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^If He gave you sight and you choose to be blind, I say your loss.
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MQ, anjjan states
"There is a verse in the very begining of Quran (in second or third chapter) in which allah explains that he has deliberately blocked their minds so that they do not listen"
It sounds like Allah gave peopel sight and then poked their eyes it.
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He did it in the old and new testement as well. Your point being? Allah can do whatever he pleases as he is God. Those who wish to disbelieve will always disbelieve. Secondly anjjan the racist that he is is quoting out of context. Heck he doesn't even quote a line. He just flakes it. If you read the quran you will realise that.
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So Allah blocks certain peoples hearts or he doesn't CM?
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yeah Allah/jehovah/yehweh/ did that, dinn he?
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if u say that god was the one blocking their hearts....then it isnt their fault.....and they cant be blamed for anything.
why am i repeating myself again and again........i need some coffee
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Everything in this existance is by his will. So are your inane questions.
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From what I have read and understood, only those are blocked and sent astray who are already astray and are persistent in purposely rejecting the truth even when it has been presented to them out of arrogance and perhaps other reasons.
Those who wish to pursue the truth are further helped by Allah (SWT). In fact, here's a hadith Qudsi on it:
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Hadith Qudsi 15:
On the authority of Abu Harayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Prophet (PBUH) said: Allah the Almighty said:
I am as My servant thinks I am (1). I am with him when he makes mention of Me. If he makes mention of Me to himself, I make mention of him to Myself; and if he makes mention of Me in an assembly, I make mention of him in an assemble better than it. And if he draws near to Me an arm's length, I draw near to him a fathom's length. And if he comes to Me walking, I go to him at speed.
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As for those who have never heard about Islam or received the message of Islam, they will be judged based on what is good and bad according to their traditions and practices.
As for the devout people of the book, it has been stated in the Islamic traditions that they will be able to recognize Prophet Muhammad (SAW) better than their offsprings (or something to that effect) because of the signs mentioned in their books about Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Here's what I could find:
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"And when there came to them (the Jews), a Book (this Qur'ân) from Allâh confirming what is with them [the Taurât (Torah) and the Injîl (Gospel)], although aforetime they had invoked Allâh (for coming of Muhammad [sal-Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam]) in order to gain victory over those who disbelieved, then when there came to them that which they had recognised, they disbelieved in it. So let the Curse of Allâh be on the disbelievers." [002.089]
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"Those to whom We gave the Scripture (Jews and Christians) recognise him (Muhammad [sal-Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam] or the Ka'bah at Makkah) as they recognize their sons. But verily, a party of them conceal the truth while they know it – * which are written in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injîl (Gospel)]." [002.146]
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Therefore, the people of the book who accepted Islam will have a double reward for following both the previous prophet and Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Those who rejected Islam purposely will meet their due recompense.
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"O you who believe [in Mûsâ (Moses) (i.e. Jews) and 'Îsâ (Jesus) (i.e. Christians)]! Fear Allâh, and believe in His Messenger (Muhammad [sal-Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam]), He will give you a double portion of His Mercy, and He will give you a light by which you shall walk (straight). And He will forgive you. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."[057:028]
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And Allah (SWT) Knows Best.*
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Just wondering...this might be a silly question...we accept that Christianity and Judaism came from Allah...the Quran came and said we no longer need to follow what came before but now we follow the Quran...so whilst Jews and Christians at that time were believers pre Islam...they no longer are now...so Jews and Christians were destined for heaven pre Islam...was this only the case with Judiasm and Christinaity or were Hindus considered believers, Incas etc...was there a seperate revelation for them as they didnt have access to the ehle kitaab revelation or have they always been disbelievers?...did Allah give them prophets?...because it seems strange that only a small portion of the world was able to experience Allahs way of life...
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Sorry, the Prophet (Islam) had no knowledge of eastern religions, like Hindu religion or Buddhist religions, or these religions were too far to disturb him. He concentrated on the religions coming into his way….Christianity and Judaism and some idol worshipping sects of Arabs and determined hell for them.
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Well Anjjan if you read my post more closely i was referring to pre Islam...and whether these other religions are considered belief pre Islam...because yes as you say...Islam came and took over the mantle and said idol worshipping was wrong thus Hinduism is incorrect and then spread a monotheistic message to the World...now did Allah send many prophets as in was Hindusim belief before the monotheistic religions etc?...thats what im trying to get at...hope that makes more sense...
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Very good question.
Muslim belive that many prophets or prophet-like individuals came througout the history of mankind and I am sure Indian sub-continent also had similar experiencee. With time though teachings were altered as human do over time.
However, Quran is considered a book to be preserved and be guarded by Allah.
Some detail discussion related to this thread has been posted in other thread…People converting from Islam to other religeon…or similar threads.
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I would like to see the verse, and the source and also the explanation. Gracias.
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I believe that the script should be understood in its correct context. As others have pointed out, the same kind of message appears in Quran and Bible. At its heart is the question about the capabilities of the messanger, whether Jesus or Muhammad (Peace be upon them both). Some say that if the message is genuine and the messanger is genuine then why don’t ALL people who get the message embrace the faith. In some instances, even the messangers dispaired themselves as to why are people not embracing the faith when it seems the most obvious thing to do. So Allah responds that your responsibility is to transmit the message, and those that get the message and still not embrace the faith, the problem lies with them.
This goes back to the essence of our existence: choice. The essence of muslim faith, as well as all divine faiths is that every human being is sent to this world with choices to make. If they make the right choices and stay on the right path, they will end up successful in the hereafter and admitted to paradise for eternity. If they make the wrong choices and stray from the path communicated to them by His messangers, they will end up in hell fire.
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Thanks Deewadar i'll check that out...
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This goes back to the essence of our existence: choice. The essence of muslim faith, as well as all divine faiths is that every human being is sent to this world with choices to make. If they make the right choices and stay on the right path, they will end up successful in the hereafter and admitted to paradise for eternity. If they make the wrong choices and stray from the path communicated to them by His messangers, they will end up in hell fire."
WHo knew, god was such a bully and insecure...he needs to lighten up. Here is somethng the aboe version of God should learn. Seems to me..4/5th of humanit chose the blue bill and frankly are having a better life. Maybe God got it wrong.
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^ God isn't insecure but it's the humans who should be secure with their morals. For example, if you rape a woman and not feel guilty (which is possible) then you need some guidance. If a religion is teaching you a set of morals then why would you take it in a negative way...sounds kind of insecure to me :-)
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^ yeah but those morals are not exclusive to one interpretation of what God is. No one needs to know what allah thinks but cna still have good morals and because fo their own religous virtues. This is the point. Their is no exclusivity in moral dissemination, as prescribed by manyup above topped off with suggesting the "right path" bullsiht, prescribing an "either/or" phenomenon. for a god to prescribe mandates that even after 1500 years can cause utter confusion among it's adherents and to then suggest that it is this path or hellfire, is comical at best.
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Yep, pick a path, any path. Whichever one takes your fancy.
There is the zero god theory, one god theory, million god theory…they all lead to same place. No biggie.
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Pinny…Do you actually even bother reading others’ replies? I mean, how can anyone learn so little about one basic concept: Belief…
Your better life is materialistically sound for a little while…A flash in the pan of history…To judge the superiority of an ideology on that alone is feeble…Now if you’re talking durability and growth potential, then you’re talking…
Let me explain…Again:
In Islam, the most noblest, most honourable, greatest people on Earth have often lead the most hardest lives full of afflictions and trials…
Even many non-Islamic faiths and beliefs don’t believe the underdog to be the wrong one…Everyone knows about the Jewish plight under Egyptians and Romans as well as the trials of Eesa :as:…
We all know how Buddha, Lao-Tse, Socrates e.t.c. suffered throughout their lives…
Does that make them wrong?
Now, imagine you tell your son to do something for his own benefit…Something you know is good for him…In return your son says, “No dad, you got it wrong…You are full of BS, you are a plague and I hate you, stupid bully…You are so insecure…”
This was your son replying back to you…
You, a speck of clay who will soon become wormfood, turn to the Creator and say that He got it wrong?
Oh Pinny…Tuada ki hovay ga…
Even then He is merciful and forgive your insults and everything you ever did…Repent and become a Muslim…
Or face the One whom you insulted…