India cries over the sale of US Drones to Pakistan

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Hindustan is worried that Pakistan might use this technology against their brothers in Balochistan and in SWAT :omg: :omg:

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^^

Somebody heard about wet dreams ?

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the question is Americans are hoping India will buy 20 billion $ worth of weapons in the next few years from them then why give away free weapons to Pakistan who can use those weapons against Indian interest ? it may work ? i has already worked with F-16's,

free weapons!! There is no such thing as free lunch just like there is no free soya bean oil.

True. India is scared. Following could be just one of the many reasons:

1 in 3 hand grenades is a dud: Defence survey

Shishir Arya, TNN 7 September 2009, 12:25am IST

NAGPUR: Imagine a scenario in which an Indian soldier’s life and the life of his mates depends on a grenade — may be the last one with the jawan — to stop an advancing enemy. He takes the pin out and lobs it. But, instead of hearing an explosion, the jawans are met with a hail of bullets.

Unthinkable? Think again. A recent official survey of weaponry being used by guarding our borders reveals that about 30% of hand-grenades used by jawans don’t explode — which means an alarming one in three is a dud. The survey, carried out by weapons experts from and defence organisations, is based on interviews with jawans posted in border areas.

Sources with access to the survey report did not share the exact figures and causes of failure citing secrecy involved with defence projects, but preliminary investigations have shown that it’s not unusual for detonators used in the grenades to surpass their shelf life by the time they reach the hands of a soldier in a conflict zone.

It’s the detonator that separately triggers the blast in the grenade. The grenade, a crucial weapon in a soldier’s armoury, is often used as the last resort to thwart the enemy in close quarter battle. Grenades supplied to the are made by ordnance factories under Indian State Ordnance Factory Board.

“Soldiers said the grenades often go blind — meaning they don’t explode in purely technical terms — putting them in a precarious situation,” said a source. Defence experts and ex-servicemen say this is an old problem that has never been properly addressed.

Col (retd) RSN Singh of ‘India Defence Review’ says the figure of 30% duds is stupefying. Singh, who retired from the Infantry six months ago, says, ‘‘A soldier normally carries four grenades in a counter-insurgency operation. Even a single dud can prove disastrous as it would leave the soldier vulnerable. Such duds can shake a soldier’s confidence.’’

Defence expert Col (retd) U S Rathore says India still uses World War-II vintage hand grenades. He says there are chances that the detonators are susceptible to chemical degradation and adds that terrorists have far superior Belgian grenades that explode in 2.5 seconds compared to the four seconds it takes for the Indian grenades.

India may have made an indigenous nuclear submarine. But it appears its defence establishment is yet to make a fail-proof grenade. Incidentally, a grenade can be propelled through rifles or an under-barrel grenade launcher (UBGL). But the Insas rifles used by the army don’t have launchers for grenades; soldiers have to carry the old 7.62mm rifles for that.

1 in 3 hand grenades is a dud: Defence survey - India - NEWS - The Times of India

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just a little sarcasm, but seriously Americans are loosing lifes to save Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Given how President Zardari roams aroud with aid bowl you do seem to be in royal illusion..

Pakistan's whole economy runs on aid yaar how foten have we heard one after another pakisatni pm/presidnet claimign we could nto do this or that lest aiud would be blocked form west..

open your eyes mate

Oh pai, what AID, the day you learn the meaning of **"there is no such thing as free lunch" **come post someting to discuss.

BTW there is a grand difference between aid and charity and India is the charity queen a USD 5B charity sector with US/UK/Germany/France the biggest contributors.

Correct. A war between the two would inevitably go nuclear, since one party is much stronger than the other. The weaker party would be forced to either capitulate or to use nuclear weapons in a desperate effort to force a stalemate, or in a delusional attempt to "win". This would lead to a nuclear response. Tens of millions of people would die, the major cities of each nation would be destroyed in a war between India and Pakistan (or India and China, China or Russia for that matter). Is such a cost worth Kashmir?

It won't come to that. Everyone in the neighborhood knows the consequences of Nuke usage.

If anything, it will be a conventional war, and air superiority will dominate any future battle. Nuclear weapons of both nations in particular are to keep each other in check in case of trigger-happy emotions. It's a good healthy deterrent for and to both neighbors.

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Can we Pleazzzzz Go ahead and use it against Hindia ? Just for Fun,,, !!
I have never seen Hindia cry or drool over 'doroonay khawab' :)

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The basis of all these problems is that India never really accepted the creation of Pakistan from the heart, so they will keep on trying their childish schemes to destabilize Pakistan. I think Pakistan should concentrate on the thousand fault lines in India.

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^ this is so obvious to you but escapes your military strategists and generals? why is that

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^ Rules of engagement !
No two are alike :jhanda:

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I saw pakistanis doing whine dance over civil nuclear energy agreemnt so why shoud not India complain about openly military aid..

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