speaking belt has accepted the argument that Sonia shouldn't become PM, despite the BJP's apparent decline..I gues sit' a case of voting BJP "not for love of the BJP, but for the dislike of Sonia"
Anyway State trends aren't neccessarily indicative of National ones.
Yeah kinda, you are right....but its not restricted to hindi belt ...its the same feeling all over india....
To put it mildly, its TINA factor, that is getting BJP more votes...
TINA [There Is No Alternative]
i donno y u guys have a fix with BJP.what does it mean to u people whether BJP wins bcoz of TINA factor or anyother F factor. the truth is that it has won n that there is no denying the fact. it is indeed a welcome departure from the ageold decaying clutches of the GOP. the congress has not been able to come out of its dynasty mind set n unable to find a viable second rung leadership who came boost the morale of the grass roots. all the power is concentrated at sonias hands. by contrast BJP has many a regional leaders n they activley participate in decision making. v heard from the congress camp that sonia will decide the CM of delhi even after the congress won by projecting sheila deeksit as the CM candidate.
this sense of marginalisation is what is leading to routing of congress in the elections n this is going to continue for atleast till the congress realises the fallacy of its policies.
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so every voter is relgiously biased dont care about economy?
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I think most Indian voters know exactly what the BJP-RSS stands for, after what they did at Ayodhya, Gujrat and other places, and that is why they first won hundreds of millions of votes, and will continue to do so.
But only a few weeks ago you were predicting how the BJP-RSS was losing support, with the fact that they controlled so few states. I guess your prediction was wrong yet again...
People don;t cfare if it is the BJP Cong or KPMG…the economy is booming, the lives of the peoloe is improving, you go with those who make changes happen for the better.
And it is no use to get into what a coalition gov’t means lecture…they won;t get it.. 
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I think most Indian voters know exactly what the BJP-RSS stands for, after what they did at Ayodhya, Gujrat and other places, and that is why they first won hundreds of millions of votes, and will continue to do so.
But only a few weeks ago you were predicting how the BJP-RSS was losing support, with the fact that they controlled so few states. I guess your prediction was wrong yet again...
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people cant eat religen . no amount of relgen can be turned in to cash
crops.
True rvikz, however religion is really delicious when winning votes.
You guys can delude yourself all you want, but popularity of BJP and associated groups(RSS and Shiv Sena) is obviously connected to the rise in hindu fundamentalism in India. Perhaps if Modi had been re-elected strictly on a economic platform, I could agree with you. But during the campaign he singled out muslims for abuse. After his part in the riots, his relelction and now with talk that he could some day be a future PM - it is obvious that his popularity is not strictly connected to his economic policies.
The rise of Hindu fundamentalism is connected with rise of Moslem fundamentalism in the sub-continent and globally.
Look at Europe, Elections are now fought on anti-moslem platform. Mody isn't a lone crusader.
I don't deny that may certainly be a factor in the BJP elevation, but that certainly is'nt an excuse for the phenomenon in India, a country with well over 100 million muslims. The election of anti-muslim parties in Europe is qualified with two facts. Firstly, these parties are anti-immigrant just as much as they are anti-muslims (making them by defnition anti-hindu as well). Secondly, none of these parties have ever advocated violence towards muslims (or other immigrants) as a solution to the nations problems. The BJP has not only condoned this violence, but has participated in it.