Re: In Praise of General Zia-Ul-Haq Shaheed
sahee kehta tha noam chomsky…pakistan was one of the 4 police men, helping bad arab regimes keep their people suppressed. 
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Pahli Baat I also like AP’s sense of humor and me or muqawwee never use these words to hurt him, actually now it’s become AP trade mark like my overall trademark is paindo/jahil and I m proud on it :cobra:
2ndly Yah Paki ka jumlay shayad aap ko udhar sunnnay ko buhat miltay hoon aur aap idhar ghussa nikaltay hain, waisay jo Desi banda Angrazi ziyada bigharay hum uss ko Katha Angraiz boltay hain 
3[SUP]rd[/SUP] I don’t think so GS Management is so rigid about banning and I don’t know the background of AP’s ban but main nay aur aap nay bhi koi kasar nahin utha rakhi hoti hay leekan kia yah MODs key himmat naheen hay kah bawajood hamray opposition honay hamain bardashat kar rahay hain 
, yes liking or disliking is a human nature and we can’t deny LEEKAN kuch nah kuch tou appreciate kar he daina chahiye apnay dil par pathar rakh kar 
Re: In Praise of General Zia-Ul-Haq Shaheed
Baqi to yah humla theek hay leekan aik aur lafz ka izzafa kardain … Yeh HUM Pakistanion ki pruani aadat hay. Pehaly mizaq urhao, gaalyain do, phir condemn karo, …Shukaria :cobra:
Re: In Praise of General Zia-Ul-Haq Shaheed
Choti Choti Khushyaan Ganjoon key dour-e-hakoomat main 
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آج پھر اس ملعون کی برسی ہے ، آج پورا عالم اسلام جس بربادی میں مبتلا ہے وہ اسی مردود کا ورثه ہے
ظلمت کو ضیاء صر صر کو صبا بندے کو خدا کیا لکھنا
پتھر کو گُہر ، دیوار کو دَر ، کرگس کو ہُما کیا لکھنا
اک حشر بپا ہے گھر گھر میں ، دم گُھٹتا ہے گنبدِ بے دَر میں
اک شخص کے ہاتھوں مدت سے رُسوا ہے وطن دنیا بھر میں
اے دیدہ ورو اس ذلت سے کو قسمت کا لکھا کیا لکھنا
ظلمت کو ضیاء صر صر کو صبا بندے کو خدا کیا لکھنا
یہ اہلِ چشم یہ دارا و جَم سب نقش بر آب ہیں اے ہمدم
مٹ جائیں گے سب پروردۂ شب ، اے اہلِ وفا رہ جائیں گے ہم
ہو جاں کا زیاں، پر قاتل کو معصوم ادا کیا لکھنا
ظلمت کو ضیاء صر صر کو صبا بندے کو خدا کیا لکھنا
لوگوں ہی پہ ہم نے جاں واری ، کی ہم نے انہی کی غم خواری
ہوتے ہیں تو ہوں یہ ہاتھ قلم ، شاعر نہ بنیں گے درباری
ابلیس نُما انسانوں کی اے دوست ثنا کیا لکھنا
ظلمت کو ضیاء صر صر کو صبا بندے کو خدا کیا لکھنا
حق بات پہ کوڑے اور زنداں ، باطل کے شکنجے میں ہے یہ جاں
انساں ہیں کہ سہمے بیٹھے ہیں ، خونخوار درندے ہیں رقصاں
اس ظلم و ستم کو لطف و کرم ، اس دُکھ کو دوا کیا لکھنا
ظلمت کو ضیاء صر صر کو صبا بندے کو خدا کیا لکھنا
ہر شام یہاں شامِ ویراں ، آسیب زدہ رستے گلیاں
جس شہر کی دُھن میں نکلے تھے ، وہ شہر دلِ برباد کہاں
صحرا کو چمن، بَن کو گلشن ، بادل کو رِدا کیا لکھنا
ظلمت کو ضیاء صر صر کو صبا بندے کو خدا کیا لکھنا
اے میرے وطن کے فنکارو! ظلمت پہ نہ اپنا فن وارو
یہ محل سراؤں کے باسی ، قاتل ہیں سبھی اپنے یارو
ورثے میں ہمیں یہ غم ہے ملِا ، اس غم کو نیا کیا لکھنا
ظلمت کو ضیاء، صَر صَر کو صبا ، بندے کو خدا کیا لکھنا
حبیب جالب
Re: In Praise of General Zia-Ul-Haq Shaheed
Shukaria yaad dehani ka :hug:
Shaheed General Zia Ul Haq :hbk:
yeh article post kertey hoye buhat khushi ho rahi hey aor umeed hey kah dushman aag bagola ho jaein gaiy :omg:
Re: In Praise of General Zia-Ul-Haq Shaheed
Zia ki baqiyaat zinda hai 
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For the people who Do have some sort of grudge or hatred with Zia… i kind of think they are not fully aware of the MESS we could have been in, if not for his leadership…and who would forget General Akhtar Abdur Rehman.
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Yeh , writer , who is full time employee of Malik Riaz .
Is ki bat , Mubashar Luqman ki bat
Afsos , jahilon par
Kal us ki qabar par koi thooknay bhi naheen gia
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Everyone misses the good old days!
JUDICIAL CORPORAL PUNISHMENT: PAKISTAN c.1980
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^ sadly the so called democratic regimes werent any better...just check what ever transpired during the so called democracy prevailing in the country...71 to 76...
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^ sadly the so called democratic regimes werent any better...just check what ever transpired during the so called democracy prevailing in the country...71 to 76...
Yeah, they weren't much better... But public flogging has a far more visceral impact on our recollections I think. For as bad as the democratic dispensation may have been, nothing is more barbaric as people gathering around to watch a man being humiliated and screaming in agony. Corruption and violence are endemic to the society, but this open display of state administered brutality is really alien to my concept of Pakistan. Its really not who we are.
Personally I have never understood the logic in such public dispays.. I mean what are we doing other then desensitizing society to violence... Wouldn't that perpetuate a culture of violence, if people aren't averse to it? And isnt that whats resulted, a society today, that seems numb to such things? Zia did a wonderful job in destroying the last vestige of innocence this society had left through such barbarity.
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mujhey fakher hey jahil honey per 
yeh lein u k liye angreeji mein :cobra: eik dafa phir logon k chahrey par hansi laney ko :rotfl:
GEN. ZIA’S FAMOUS THREAT TO INDIAN PM RAJIV GANDHI IN 1987
*August 27, 2013 · *
http://pakspeaks.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/zia-rajiv.jpg?w=210&h=155File Photo: Pakistan President General Zia-ul-Haq & Indian PM Rajiv Gandhi
The Representative of India Today included the comments of BehramNam – Special Advisor to Indian PM Rajiv Gandhi, on his article on Gen. Zia-ul-Haq’s visit to India. He writes,
“Pakistan President General Zia-ul-Haq arrived in New Delhi (enroute to Chennai to watch the Pakistan-India Test Match) without any invitation. At that time, Indian PM was not ready to meet Gen. Zia at the Airport. Indian Army were waiting for PM orders for an Attack on Pakistan through the Rajasthan Sector. In such a situation, it was improper to meet the Pakistani President. But Opposition Leaders & Cabinet Members were of the view that despite that the Pakistani Leader arrived without any invitation, it will be against Diplomatic Norms not to meet him & would cause misunderstandings about the Indian leadership on an International Level.
On our persuasion, Rajiv Gandhi went to the Airport the receive the President of Pakistan. Gen. Zia was accorded a lukewarm response from the Indian Prime Minister with an uninterested handshake without making any eye-contact. Rajiv Gandhi said to me, “Gen. Zia has to go to Chennai to watch the Cricket Match, so accompany him & take care of him”. I thought that Bhagwan how strong is this man, that inspite of an insulting behaviour from Rajiv Gandhi, Gen. Zia kept smiling.
Before his departure, Gen. Zia turned to Rajiv Gandhi and said, ‘Mr. Rajiv, you want to attack Pakistan, go ahead and do it. But keep in mind that after this the World would forget Hulagu Khan & Gengis Khan & will only remember Zia-ul-Haq & Rajiv Gandhi. Because this will not be a Conventional War but a Nuclear War. In this situation, Pakistan might be completely destroyed, but Muslims will still be there in the World, but however with the destruction of India, Hinduism will vanish from the face of this earth’.
Cold-drops of perspiration were visible on Rajiv Gandhi’s forehead. I felt sensation in my backbone. These were only few minutes, but Gen. Zia seemed to us a very dangerous man. With a stern-face, Gen. Zia’s eyes showed that he meant business. I was astonished, that after this stern warning, in a flash, Gen. Zia started smiling as if nothing happened & warmly shook hands with other hosts. Except Rajiv Gandhi & myself, that this Gen. Zia had created problems for the Indian PM by threatening him of Nuclear War.”
No matter how bad people say about Gen. Zia, but this is a fact that Gen. Zia was a Pro-Pakistan, True & Honest Leader, one of the finest Pakistan has ever had. Such events & circumstances define a Leader. Be it Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto or Nawaz Sharif, the former initiating the Nuclear Program & the latter conducting the Nuclear Blasts.
Gen. Zia’s Famous Threat To Indian PM Rajiv Gandhi in 1987 | PAKISTAN SPEAKS!!
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0mKl7tAdrnp67Q1b0pr-2E6qtbuX85WENu0ZNGTM4t4mdyOJ-
Is ko bhi Malik Riaz ney khareeda howa hey :cb:
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lol this thread gotta be a joke haha
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To know haq , just see what side the arrows of kuffar are.
Imam Ibn timiya
:)
buhet achi bat ki ap ney :)
Re: In Praise of General Zia-Ul-Haq Shaheed
^ kia baat hai jo Zia ko acha kahey woh momin aur jo bura kahey woh kaafir. Allah hi hafiz hai is qaum ka
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^^ bilkul us he tareh jo Imran ko acha kahay parha likha aqalmand aur jo bura kahay woh jahil, meri tarah 
Jee Allah he muhafiz hey sub ka :halo:
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Yeah, they weren't much better... But public flogging has a far more visceral impact on our recollections I think. For as bad as the democratic dispensation may have been, nothing is more barbaric as people gathering around to watch a man being humiliated and screaming in agony. Corruption and violence are endemic to the society, but this open display of state administered brutality is really alien to my concept of Pakistan. Its really not who we are.
Personally I have never understood the logic in such public dispays.. I mean what are we doing other then desensitizing society to violence... Wouldn't that perpetuate a culture of violence, if people aren't averse to it? And isnt that whats resulted, a society today, that seems numb to such things? Zia did a wonderful job in destroying the last vestige of innocence this society had left through such barbarity.
U r quite misinformed. Need to check some history books.
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U r quite misinformed. Need to check some history books.
Care to elaborate? Public flogging was NOT around at the time? The pictures are Photoshopped I suppose.