History of Celebrating Eid Milad u Nabi

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if :khumar: were not phoonked, then please mention it before eating.

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@ NomiCA
Aap ki door andeshi ko salaam :salute: & :hug:

But whats your personal point on the issue.

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You mean you also consider it biddah?

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bhai jaan… my ‘‘personal point’’ would emerge from my opinion based on my understanding and interpretation and of religious matters…and NOT based on HISTORY since i am not a student or even remotely avid reader of history…which i think was your intent…

because it is very closely linked with the religous belief/halaal,haraam/right wrong in relious sense… i don’t think you can have a fact based historical discussion on this…

if this thread was about religious discussion…i would’ve may be shared my view…

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bidah e hasana

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Thanks Nomi for your input and pointing out the inter-connectivety issue.

But the first arguent from people opposing the celebration is that was not celebrated in Prophet's or companions' time. What do you think, whether just a thing not being done in Prophet's time make that thing Haram or less important? What are the other factors behind this opposition? Is it due to the fact that it was started by a sect they don't like / follow?

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"The Mawlid is celebrated all around the Muslim world and in non-Muslim countries. In Kenya, Malaysia, Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, China, Canada, Morocco, India, Turkey, Dubai, Australia, Tunisia, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, the U.K., Iran, Afghanistan, Russia, and many other countries. It is a joyous celebration where Muslims get together to commemorate the birth of the Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و ......سلم
Qur'aan recitation, Islamic speeches, Madih, and many other beneficial acts occur in it. This practice was introduced around 700 years ago and it is a good innovation. Just as the dots in the Qur'aan are an innovation (during the time of Prophet Muhammad there were no dots in the Qur'aan), a good innovation. When the Mawlid was introduced, not one Scholar at the time objected or said it was haram. Scholars such as Hafidh (Hafidh meaning he reached the highest rank in the Science of Hadith among its levels) Ibn Hajar Al-`Asqalaniyy, who was called "The Seal of the Hafidhs" and Hafidh As-SuyuTiyy praised it. Some people say it's haram and they have no legitimate proof. Ironically, sometimes they are the same ones who type "SAW" after the Prophet Muhammad's name (thinking it means "sallallahu 3alayhi wa sallam) or say "mA" (thinking it means "Mashaa'Allah)which itself is an innovation. And their imaams/leaders use a microphone for the jumu'ah khutbah, which is also an innovation. Mawlid ♥"

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Catskin

We hear the line in Juma khutba ' Kullu bidatun zalalah, wa kullu zalalatun finnar'- All the innovations leads to astary and everything that leads to astary is in the fire.

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you can have an endless debate on it........... the ones supporting it don't necessarily challenge the proposition that it was started later on........they probably agree that it was started later on............ but their point is the bidda'h discussion........ and other 'logics' and 'reasonings' to justify and prove the ok'ness of this practice...........

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Peace Inzi

While tracing the history of celebrating Eid Milad u Nabi I come acroos these objection put by the scholars at that tme:

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The question must arise, why then are people still acting upon this today if it is incorrect?

As mentioned above previously, the individual who commenced this practice was a king himself. There is an Arabic saying ( النّاس على دين ملوآهم ) ‘People are upon the religion of their leaders.’ For the layman it is somewhat understandable.

However, some of those who have knowledge are well aware that this Bid’ah was not present for 3 blessed generations of this Ummah. They try to falsely establish evidence from the Qur’an and Sunnah for this and form their own Qiyas on narrations that have no relation to the birth of the Prophet . This is in fact propaganda against the pure teachings of Islam, to the extent that an individual of immense knowledge and calibre Imam Jalaludin Suyuti رحمه الله (died 911H) had to state: ( ليس فيه نص ولكن فيه قياس ) ‘The permissibility of Mawlud is not established anywhere from the Qur’an or Sunnah. It is only Qiyas.’ (Fe Amalil Mawlood)

From the above saying we can understand that there is no evidence to make the act of Milad-un-Nabi permissible in light of the Qur’an, Sunnah or Ijma. It is only a forcefully fabricated Qiyas to appease the Nafs.

Allamah Abdur Rahman Maghribi رحمه الله writes in his Fatawa: ‘Verily, the performing of Milad (as a celebration) is Bid’ah.

There is no evidence that the Prophet , the rightly guided companions or A’ima Mujtahideen practiced upon this themselves or ordered others to practice upon it.’ (Fe Shiratil Ilahiyah)

ان عمل المولد بدعة لم يقل به ولم يفعله رسول الله والخلفاء والائمة- (آذافى الشرعة الإ لهيه)

Imam Ahmed bin Muhammad Misri Maliki رحمه الله writes: ‘The scholars of the four schools of Fiqh are all unanimous upon the evil of this action of Milad.’ (Al Qawlul Mu’tamit)

Imam Abu Ishaaq Shatibi رحمه الله writes it is also Bid’ah ‘To take the day of birth of the Prophet and celebrate it as an Eid’. (Al E’tisaam, vol 1, p39)
It is clear that the scholars of the four schools of Fiqh are unanimous in their verdict of declaring the celebration of Eid Milad Un Nabi to be incorrect. How can it not be, as the name of the Prophet is being used to establish that deed wherein, all things are against the teachings of the Prophet ? This is definitely a greater disobedience and disrespect to the Prophet !.

Shah Waliullah Muhaddith Dehlawi رحمه الله writes: ‘The Prophet said: ‘Do not make my grave a place of celebration.’ In this Hadith, the Prophet has prevented any innovation coming into the Deen with respect to the blessed grave. Due to the fact that the Christians and Jews did this very same deed with the graves of their pious people.’ (Hujatullahi Baligha)

The Scholars of Truth in every generation have strongly opposed this act of Milad celebration: Ibn Taymiyyah Hanbali رحمه الله stated in Fatwa Ibn Taymiyyah, vol 1, p312; Imam Naseer ud Deen Shafi رحمه الله stated in Rashad ul Akhyar, p20.

Mujadid Alf Thani Hanafi رحمه الله stated in Mutkoobat, vol 5, p22; Shah Abdul Aziz Muhadith Dehlawi رحمه الله stated in his
Fatawa Azizi, p93.
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*bid'a is bid'a...there is NO good associated with it...there is NO such thing as bid'at-e-Hasanah...it's another innovation of Indo Pakistani Muslims.
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^dude i joined this forum to refute a guy's posts who was in favour of mawlid....he came with a lot of evidences and reasoning and in the end i had to give up. that was the only time when i actually gave up on a debate.

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oh i see...but, it doesn't mean that it's right though! :)

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If I had the time and interest I'd prove it to you....oh actually I do have the time...I've just lost my interest in religious debates.

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i do NOT liek to argue either...good :) thankoo...baHs baraaye baHs nahiiN kartaa maiN bhii :D