bhai jaan… my ‘‘personal point’’ would emerge from my opinion based on my understanding and interpretation and of religious matters…and NOT based on HISTORY since i am not a student or even remotely avid reader of history…which i think was your intent…
because it is very closely linked with the religous belief/halaal,haraam/right wrong in relious sense… i don’t think you can have a fact based historical discussion on this…
if this thread was about religious discussion…i would’ve may be shared my view…
Thanks Nomi for your input and pointing out the inter-connectivety issue.
But the first arguent from people opposing the celebration is that was not celebrated in Prophet’s or companions’ time. What do you think, whether just a thing not being done in Prophet’s time make that thing Haram or less important? What are the other factors behind this opposition? Is it due to the fact that it was started by a sect they don’t like / follow?
"The Mawlid is celebrated all around the Muslim world and in non-Muslim countries. In Kenya, Malaysia, Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, China, Canada, Morocco, India, Turkey, Dubai, Australia, Tunisia, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, the U.K., Iran, Afghanistan, Russia, and many other countries. It is a joyous celebration where Muslims get together to commemorate the birth of the Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و …سلم
Qur’aan recitation, Islamic speeches, Madih, and many other beneficial acts occur in it. This practice was introduced around 700 years ago and it is a good innovation. Just as the dots in the Qur’aan are an innovation (during the time of Prophet Muhammad there were no dots in the Qur’aan), a good innovation. When the Mawlid was introduced, not one Scholar at the time objected or said it was haram. Scholars such as Hafidh (Hafidh meaning he reached the highest rank in the Science of Hadith among its levels) Ibn Hajar Al-`Asqalaniyy, who was called “The Seal of the Hafidhs” and Hafidh As-SuyuTiyy praised it. Some people say it’s haram and they have no legitimate proof. Ironically, sometimes they are the same ones who type “SAW” after the Prophet Muhammad’s name (thinking it means "sallallahu 3alayhi wa sallam) or say “mA” (thinking it means “Mashaa’Allah)which itself is an innovation. And their imaams/leaders use a microphone for the jumu’ah khutbah, which is also an innovation. Mawlid ”
We hear the line in Juma khutba ’ Kullu bidatun zalalah, wa kullu zalalatun finnar’- All the innovations leads to astary and everything that leads to astary is in the fire.
you can have an endless debate on it… the ones supporting it don’t necessarily challenge the proposition that it was started later on…they probably agree that it was started later on… but their point is the bidda’h discussion… and other ‘logics’ and ‘reasonings’ to justify and prove the ok’ness of this practice…
^dude i joined this forum to refute a guy’s posts who was in favour of mawlid…he came with a lot of evidences and reasoning and in the end i had to give up. that was the only time when i actually gave up on a debate.
were not phoonked, then please mention it before eating.
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