Denial of such practice does not constitute cowardice. The issue here is not about Islam. Its in the method of deliverance.
If one can’t overcome timidity in the name of Allah then what do you consider it to be? Weak faith? Not strong enough? Exactly the point I want to make.
You could play around with the wordings and decipher what they said in a million different ways, but fact of the matter is, masked hooded men armed with machine guns in a masjid are not a sign of peace.
You are absolutely right there. Not a sign of peace, but a sign of war and should one run away when there is a war?
Agreed with what you have said but most of the comments made here reminded me of something something like this
*The hypocrites came to the Prophet (SAWS) and gave their excuses with the impression that they really wanted to take part in the battle, but difficult circumstances outside their control were preventing them from doing so. Allah’s response was:
“And if they had really intended to march forth, certainly they would have made some preparation for it; but Allah hated them being sent forth, so He made them lag behind, and it was said to them, 'Sit you among those who sit at home (women, children, elderly, etc.)” [Quran 9:46]*
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If one can’t overcome timidity in the name of Allah then what do you consider it to be?
Honestly ask yourself this question. In the above mentioned example, does it come cross as a call to jihaad or a threat?
Like i said, its a deficiency in the way it was presented. If instead of this, you had 2 unarmed men enter a masjid and solicit volunteers for jihaad, it would be different.
Not a sign of peace, but a sign of war and should one run away when there is a war?
Which war? some specification would be handy. And besides, salaat has the power to override jihaad. Jihaad does NOT have the power to override salat.
Jihaad comes second even to family responsibilities. And its not for us to judge those not going to jihaad as hypocrites. Prophet SAW did not judge the men who did not join him in the battle of Tabuk. It was Allah SWT who told Prophet SAW about those people having made excuses. If Prophet SAW didnt judge anyone, how on earth can we make such a mass assumption based on a flimsy act?
Honestly ask yourself this question. In the above mentioned example, does it come cross as a call to jihaad or a threat?
Like i said, its a deficiency in the way it was presented. If instead of this, you had 2 unarmed men enter a masjid and solicit volunteers for jihaad, it would be different.
I guess it would have been different, because in Jihaad, you get hit or take rocks in the name of Allah (swt), not bullets. Am I right?
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to convert a kafir is better than killing a million of them.
This applys here.
If all the men had not run away and were indeed killed they would go to heaven no doubt but.....
They would have left millions of un guided people who they might have shown the right path......
What if 3 of them were helping a man convert?can you Imagine that the man who was left un-converted will have kids who will have kids who will be un-guided all thanks to that man who was shaheed and can't convert him any more......
So u see Converting a kafir is Indeed better than killing a million of them.
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I guess it would have been different, because in Jihaad, you get hit or take rocks in the name of Allah (swt), not bullets. Am I right?
Interesting sarcasm, but its the essence of the issue that i was referring to. You cannot intimidate someone into Jihaad. If you do, then they might very well be going into jihaad because of the fear of your submachine gun, not the fear of Allah SWT. Once at war, everyone knows what involved in it. However, no good muslim would bring in such a weapon or use such masked threatening tactic inside a masjid. Lets face it, it was a tactic.
ShahJahan..true....but what i meant by that statement was specifically related to this thread. If salat time is upon you, you cannot interject and go to jihaad. Whereas, if you are fighting in the path of Allah SWT, you MUST interject and go to salat.