Look Defender of Pakistan, every one have right to express their opinions. Try to take other point of views too, you can disagree but with respect.
*** I am Pakistani & Muslim*
You are here to act like them, so they are not needed.
Expressing opinion is one thing, spreading their hatred and anti Pak propaganda over and over again is completely different.
You are here to act like them, so they are not needed.
Expressing opinion is one thing, spreading their hatred and anti Pak propaganda over and over again is completely different.
Don't we have problem of Jihadi's & extremists?
Don't we have people (most of them) who wanted to take care of India?
Don't we have mullahs bashing 24/7 on Jihad against India/USA/west?
Oh Bhai Jaan, why you are so confused? in Defense forum you were calling me indian & hindu, come on give it a break. We are here to discuss if everyone of us have the same opinion & thinking how we gonna discuss, try to tolerate words (good).
** i am Pakistani & Muslim...
Don't we have problem of Jihadi's & extremists? Don't we have people (most of them) who wanted to take care of India? Don't we have mullahs bashing 24/7 on Jihad against India/USA/west?
Oh Bhai Jaan, why you are so confused? in Defense forum you were calling me indian & hindu, come on give it a break. We are here to discuss if everyone of us have the same opinion & thinking how we gonna discuss, try to tolerate words (good).
** i am Pakistani & Muslim...
Doesn't India have problems with hinduist extremists?
Doesn't India have people (most of them) who wanted to take care of Pakistan?
Doesn't India have hinduist extremists bashing 24/7 their "jihad"against indian muslims/indian Christians / Pakistan/Muslim world?
We have been enough on defensive. Now is the time to play with their rules (tell the world how dangerous hinduist extremists are to the world peace), while eliminating the jihadis in Pak at the same time..
Doesn't India have problems with hinduist extremists? Doesn't India have people (most of them) who wanted to take care of Pakistan? Doesn't India have hinduist extremists bashing 24/7 their "jihad"against indian muslims/indian Christians / Pakistan/Muslim world?
We have been enough on defensive. Now is the time to play with their rules (tell the world how dangerous hinduist extremists are to the world peace), while eliminating the jihadis in Pak at the same time..
Their is only one difference between hindu extremists & pakistani extremist. We wanted to take over the world after all we are so called "fort of islam". *
"bachey ghaliyoon mein nangey phir rahey hain aur hum chaley hain larney amerika k sath"*
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Not only they were carrying their IDs stating their addresses and names, but for some reason ( only known to indian media/police) picture of only few dead ones are shown, remaing were the file photos. which i guess terrorist were carring along with them for identification purposes.
Wait untill u get more "results"...
Not only they were carrying their IDs stating their addresses and names, but for some reason ( only known to indian media/police) picture of only few dead ones are shown, remaing were the file photos. which i guess terrorist were carring along with them for identification purposes.
Wait untill u get more "results"...
When our President, PM, COAS, FO, DO are crying all over the world that we are taking action against LET & Jaish-e-Muhammad. Please tell me what to believe your version, Indian version or Pak Gov version?
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^^ Forget the versions now, just tell me how they managed to get the IDs and addresses of these terrorists, plus how come few are dead and few were file photos.... please provide me with the logic.. the concern u have raised has been under discussion in other thread so lets not mix them here...
^^ Forget the versions now, just tell me how they managed to get the IDs and addresses of these terrorists, plus how come few are dead and few were file photos.... please provide me with the logic.. the concern u have raised has been under discussion in other thread so lets not mix them here...
Just like Pak government have the list 35 people with their known addresses, associates to share with Indian.
Just like Pak Government present Bulgram Bhugti videos, pictures meeting with Indians to USA.
Just like USA sometime provide video of Zardari bathing in Presidential Palace and get the
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Their is only one difference between hindu extremists & pakistani extremist. We wanted to take over the world after all we are so called "fort of islam". * "bachey ghaliyoon mein nangey phir rahey hain aur hum chaley hain larney amerika k sath"*
But you get the point... this is a strange world where facts are irrelevant.. at least in the media. You can make people believe "black is white" by repeating over and over and over again.
Have you ever wondered why india has been so successful with its shameless self promotion as "shining india", despite the worst human rights and all sort of social problems, extremism, genocide of minorities and so on?
Because indians don't show their internal negative sides to the outside world. Some proclaimed "enlightened " Paks on the other hand don't worry much about the consequences of what they are saying or writing about their country.
As far as jihadis concern, they are enemies of everyone. Even their own! And we are fighting them, suffering most in the process. So this is what the world MUST know. And they will if we come out of this defensive mentality and promote it aggressively.
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^^ u look like one who compare apple with oranges...
preparing such intelligence video of things you have mentioned is normally part of their work, but identifying them by name and getting their file picture doesn't make any sense to anyone...
having list doesn't bother anyone, but indian media first produced some video of some rehman chacha, where face of none was shown and now they comeup with these pictures... out of which only few are of the dead ones, and rest the file photos... i wonder these were "terrorist" are free and laughing at the analysis and pictures ..
If the news about allowing the Indians to interrogate the Pakistani terror suspects is true, then it is great move by Great Zardari and the Pakistani government. I am sure Pakistanis can learn a great deal from Indian interrogation techniques and teams which had allowed the Indian Agencies not only to identify the terrorists as Pakistanis but also get the details of where they live.
Pakistan may permit India to question key terror suspects
‘India may be allowed to question suspects’
SLAMABAD/NEW DELHI: Pakistan has arrested two key terror suspects India wants and could permit New Delhi to interrogate them if this is done jointly, a senior Pakistani minister said Tuesday.Confirming the arrests of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhwi, a top suspect in the Mumbai terror strikes, and Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) chief Masood Azhar, wanted for his alleged role in the Dec 13, 2001 attack on the Indian parliament, Pakistani Defence Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar Tuesday said India may be allowed to interrogate them.
“If need be, we can have a joint interrogation,” Mukhtar told CNN-IBN in a telephonic interview.
Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi was silent on the interrogation aspect but asserted that the suspects would not be handed over to India, as New Delhi has demanded.
“The arrests are being made for our own investigations. Even if allegations are proved against any suspect, he will not be handed over to India,” Qureshi said in Multan, adding: "We will proceed against those arrested under Pakistani laws."India, on its part, was closely “monitoring and verifying” the crackdown by Pakistan’s security and intelligence agencies on the terrorist outfits and hoped Islamabad will move beyond “tokenism” and take “concrete, meaningful action” against the suspects behind the Mumbai terror attacks.
“It’s too early to react. We have seen this kind of reaction in the past,” top government sources, who did not wish to be named, told IANS in New Delhi Tuesday, a day after Pakistan confirmed a quiet crackdown by its security agencies on known terror outfits in that country.
Defence Minister Mukhtar, in the first comments by the Pakistani government on the arrests of the militant leaders, said: "Lakhwi was picked up yesterday (Monday). Azhar has also been picked up."Ruling out any movement of Pakistani troops towards the Indian borders, Mukhtar asserted that Pakistan will “help India in every possible way” and made a renewed pitch for joint investigations into the Mumbai attack - a suggestion that India has spurned.Claiming that Islamabad was cracking down on terror groups, Mukhtar said: "No one can doubt our credibility.
We have discussed how we can help our neighbours in fighting terrorism."“We are ready to help India in every possible way. Joint investigations will help in probing the Mumbai attack,” Mukhtar asserted.“We will help India in joint investigations… India may be allowed to interrogate these people also,” he added.
According to reports, Lakhwi was among the at least 15 people detained in the last two days after raids on a camp run by the banned LeT in Pakistan-administered Kashmir.
Following the Mumbai terror attacks, Pakistani security forces also sealed a camp of the Jamaat-ud-Dawah (JD), as the LeT is widely believed to have been renamed after it was proscribed, in the Shawai Nullah neighbourhood of Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistani Kashmir.
In a statement issued late Monday, a military spokesperson in Islamabad said in a statement that an operation to target militant organisations had started in the wake of the Mumbai attacks.
“The military confirms an operation of law enforcement is underway,” it said, adding that there had been arrests and investigations were underway.Pakistani authorities on Monday placed restrictions on the movement of JeM chief Masood Azhar by confining him to his multi-storeyed concrete compound in the Model Town area of Bahawalpur.
“Well-placed official sources say Masood Azhar’s activities have been restricted in the wake of the Indian government’s demand to hand him over to New Delhi,” The News said.Asked about the Pakistani action, government sources in New Delhi said: “It’s too early to react. We have seen this kind of reaction in the past.”
“We have to move beyond mere statements and tokenism. At this stage, nobody is interested in tokenism,” sources privy to the government’s thinking on the subject said.“There has to be real, meaningful action that will signal Pakistan’s will to walk the talk on terror,” the sources said, while alluding to similar action by Islamabad in the past that did not stop terror attacks launched on India from Pakistani territory.
When asked to spell out what specific actions India sought from Pakistan, the sources said that the first thing Pakistan needs to do is to hand over fugitives wanted by India for major terror strikes, including the Nov 26 Mumbai attacks.
“That’s why arresting a handful of LeT operatives is not enough,” the sources said.“It’s nothing more then tokenism. They want to take minimum possible action to appease the Americans,” Satish Chandra, a former deputy national security adviser and a former Indian envoy to Pakistan, told IANS.
India, meanwhile, is keeping open all its options, including precision strikes against terrorist camps and destroying them through covert action in the aftermath of the Mumbai attacks.
But you get the point... this is a strange world where facts are irrelevant.. at least in the media. You can make people believe "black is white" by repeating over and over and over again.
Have you ever wondered why india has been so successful with its shameless self promotion as "shining india", despite the worst human rights and all sort of social problems, extremism, genocide of minorities and so on?
Because indians don't show their internal negative sides to the outside world. Some proclaimed "enlightened " Paks on the other hand don't worry much about the consequences of what they are saying or writing about their country.
As far as jihadis concern, they are enemies of everyone. Even their own! And we are fighting them, suffering most in the process. So this is what the world MUST know. And they will if we come out of this defensive mentality and promote it aggressively.
...and you think we are angels, don't have same problems every bigger then they have.
...and you think we are angels, don't have same problems every bigger then they have.
Did you even bother to read my earlier post till the end?
Or just stopped at the sentence which could provide you with something to write about?
Did you even bother to read my earlier post till the end?
Or just stopped at the sentence which could provide you with something to write about?
Isi leya tu highlight kiya tha... :p
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I won't be surprised if these "terrorists" pictured are alive and well obviously not the difigured ones, just like the alleged 9/11 terrorists who were alive and well and protested.. :D
I won't be surprised if these "terrorists" pictured are alive and well obviously not the difigured ones, just like the alleged 9/11 terrorists who were alive and well and protested.. :D
When detectives start investigating, they don't rule out anything outright...
So very much possible, ;)
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One thing is disturbing
Why all of those not injured have pics like in some studio with smileon thier faces .Who carried these pics toIndia from Pakistan.Why all pics re not of injured as few are.
Regarding names, Abu is the sir name of many Jamaut Dawa people as I have seen on thier magazine . Actually since they follow Salafi/Wahabi school of thought so by norm of Saudia , they add Abu name in front of thier original name , means father or Kunyaat etc
Similarly Umme is the word found extensively in Tayyibat, a magazine for girls of LeT/Jamat Dawa like umme hassan, umme farwa,umme sadeeq etc
So, if names are correct , they are pointing towards LeT connections plus Okara,Multan,Faisalabad etc are main centres of LeT .I wish it would be proven wrong but thier pics too resembles of Pakistanis. If it is proven Pakistan really be in great great pressure and danger :(
......Regarding names, Abu is the sir name of many Jamaut Dawa people
Similarly Umme is the word found extensively in Tayyibat, a magazine for girls of LeT/Jamat Dawa ......
So, if names are correct , they are pointing towards LeT connections
... If it is proven Pakistan really be in great great pressure and danger :(
Yes it looks like Indians are doing better job in pointing out the culprits than we do in our media.
There have been hundreds of attacks in Pakistan. We seldom see the picture, or name printed widely across the media.
Hopefully now Pak media will learn to call Jihadi menace what it really is.
Pakistan will certainly be under pressure. But danger from India is less of a problem compared to the revenge from the mosques and madrassahs when LeT bigwigs are apprehended and prosecuted.
Just think Lal masjid and multiply that with 1000 times. That's how strongly Maulvis will go after the state and the society of Pakistan.
These are the most gruesome pictures I have ever seen after May 12 carnage. To me it looks like they were first tortured and then killed. Only one was left alive to speak the details. Probably he is the person who linked this ugly mission with LTd. Why these retards were on suicidal mission in a different country where their knowledge about these places must be zero?These all are alleged to be Muslims, they killed mostly Indians and who knows a vast majority who were killed might be Muslims too. Why????? Any expert on the subject can explain this phenomenon which is quite illogical and unbelievable. If these were really Pakistanis then they were the main sabotagers of breaking Pakistan in to pieces.
Time has come to make a bitter dicision to finish this jehadi menace once for all. I would say even if it is1000000 times more than the lal masjid, just do it and clean this garbage once for all to save Pakistan.