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Hmmmmmmmmm!!!!!
According to the news on TV today the crisis is very much alive and England players are refusing to sign the agreement.
I dont know whether the crisis have been resolved or whether the times of India has jumped the gun.
Probably the situation will become clearer later on.
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ICC has backed out from Contract issue of WC'03. Champions trophy is still on.But Ithink they gave a good room for negotiation.
ICC will retain contract clause despite row - Speed
Reuters - 21 August 2002
The International Cricket Council will retain its "ambush marketing" provisions for ICC events for next month's Champions Trophy despite a looming boycott threat by leading players, a senior official said on Wednesday.
ICC chief executive Malcolm Speed said the controversial contract drawn up for its events would also remain in place for next year's World Cup in South Africa.
"Any player who signs for the Champions Trophy is bound to play... under those terms," Speed told reporters in Bombay during his trip to India on commercial ICC business.
Top cricketers from many countries led by India have refused to sign the ICC contract barring them from endorsing products of rival companies 30 days either side of a tournament, to protect official sponsors.
Speed said despite opposition by the players, the ICC would not allow any company to cash in on its events secured by other sponsors paying huge sums of money.
"For each event there is a separate agreement. (But) they are substantially the same," he said, adding: "At this stage that (ambush marketing) clause will be included in the World Cup terms.
Speed said although the ICC could carry out a future review of its contract, there were unlikely to be major alterations.
"There may be some minor changes. As we go through each event we will learn from the experience of running that event. We'll have feedback from players.
"But it'll substantially be the same because, having entered into the agreement for $550 million (until 2007), having guaranteed the sponsors they will have exclusive rights, there is not much room to move."
The Indian board has said it would send an under-strength squad to Sri Lanka if its top players did not sign up, although national boards are obliged to field their best sides in ICC tournaments.
Speed said: "BCCI (Board of Control for Cricket in India) has said it will not name players who don't agree to sign the contract. If that happens, it becomes a matter for the ICC executive committee."
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ICC has backed out from Contract issue of WC'03. Champions trophy is still on.But Ithink they gave a good room for negotiation.
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*ICC chief executive Malcolm Speed said the controversial contract drawn up for its events would also remain in place for next year's World Cup in South Africa. *
How about getting in Jedejia and Azher ? 
I still miss the blasters of Jadejia and brilliance of Azher.
Robin Singh set to lead alternative team
By Tapan Joshi
Mumbai, August 22, 2002
India discards like Javagal Srinath, Venkatesh Prasad, Deep Dasgupta and MSK Prasad have all found a place in the 25-strong probables list compiled by the national selectors for next month’s ICC Champions Trophy in Sri Lanka.
As many as 17 India discards have a chance to resurrect their career if the Indian squad currently doing battle in England sticks to its guns and doesn’t sign the ICC players contracts.
A selector on the condition of anonymity gave the list to CricketNext.com. It includes Javagal Srinath, Venkatesh Prasad, Debashish Mohanty, Murali Karthik, Sairaj Bahutule, Sarandeep Singh, Reetinder Singh Sodhi, MSK Prasad, Deep Dasgupta, Hemang Badani, Hrishikesh Kanitkar, Sadagoppan Ramesh, Gautam Gambhir, Gagan Khoda, Daniel Manohar, Connor Williams, Irfan Pathan Jr., Rakesh Patel, L Balaji, Ramesh Powar, Rohan Gavaskar, Robin Singh, Jai Prakash Yadav, Vijay Bharadwaj, Jacob Martin.
There are some players whose careers were buried have suddenly been resurrected like Robin Singh, Dasgupta, Prasad, Bahutule, Bharadwaj, Martin, while cricketers like Rohan Gavaskar, son of legendary Sunil Gavaskar, Irfan Pathan Jr., the Baroda paceman, Rakesh Patel, Mumbai all-rounder Ramesh Powar and Laxmipati Balaji get a chance to wear the India cap by default.
Veteran all-rounder Robin Singh is tipped to lead the side.
::: Tapan Joshi :::
Source : cricketnext.com
It can't get any worse than this for India.
This is something really stupid by both sides.
India have to respect ICC and give into their demands.
I think the interest of country should come before money.
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It can't get any worse than this for India.
This is something really stupid by both sides.
India have to respect ICC and give into their demands.
I think the interest of country should come before money.
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This is best thing that could happen to cricket.ICC needs to know what iyt can sell when it cant.ICC sold something to the sponsor which it didnt own. This is personal affair of cricketter to endrose an product or not.
What next? ICC will decide who will marry whome?
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It can't get any worse than this for India.
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What is so worse for India and not for other countries ??
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This is something really stupid by both sides.India have to respect ICC and give into their demands.
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You are talking as if this problem is only between indian players and ICC. Man how ignorant one can be ?? Players from WI,Pak,SA,Aus,Eng,Ind have not signed the contract yet. Others who have signed it aren't happy either.
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I think the interest of country should come before money.
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Oh yeah - If all the players accept all the bull headed demands of ICC - they are very good and patriot - otherwise they are not.
ICC is such a loser organization - It has done nothing to promote cricket in last 50 years. Hasn't solved a single problem. It believes in LATKAO every issue and create new problems every now and then.
Please don’t include others in your miseries.
Players from other countries may not agree with ICC but they have no problem signing contracts.
“We’re very pleased to have been able to come up with a solution that sees Australia sending its best team to the ICC Champions Trophy,”](http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2002/AUG/051587_REUTERS_22AUG2002.html)
Leave Pakistanis and others out of this.
Once again Indian players started this mess and they are going to clean it for themselves this time.
Xpress before posting ur views check whether this is a political section or a sports section. If u want to crticise some players since they are indian then go ahead …if ur a ignorant cricket fan who loves to say any thing paki is good and anything indian is bad … and otherwise just try to understand what this whole mess is all about
Well, personally I believe its a storm in a tea-cup. Uptil now, players have made pot-loads of money from sponsors by displaying the logos while playing in tournaments organized by ICC and other organizations. Now ICC wants to join in the action and make some money for itself too.
I agree to the point, made by someone, that ICC sold something it never owned in the first place and is now bullying all state boards to agree to this.
The broader issue is that ICC needs funds to popularize the game all over the world, and by allowing players to sport competing logos will mean less revenue for ICC. I can understand their frustration. The move should be transitioned in a more practical way by giving players time to negotiate their own sponsorship agreements in a better way.
That way, for example, Tendulkar can continue to appear in the ads for Pepsi all the time, but during an ICC organized tournament, he can only wear the logo of Coca Cola. (Just an example). So, that way, when Tendulkar signs a contract with Pepsi, he will include the clause that for ICC tournaments, Tendulkar will not sport Pepsi logo on his kit. Something along that lines would not cause such an uproar and gives everyone time to make alternative plans.
The way, this has been forced down the throats of boards and players is highly unprofessional. Or maybe some of these national boards, just sat on this issue and never properly advised their players, in advance.
For what its worth, I would suggest, the players to concentrate on their game, atleast for this prestiguous tournament. Especially Indian players should not be towing the line of people like Ravi Shastri, and should allow the cricket board to send their best players there. It should be an honor to play for your country and represent your nation, and this should not be sacrificed for some lucrative sponsorship deal.
One more chance of Pakistan vs India is fading away.
What did we do this time.
I think the ICC works for ISI. 
Well, To meet India Pakistan has to get through Sri Lanka !!!
Lets see what happens.
Till then have patience!!! And dont jump too much otherwise Moroco wala haal hoga phir.
Or Srilanka ka bhi Sharjah wala haal hoga.
Which is 10 times worst than how Pakistan were defeated in Morocco.
Pakistan lost 3 close matches with less than 50 runs to win.
But Pakistan won by 247 runs odd!
Do the math or you will get it right.
Its not like India even had a chance to win in the first round against England or Zimbabwe.
2 very good one day teams.
Sighzzz... oh well, I guess I have to wait till March 1st. :(
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Or Srilanka ka bhi Sharjah wala haal hoga.
Which is 10 times worst than how Pakistan were defeated in Morocco.
Pakistan lost 3 close matches with less than 50 runs to win.
But Pakistan won by 247 runs odd!
Do the math or you will get it right.
Its not like India even had a chance to win in the first round against England or Zimbabwe.
2 very good one day teams.
Sighzzz... oh well, I guess I have to wait till March 1st. :(
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Wait for 3 more weeks and we will see who does maths.
Well, definitly India doesnt have chance to win the group if its 3rd eleven from India lead by Robin Singh.
if india lose they will be saying oh well it wasn't our orginal team and if they win ;) they will be juming off the clif :)
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if india lose they will be saying oh well it wasn't our orginal team and if they win ;) they will be juming off the clif :)
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Obviously !!!!!!
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..if they win ;) they will be juming off the clif :)
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No such luck :)
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No such luck :)
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yep..that is what I said in my messages.No expectation from 3rd Eleven from India.If they do good fine if they dont ,hardly matters.I am being relaistic and moreover Indians dont have habit of jumping out of pant before any tournament.
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yep..that is what I said in my messages.No expectation from 3rd Eleven from India.If they do good fine if they dont ,hardly matters.I am being relaistic and moreover Indians dont have habit of jumping out of pant before any tournament.
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or may be pants are too tight to jump out ;)
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yep..that is what I said in my messages.No expectation from 3rd Eleven from India.If they do good fine if they dont ,hardly matters.I am being relaistic and moreover **Indians dont have habit of jumping out of pant before any tournament. *
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I guess thats because they don't trust their team cuz they never know if their team is going to win or not ;)