Indian Dislike

[deedawar]

Re: Indian Dislike

@retroguy02

there r other reasons ppl hate indians. first its the south asian obsession with fair skin - particularly in bollywood, and pakis have (on avg) fairer skin than indians and perhaps that's why they think they r superior or something, although that's bullisht in my opinion. another thing i've increasingly noticed on tv is that indian households tend to be more violent with the women than paki households - i'm not saying it doesn't happen in pakistan, but it definitely isn't that exposed as it is in india. another thing that pisses off most pakis is that indians get far more international coverage than pakistan and i have to admit the truth that generally india is progressing at a much faster rate than pakistan, and i guess that gets some ppl jealous or something.

While you might think south Indians obcession for Pakistanis (not just Pakis) due to their fair skin, its beacause of their fair and respectful attitude for women of any race.

Indian supposedly 'progressed' for one reason (in my opinion they actually regressed). It has no clear definition of its values and regards for its population. The country's population is still conservative but its movies and media tries to fool the world that its a "modern" country which allows women to mary non-hindu men or USA their greatest friend in as shown in indisan movies with USA flag in background but if Richard Gere kisses an Indain girl/woman the reality shows off..........................

[ssingh]

Re: Indian Dislike

@deedawar

1-Indians are very biased in my observation.

even indians will also say that about pakistanis

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2-Indians do not go to Pakistani shops or resturants in western countries but Pakistani do not care and shop on Indian shops or eat at indian resturants.
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One of the reasons could be indian restaurants are there in large numbers. So any indian who goes there and finds more local cuisine in those restaurants, then he will go to there only. It has got nothing to do with hate. Moreover,it is south indians who form a substantial chunk of those indians. South indian tastes and cuisine are bit different than north, so they go there only. Besides, if beef or for that matter even non-veg is also served in pakistani restaurants, then forget it.

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3-Indians never go to Pakistani shows to support Pakistani actors and singers but Pakistani do the opposite.
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your adnan sami, jal, or who all came to india, made lot of money and name also.

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4-Pakisani buy Indian products (Achaar, condiments, flour etc.) but Indians never buy Pakistani product.
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again they are not in large numbers. Above explanation holds good here also.

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5-Indians come in flocks and herds on Pakistani forum to spread their biased views but Pakistani do not care or do the opposite.

6-It appears that Indians spend more time on Pakistani forum than Indian forums and Pakistani do not do the reciprocal act.
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who told pakistanis dont come?...they do. though small in number. Indias population is 7-8 times that of pakistan. if you find one pakistani in indian forum, then you will find 7-8 indians in pakistani forum. Even perhaps indian run websites, far outnumber again. Given by less number of pakistanis and more number of indian websites, presence of pakistanis in those forums would get diluted further.

Besides, i do agree that some indians might be biased against pakistanis due to various reasons. and i have been to a paki restaurant only once. Rest all other times i have been to indian restaurants only. not because i hate or anything, it is just like that.

[ssingh]

Re: Indian Dislike

@deedawar

Indian supposedly 'progressed' for one reason (in my opinion they actually regressed). It has no clear definition of its values and regards for its population. The country's population is still conservative but its movies and media tries to fool the world that its a "modern" country which allows women to mary non-hindu men or USA their greatest friend in as shown in indisan movies with USA flag in background but if Richard Gere kisses an Indain girl/woman the reality shows off..........................

this has nothing to do with topic :D ........nobody is talking about indias progress or regression. It is these kind of negative portrayal will prompt indians to come here even if they are true. No matter how indians portray about their country, it shouldn't matter to you guys.:D

[ssingh]

Re: Indian Dislike

@deedawar

I agree. Indians are biased against Pakistani but Pakistani still try to find common ground.

More needs to be done by Indians to show if and how they are NOT biased and prejudiced against Pakistanis.

i want you to list me those comman grounds.

[deedawar]

Re: Indian Dislike

@ssingh

even indians will also say that about pakistanis

One of the reasons could be indian restaurants are there in large numbers. So any indian who goes there and finds more local cuisine in those restaurants, then he will go to there only. It has got nothing to do with hate. Moreover,it is south indians who form a substantial chunk of those indians. South indian tastes and cuisine are bit different than north, so they go there only. Besides, if beef or for that matter even non-veg is also served in pakistani restaurants, then forget it.

your adnan sami, jal, or who all came to india, made lot of money and name also.

again they are not in large numbers. Above explanation holds good here also.

who told pakistanis dont come?...they do. though small in number. Indias population is 7-8 times that of pakistan. if you find one pakistani in indian forum, then you will find 7-8 indians in pakistani forum. Even perhaps indian run websites, far outnumber again. Given by less number of pakistanis and more number of indian websites, presence of pakistanis in those forums would get diluted further.

Besides, i do agree that some indians might be biased against pakistanis due to various reasons. and i have been to a paki restaurant only once. Rest all other times i have been to indian restaurants only. not because i hate or anything, it is just like that.

I do not agree with your post my friend.

Indians are biased and prejudiced against Pakistanis by not buying tickets to very same singers like Ghulam Ali they do love and cherish if the program is not arranged by an Indian promoter.

Pakistani are not bisaed but Indians are. They do attend Indian programs.

Indian movies from very beginning showed Pakistan and Pakistani as 'bad' people. They showed people including Zeba Bakhtiar as good person who sided/helped Indians in the movie.

[deedawar]

Re: Indian Dislike

@ssingh

i want you to list me those comman grounds.

Language
Food
Clothings
Ceremonies
lifestyle etc.

Now .........let me ask you...

why did you ask me the question?

Did you not know the answer yourself?...........

I still say, Indians are prejudices and biased against Pakistani people.

If they are in higher position outside India, they would not try to hire Pakistani people but Pakistani people do hire non-indians or Indians alike.

[ssingh]

Re: Indian Dislike

@deedawar

Language Food Clothings Ceremonies lifestyle etc.

Now .........let me ask you...

why did you ask me the question?

Did you not know the answer yourself?...........

I still say, Indians are prejudices and biased against Pakistani people.

If they are in higher position outside India, they would not try to hire Pakistani people but Pakistani people do hire non-indians or Indians alike.

does any indian deny those comman grounds you mentioned?

To your last question, one of my buddies was telling that he was interviewed by a pakistani, and he told me he was rejected just because he was indian.

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: Indian Dislike

@ssingh

does any indian deny those comman grounds you mentioned?

To your last question, one of my buddies was telling that he was interviewed by a pakistani, and he told me he was rejected just because he was indian.

did he stop and think for a minute that maybe he was not the best candidate.

[ssingh]

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@Fraudz

did he stop and think for a minute that maybe he was not the best candidate.

He did. He acknowledged his drawbacks also. what he said was the questions that were asked were not related to the one in which he was specialized.

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: Indian Dislike

point being could he have been shafted, maybe, but at the same time he could have been not teh right fit, or maybe he was the right fit, but someone was better. The ackowledgement though sounds a little strange, if thejob requires different skills, the questions will not be just on aspects one specializes in but on all aspects, and interviewers then dig deeper in areas they want tto get a better understanding of a candidates skills. I have done it, I have faced it. Thats just how it is. I think ppl make excuses in this case to make it someone else's fault. Does it happen, by all means, but probably not as much as people want to think it does.

[Matrubhoomi]

Re: Indian Dislike

I recommended two Pakistani technicians for hiring and I am Indian.....so where is the biased?

I think in professional matters qualification and experience communserate to job requirement matters.

Of course if there are two candidates for one job with almost similiar skills then naturally the recruiter will go for his nationality----it's natural and there is nothing wrong in that.

[system]

Re: Indian Dislike

@ssingh

even indians will also say that about pakistanis

One of the reasons could be indian restaurants are there in large numbers. So any indian who goes there and finds more local cuisine in those restaurants, then he will go to there only. It has got nothing to do with hate. Moreover,it is south indians who form a substantial chunk of those indians. South indian tastes and cuisine are bit different than north, so they go there only. Besides, if beef or for that matter even non-veg is also served in pakistani restaurants, then forget it.

your adnan sami, jal, or who all came to india, made lot of money and name also.

again they are not in large numbers. Above explanation holds good here also.

who told pakistanis dont come?...they do. though small in number. Indias population is 7-8 times that of pakistan. if you find one pakistani in indian forum, then you will find 7-8 indians in pakistani forum. Even perhaps indian run websites, far outnumber again. Given by less number of pakistanis and more number of indian websites, presence of pakistanis in those forums would get diluted further.

Besides, i do agree that some indians might be biased against pakistanis due to various reasons. and i have been to a paki restaurant only once. Rest all other times i have been to indian restaurants only. not because i hate or anything, it is just like that.

Adnan Sami is a Pakistani turn coat who is now an Indian citizen, so you cant really count him...

[mercenary2k]

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Some of my best friends are Indians. I have one Hindu Indian friend who only hangs out with Pakistanis. But rarely do Pakistanis hang out with Indians, meaning 1 Pakistani and many Indians.

Personally I don't feel welcome or comfortable when I am the only Pakistani and the rest are all Indians where as Indians feel very comfortable hanging out with Pakistanis.

Also, Indians have a much more negative and hateful perception of Pakistanis. While Pakistanis watch Indian moves, tv shows, which introduces to their culture and character but very little know about the realities about Pakistan besides what they read on the news that Pakistan is a country of terrorists, madrassa bred zombies who hate hindus, etc.....

Thats why when I go to Indian forums like Bhahrat Rakhshah I get brutally attacked by Indian posters calling me a madrassa rat, a jihal muslim, and Pakistan a banana republic, something which needs to be wiped out or something in that nature.

Where as Indians in these forums besides the odd poster are generally liked and welcomed and if someone acts out of line, the mods act. So Indians are much welcomed and liked by Pakistanis, its just that Indians don't like us but hate us.

Look at Indian fans when they come to watch Cricket in Pakistan, they are treated kindly in Pakistan and the Indian Cricket team is given flowers.

But Pakistani fans will be risking their lives if they go watch a match in India and cheer for their team. Our Cricket team is thrown rocks and bottles and other things.

When India defeats Pakistan, Indians throw a celebration greater than they would if they had won the world cup where as our Media acknowledges and congratulates the Indian team if they defeated us on Pakistani soil.

I have met a lot of Indians professionally and personally, and I just get a sense that to a common Indian, we Pakistanis are people which need to be stayed away from.

Just look at this on a global stage. India will never miss an opportunity to blemish Pakistan where as Pakistan does rarely anything of the sort. Never have we made an issue about India acquiring weapons where as even if Pakistan purchases some defensive weaponry from USA, Indians in USA do their very best that we don't get these weapons.

And look at Hindi movies. Look at the way they protray us. As blood thirsty savages and something to be killed. Portraying us without emotion, thought, rationale, and purpose but something to shoot at and kill.

So overall the conclusion is that Indians are a lot more hostile to Pakistanis than Pakistanis are to Indians.

[ssingh]

Re: Indian Dislike

@Fraudz

point being could he have been shafted, maybe, but at the same time he could have been not teh right fit, or maybe he was the right fit, but someone was better. The ackowledgement though sounds a little strange, if thejob requires different skills, the questions will not be just on aspects one specializes in but on all aspects, and interviewers then dig deeper in areas they want tto get a better understanding of a candidates skills. I have done it, I have faced it. Thats just how it is. I think ppl make excuses in this case to make it someone else's fault. Does it happen, by all means, but probably not as much as people want to think it does.

his argument was, if he was not right fit for that job, then should he be called for the interview in the first place. As i said, he did acknowledge some of his own drawbacks also. anyway leave....he got a job at some other place

[Toloo-e-Aftob]

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@mercenary2k

Some of my best friends are Indians. I have one Hindu Indian friend who only hangs out with Pakistanis. But rarely do Pakistanis hang out with Indians, meaning 1 Pakistani and many Indians.

Personally I don’t feel welcome or comfortable when I am the only Pakistani and the rest are all Indians where as Indians feel very comfortable hanging out with Pakistanis.

Also, Indians have a much more negative and hateful perception of Pakistanis. While Pakistanis watch Indian moves, tv shows, which introduces to their culture and character but very little know about the realities about Pakistan besides what they read on the news that Pakistan is a country of terrorists, madrassa bred zombies who hate hindus, etc…

Thats why when I go to Indian forums like Bhahrat Rakhshah I get brutally attacked by Indian posters calling me a madrassa rat, a jihal muslim, and Pakistan a banana republic, something which needs to be wiped out or something in that nature.

Where as Indians in these forums besides the odd poster are generally liked and welcomed and if someone acts out of line, the mods act. So Indians are much welcomed and liked by Pakistanis, its just that Indians don’t like us but hate us.

Look at Indian fans when they come to watch Cricket in Pakistan, they are treated kindly in Pakistan and the Indian Cricket team is given flowers.

But Pakistani fans will be risking their lives if they go watch a match in India and cheer for their team. Our Cricket team is thrown rocks and bottles and other things.

When India defeats Pakistan, Indians throw a celebration greater than they would if they had won the world cup where as our Media acknowledges and congratulates the Indian team if they defeated us on Pakistani soil.

I have met a lot of Indians professionally and personally, and I just get a sense that to a common Indian, we Pakistanis are people which need to be stayed away from.

Just look at this on a global stage. India will never miss an opportunity to blemish Pakistan where as Pakistan does rarely anything of the sort. Never have we made an issue about India acquiring weapons where as even if Pakistan purchases some defensive weaponry from USA, Indians in USA do their very best that we don’t get these weapons.

And look at Hindi movies. Look at the way they protray us. As blood thirsty savages and something to be killed. Portraying us without emotion, thought, rationale, and purpose but something to shoot at and kill.

So overall the conclusion is that Indians are a lot more hostile to Pakistanis than Pakistanis are to Indians.

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Bharat Rakhshah isn’t the only place where they show their Makaar Katar-Hindu nature, they even do it on Sulekha writing up false propoganda and fanatsy stories about us lol, even on non-Desi websites such as All Empires they are spewing their filth…

It seems that in India the only way to instill pride/nationalism in Indians is to arouse the anti-Muslim/Pakistani sentiment in them.. Ever since they are kids they are brainwashed against the Muslim/Paki “boogyman” in their Bajrang-Dal Gurukuls/Aashrams so that it becomes a part of their nature to despise us…

Hatred breeds hatred, I didn’t use to hate Hindus/Indians but after seeing what they’re like there’s nobody I despise more than these Hindutva morons (most Indians, some secretly/subtly)… Up untill now I was “moderate” and only saw the political-incorrectness in fellow Pakis and condemned them but now that I look at it with an open mind Indians are far more bitter regarding Pakis/Muslims than our people are to them, if anything Paki ppl just want to have fun and couldn’t care less about Pak-India emity, their feelings of resentment to India are only a result of Indian/Hindu ppls anti-Pak/Islam attitudes..

[LuxuryItem]

Re: Indian Dislike

@mercenary2k

I have met a lot of Indians professionally and personally, and I just get a sense that to a common Indian, we Pakistanis are people which need to be stayed away from.

If some people to choose to stay away from Pakistanis, that's their problem. Why should Pakistanis want to be approached, befriended by Indians or for that matter any other ethnic group? Is there a desperate need for such relations?

You don't think non-Pakistanis have issues with Indians? People aren't stupid, you know. :D

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Just look at this on a global stage. India will never miss an opportunity to blemish Pakistan where as Pakistan does rarely anything of the sort. Never have we made an issue about India acquiring weapons where as even if Pakistan purchases some defensive weaponry from USA, Indians in USA do their very best that we don't get these weapons.
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This is something Pakistanis need to be paying a LOT of attention to! Indian lobby in America is very organized and very powerful. Any group that starts some pro-Kashmir initiative meets bitter resistance from Indian lobby. Some would claim that Indian lobby is modelled after pro-Israel lobby in America, another very powerful and influential group.

Ever wondered why Indian culture is becoming so palatable to American? Why are so many books being published by young nobody Indian authors like Lahiri et al? Why aren't Chinese getting a similar treatment even though they've been in the Americas far LONGER than Indians.

India is the next satellite American state, like England and Israel.

[co0olguy]

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why cant we all just be friends

[ssingh]

Re: Indian Dislike

@Toloo-e-Aftob

:k:

Bharat Rakhshah isn’t the only place where they show their Makaar Katar-Hindu nature, they even do it on Sulekha writing up false propoganda and fanatsy stories about us lol, even on non-Desi websites such as All Empires they are spewing their filth…

It seems that in India the only way to instill pride/nationalism in Indians is to arouse the anti-Muslim/Pakistani sentiment in them.. Ever since they are kids they are brainwashed against the Muslim/Paki “boogyman” in their Bajrang-Dal Gurukuls/Aashrams so that it becomes a part of their nature to despise us…

Hatred breeds hatred, I didn’t use to hate Hindus/Indians but after seeing what they’re like there’s nobody I despise more than these Hindutva morons (most Indians, some secretly/subtly)… Up untill now I was “moderate” and only saw the political-incorrectness in fellow Pakis and condemned them but now that I look at it with an open mind Indians are far more bitter regarding Pakis/Muslims than our people are to them, if anything Paki ppl just want to have fun and couldn’t care less about Pak-India emity, their feelings of resentment to India are only a result of Indian/Hindu ppls anti-Pak/Islam attitudes..

in first paragraph this guy calls someone makkaar and next paragraph tells hatred breeds hatred:D

You know what, even in pakistanidefenceforum, you will find find indians being called bhindians, cow piss drinkers, and all kinds of things said about them.

But, inspite of that, you will still find indians over there:D …what could be the reasons. Let me list

1)those indians lack self respect
2)they love pakistanis and want friendship with them despite those insults
3)or is it just that, they see lot of insult about them, so they go there and face it
4)all of the above

[ssingh]

Re: Indian Dislike

@LuxuryItem

This is something Pakistanis need to be paying a LOT of attention to! Indian lobby in America is very organized and very powerful. Any group that starts some pro-Kashmir initiative meets bitter resistance from Indian lobby. Some would claim that Indian lobby is modelled after pro-Israel lobby in America, another very powerful and influential group.

Ever wondered why Indian culture is becoming so palatable to American? Why are so many books being published by young nobody Indian authors like Lahiri et al? Why aren’t Chinese getting a similar treatment even though they’ve been in the Americas far LONGER than Indians.

India is the next satellite American state, like England and Israel.

India is exactly doing what should be done. Even chinese are very palatable to pakistanis even though they atheists who are worst than pagans and dhimmies. still you are friends due to various reasons;) . You will see this for yourself within next 10 years as to how things develop. india could be in war which perhaps it is what you want;)

American government might be trying to give special treatment to india. Again i will tell you the reason. It is because of indian campaign. One eg: Green revolution in india happened due to american help. Our PM openly acknowledged this contribution of america and thanked them in their congress. Our economy is kicking because of america which again is an acknowledgement. In short, indian government has acknowleged that it is a dhimmi of america which chinese wont do. They are taking confrontational stand. I dont how this lahiri is famous. I think even in her novel, she places america as a great country. then definitely her novel will be famous over there:D .

[Mallika]

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my only exposure to anything Pakistani growing up in America was in college and my group of friends were all mixed -1 friend from Bangladesh and then mostly all Indians and Pakistanis mixed together. There was one Pakistani girl that had recently come from Pakistan there who was not very friendly and kind of kept her distance. I really didn't understand why since she didn't even know me very well and all she knew was that I was an Indian American.

Everything Indian is exposed-the movies, news,culture, the good and the bad is all there for people to see but when it comes to Pakistan there is not much seen. At least I haven't seen much. On the travel channels you always see trips people are taking to India but never to Pakistan. I wish there was something like that just so I could see how Pakistanis really are but people are never given an opportunity to see anything relating to Pakistan other than the music which is already so popular in India these days(atif, ali zafar, most of the music groups).