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at the nick
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at this guy’s backwards ass statement which is devoid of any fact base, any analysis, any honesty and any sense!
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@Xtron - how do you how the majority of muslims feel about anything? you have no access to them.
It is just like me saying what do majority hindus feel about Kashmir or may anything at all related to our discussion? I think for the sake of subjectivity, we would leave this "Muslims feel" business. Actually you know what? might as well. Whenever we make Dua in our masajids and have seen that in ramadan mostly..it is that the oppression of Hindus in Kashmir is mentioned and of course to pray for our Muslim brothers and sisters in Kashmir. Whether you like it or not, Pakistani, Indian, or Muslims from any other region in the world say Ameen to this. So does this still mean, Muslims around the globe feel the same way? May be or may be not?. But our sharia ask to wage war against oppression or occupation in this classic case of Kashmir. Secondly, since we are two different "nations" Muslims and Hindus, it would be wise to say we don't like your presence in Jammu and Kashmir and may be you do not like our presence in remaining part of Jammu Kashmir hence, you can expect this war to continue.
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Whats with Muslims in England? We dont have such fanatical and ignorant groups in the US thankfully, yet somehow the most radical and openly anti British groups exist in England and are tolerated by the British...
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india is a hot bed of uber violent extremism, often state sponsored. they simply have a great pr campaign. possibly, its the largest backwards ass country in the universe.
dr.lallu please what are your rating machine telling about jannat of the muslims brotherhood PAKISTAN , dunia bhar ke musalmano ka thekadar ?
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[quote=“Xtron But our sharia ask to wage war against oppression or occupation in this classic case of Kashmir. Secondly, since we are two different “nations” Muslims and Hindus, [/QUOTE”]
enlighten about what sharia says about these cases of oppression on muslims
1.bengali muslims of east pakistan when pakistani army killed 30 lac muslim and hindus , what about 10lac bihari left by your country as illegitimate children of rape by pakistani army , are not they muslims ?
2.not to mention about muhaizirs who have been oppressed and humiliated because they came from a kaffir country , because their skin colour is not fare ?
3. what about oppression and exploitation of baluchi people by wiping out their leadership and keeping them away from profit of their natural resources .
4. what about planned destruction of minorities and their worship places by mullas and gundas . do not talk this bull**** of two nation theory indian muslim dont accept it , because they know how the muslims from india were well treated like in the muslim jannat of pakistan , they repent even this day as biggest mistake of life.
when you are going to start your jehad?
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1.bengali muslims of east pakistan when pakistani army killed 30 lac muslim and hindus , what about 10lac bihari left by your country as illegitimate children of rape by pakistani army , are not they muslims ?
2.not to mention about muhaizirs who have been oppressed and humiliated because they came from a kaffir country , because their skin colour is not fare ?
3. what about oppression and exploitation of baluchi people by wiping out their leadership and keeping them away from profit of their natural resources .
4. what about planned destruction of minorities and their worship places by mullas and gundas . do not talk this bull**** of two nation theory indian muslim dont accept it , because they know how the muslims from india were well treated like in the muslim jannat of pakistan , they repent even this day as biggest mistake of life.
when you are going to start your jehad?
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I have been waiting for some indians to come up with these points.
War with bangladesh and whatever happened is still controversial. Especially when indians decided meddled in Pakistani affair and we can notice that the war started to shape very badly. Tells us a lot about your intentions. Secondly, since i do believe in humanity and if Pakistan army was involved in abuse of any kind...i think they deserve to be hung and punish for their crimes. I have no sympathy for them. Because it is un-excusable crime to commit against any population..be it Muslim or not Muslim. Having said that, at least, i am not being ignorant like you goons in Kashmir are, where you indians don't even admit to crimes against Muslims in Kashmir. And try your best to brush it off under the table which you hindus are good at it.
Baluchi people? you love to talk about that eh. Well i believe Baluchistan is part of Pakistan. And as Pakistanis, we all right into whichever or whatever resources part of our country come from. Likewise, whatever resources from any other part of Pakistan is right of Baluchi ppl. No difference. As for so called oppression against Baluchi ppl., i think only you Indians keep your nose out of it..we will gladly sort of problems with people who live in Baluchistan. Again, you goons have only gotten better at meddling in our affairs.
Planned destruction of worship places of non-muslims in Pakistan?. Well i actually do think that worship places of other minorities are being neglected in Pakistan. And not only neglected, but been abused. I do strongly condemn such acts of extremism which runs in our society. My pray for people who were being oppressed by us in any shape or form. And I believe, as our Allah is just. He will ask and punish those who have committed those crimes against humanity in day of resurrection.
As for muzahiris??. You need to tell me more about it. Because for all i know racism is menace which exists everywhere. Not only in Pakistan. Again, i would like to condemn racism and injustice or oppression of any shape or form which exists in Pakistan. And in Pakistan, we are doing very opposite to what we have been taught about justice and equality and hence our people in general are paying price for this.
And lastly, we will start our Jihad against you Hindus as soon as we wage Jihad on ourselves to become better Muslims and correct ourselves first. And until then, we won't be able to wage official Jihad on you.
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dr.lallu please what are your rating machine telling about jannat of the muslims brotherhood PAKISTAN , dunia bhar ke musalmano ka thekadar ?
Actually and interestingly you are right. But there is one flaw in your statement. Which is, we Muslims are one nation. We are called one Ummah. Therefore it is recommended in our religion to rise against oppression and injustice. Therefore, not only Muslims from Pakistan but Muslims else where are equal thekadar of each other. And that is how we are taught in our religion.
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Actually and interestingly you are right. But there is one flaw in your statement. Which is, we Muslims are one nation. We are called one Ummah. Therefore it is recommended in our religion to rise against oppression and injustice. Therefore, not only Muslims from Pakistan but Muslims else where are equal thekadar of each other. And that is how we are taught in our religion.
what you are taught is irrelevant to everyone else. If somebody comes around and claims they were taught that that they should turnover all personal belongings to some cult - will you abide by that too?
Muslims are not one nation. They never were and will never be. Stop deluding yourself
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^It is not about delusion. Our religion is our belief and is way of our life. You can ask any Muslim from any part of the world. You may even ask Indians Muslims of this forum as well. They will all tell you that, we Muslims are united in our cause and not subjected to borders or regions. Secondly, your understanding of Muslims in general is very delusional itself. I recommend you should seek proper sources and knowledge without saying anything about calling someone's religion "cult".
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^ Xtron - I am not calling Islam a cult....read what I said, it was an example. There is no cause, united or otherwise. Muslims are people and their cause like everyone else is survival, family, career success, happiness in life etc.
Do you know how many muslims there are in the Indian military and how many fought against Pakistan/ Lots.
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why should US give a damn about human rights. in fact, they are themselves culprit.
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what you are taught is irrelevant to everyone else. If somebody comes around and claims they were taught that that they should turnover all personal belongings to some cult - will you abide by that too?
Muslims are not one nation. They never were and will never be. Stop deluding yourself
First of all, your example is absolutely flawed. And it doesn't even make sense. I noticed you used " They were taught"..shows lot of about your mis-conception against Islam in general. You probably might not have said Islam is cult however, the way you have given example makes you sound like not only a hindu extremist but importantly troll for this forum. Makes me think that you indians sound somehow emotionally desperate for general Pakistanis to believe your posts or claims and then get fairly negative to anyone who do not believe in your claims or anything that you say anyway.
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Actually and interestingly you are right. But there is one flaw in your statement. Which is, we Muslims are one nation. We are called one Ummah.
If that was the case, Bangladesh would never have separated from Pakistan...
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what you are taught is irrelevant to everyone else. If somebody comes around and claims they were taught that that they should turnover all personal belongings to some cult - will you abide by that too?
Muslims are not one nation. They never were and will never be. Stop deluding yourself
How we are taught is relevant to every Muslim. Obviously a HINDU like you would not understand that.
Firstly, it is not necessarily a literal nation. Muslims may or may not be literally one nation, but there is a sense of brother hood and affinity among all Muslims. There is this affinity between Muslims, that you as a Non Muslim would never understand.
Secondly, there was one nation at one point. Early in the rise of Islam, the Caliphate had, if not direct control over the Islamic states, the allegiance of a number of Muslim kingdoms.
And to assume that there will NEVER be one nation in any form is just a completely idiotic statement. Do you have some kind of insight into the future the rest of us don't?
I mean what hubris. Your ignorance is apparent. Please stop embarrassing yourself.