How High caste hindus treat low caste Dalits in India

Why all the talk about what muslims do or don't?

Why can't you guys talk about what hindus do to low class Dalits?

Obviously hiding the fact.

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I am hiding facts? you're nuts! this topic singled out Hindus when in fact Muslims practice the same thing in a worse way...

No..I agree. But why so many threads on a topic which had been discussed so many times.It is obvious to a try to show some superiority of 'the' religion. So, I strongly felt the need to show ugly side of that religion too. There is nothing to be ashamed of to know the ugly side of anything..what do you say?..Do not forget to browse through that website...

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Retards having a field day today here on gupshup.

Sawal gandum jawab chana.

I feel sorry....... if you have been overwhelmed by so many threads on topics you do not like to discuss.

nice brother.
Look at what you wrote in rise of taliban
"India created a terrorist organization knowingly to control and punish another country for supporting Pakistan and to control its south eastern territory. Pakistan did not inend to control ANY country.
"
How does that relate to rise of taliban. :).
Selective amnesia isnt it.

Of course not,why would you start a thread that would talk about every day discrimination of christains and other minorities of Pakistan. I counter the lame ass argument made in this thread by making a point that discrimination based on race and ethnicity happen in Pakistan too so why single out India. Why not try to do something out this evil and start from our own home. The thread starter had clearly no positive intention to create awarness about this inhuman behaviour but just to make a nation look bad.
I have no intention to post my NICOP number here but I surely get ashamed by reading these various racist and and full of hatred threads started by my fellow Pakistanis. They say young generation is an asset to a nation but the mind set of majority of Pakistani youth is very disappointing.

Well, its all up to you.

Wish you had stopped here..but you chose not to.

Where is hatred against India or Indians here?

Running away from topic is very obvious though. No one sees Indians simply accepting these events and move on.

The thread talks about hatred of hindus against non-hindus.

Please read again.

Who are you to decide what I can or cannot talk about?

What is wrong with discussing vital aspects of Hinduism?

What I really wanted was for you to post something regarding how Daalits are treated in India but neither you nor any other Indian here seems to be doing so. Are you ashamed?

And I already mentioned that Daalit Muslim & Muslim castism is only prevalent in India. Only in India!

Really? I did not know that! Please provide us with world-wide proof, because every time I go to a search engine such as Google and type 'Caste', I get 10 results out of which 5 mention India (right on the Google page), and not a single mentioning Pakistan. Thats proof enough of where Castism is most prevalent.

What is Baraadri man? Explain to me.

You are just picking different names for the same thing and trying to impose it on Pakistan. Castism does not exist in Islam, and is not prevalent in Pakistan.

I thought castism developed out of Bhagavad Gita?

Because you have no idea.

Vital aspects? So if you take out caste, hinduism is dead: is that what you mean.
Manusmrithi is the only book that talk about division based on work (read caste). And nobody worship that except some hardcore brahmins.

This is exactly why I say you dont have any knwledge of present day India. Castism is now in place majorly because certain section demands and wants a positive discrimination for them in every aspect of life. Read reservations.
Do you know about Mayavati, who is all set to or trying to be the prime minister of India. Who is she? Help youself and google.
Do you know about the current chief justice of India. What is he?
Do you know about the former president, KR Narayanan. What was he?
All three are dalits occupying, aspiring to and occupied highest office of the country.

Because there is positive discrimination based on caste people including muslims want to be considered on the basis of caste. If such system existed in Pakistan then there would also be people demanding reservation based on what caste they descended from.

If I type islamic terrorism I will get every link to Pakistan, hence my point that caste takes a back seat in your country where terrorism is a major issue.

I am not saying that India does not have castism. It has but the influence it has on discriminating people is coming down drastically except at times when caste becomes an issue for positive discrimination.

If you say so I have to believe you. But GS gave me an impression that there is a lot of discrimination based on what kind of tribe you come from.
I have many rhetoric questions to ask about Islam , but I wouldnt as this would offend you terribly.

I believe you are wrong. there is nothing like that in Bhagvad Gita.

Suppose a Bali Hindu is born in a Brahmin family and remains as a priest for sometime,and then if he chooses to become a teacher one day,his status will go to Vaishya from Brahmin.But this does not mean that he is touchable and is ostracized from his community for this reason.Again if he chooses to restart as a priest,he can do it ,and he will go back to Brahmin caste!!! In Bali,the caste is decided on one's profession and not by birth.Manu in his Manusmriti advocated the same only but as the time passed on, people had brought in many versions to it ,and became a tool for some people to foment caste feuds

So enlighten us because we have no idea. Clarify instead of hiding it.

Hinduism would be incomplete if you take discard certain things, wouldn't you agree?

Bhagavad Gita does not talk about divisions?

Why do international organizations addresse the Daalit problem so much?

So, why not remove the caste system and treat everyone equally?

Take a snapshot of that page where every search result links to Pakistan & share it with us, because I barely found any, hence your point is invalid & irrelevant to the topic at hand.

How drastically? International organizations still complain about this problem in India and do not mention much about it decreasing.

There may be discrimination in Pakistan, but certainly not pertinent to tribes. Tribes are used to identify ethnicities, like India has many Parsis (immigrants from Persia) and Pakistan has many Mughals (Persian-Mongloids) - both are types of tribes that trace back to another locality, and both can often be differentiated from others by their physical attributes.

In the Bhagavad Gita, Ch.18, verse 40:
The Lord says:
"There is no being on earth, or again in heaven among the gods, that is liberated from the three qualities born of Nature."

Gita Ch. 18, V.41:
"Of Brahmanas, Kshtriyas and Vaishyas, as also the **
*Sudras, O Arjuna, the duties are distributed according to *
**the qualities born of their own nature."

Gita Ch.18, v.42:
"Serenity, self-restraint, austerity, purity, forgiveness
and also uprightness, knowledge, realisation and belief in
God are the duties of the Brahmanas, born of their own nature."

Gita,Ch. 18, v.43: **
"Prowess, splendour, firmness, dexterity and also not
fleeing from battle, generosity and lordliness are the duties
of **Kshatriyas
, born of their own nature."

Gita,Ch. 18, v. 44:
"Agriculture, cattle-rearing and trade are the duties of the Vaishya merchant class), born of their own nature; and action consisting of service is the duty of the Sudras (servant class), born of their own nature."

Gita, Ch. 18, v.48:
"One should not abandon , O Arjuna, the duty to which one is
born, though faulty; for, all undertakings are enveloped by evil, as fire by smoke."

What do you make of this verse:

Gita, Ch. 18, v.48:
"One should not abandon, O Arjuna,** the duty to which one is **
born, though faulty; for, all undertakings are enveloped by evil, as fire by smoke."

I will agree with you on one point, that people corrupted the concepts for their own interests.

Assuming you are right, I wrote the reason why I was discussing India in that thread.

If you read that thread it was actually started in the background of** India creating the terrorist organization.**

Read that thread from beginning..........and the thread it was split from.

Hope you are enlightened.:)

Now stay on topic which clearly says nothing about Pakistan or Islam but highlights Hindus horrible treatment of it fellow citizens in India.

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christiancouncil.in - Hindu fanatics threaten to kill 16 kidnapped Christians in Madhya Pradesh

christiancouncil.in - Dalit students abused for not cleaning toilets in Tamil Nadu

This may help some evasive people to open their eyes.

Its not going to help hiding these crimes.

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Hinduism has caste system and sadly hindu religious fanatics treat low caste in humiliating way.

India has the best human rights rating in Asia and Pakistan one of the worst - according to a number of HR watch agencies - so before taking pot shots at India better fix the medieval customs right there !

Same old indian logic..cannot rid of this bad habit can we???:)

What will it take for you to admit and feel bad about what is written above about Indians ill treatment of human being?

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Racism/Castism exists in every community, country and religion. Instead of accusing others lets try to make ourselves better first.

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^Caste system or racism is not in Islam and is strongly prohibited.

(Read the last surmon by the prophet (SAW) and his life history)

Caste system is an essential part of hinduism. In recent years the hindus have tried hard to hide many many weaknesses of their society or religious teachings so they can be accepted in to maistream religions or people of other religions...prohibiting these acts including christianity.

It is very possible that few bad things are acquired by muslims from hindus and some good things have been acquired by hindus from muslims.