I have heard that Hindus have their own paradise. Where all the comforts match that are offered in Islami Paradise, except one. Their will only be One Hoor per Person, unlike 70 per person in Islami Paradise. Additionally, Happy Hour will be very long (about 8 hour) opposed to no Happy Hour at all.
There will be a separate section in Hindu Paradise for Kashmiri Indians (with 35 Hoors per person allowed).
Wouldn't this world be a nicer place if we all just worried about where we, as individuals, were going to go?
Why does a musalman care where a hindu person is going after they die?
Wouldn't this world be a nicer place if we all just worried about where we, as individuals, were going to go?
Why does a musalman care where a hindu person is going after they die? <<<<<
Easy for you to say that Muzna. What about people whose only reason for existence is to send all to Hell. And they make a darn good living out of it too. The way things are going, I wont be surprised if some Mullah started charging people money for a promise of a place in paradise. And I wont be surprised, if some Muslims started paying for it.
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*Why does a musalman care where a hindu person is going after they die? *
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If a Hindu goes to Paradise, then that means the musalman's entire ideology suddenly becomes worthless. For Islam, it is a necessary condition that Hindus do not go to paradise. If a Hindu were to go to Paradise, there would be no reason to have to be Muslim, to reason to ask people to convert, no reason to feel secure in what they believe is right and others are wrong.
Who said only muslims will only go to paradise?
Anybody whom Allah chooses will go to Paradise. Allah has told us in Quran that people who associate partners with Allah will go to the hellfire.. But this is ALL up to Allah's discretion.
Therefore, you will get the answer to your question when you die, not from anybody on this earth.
ALLAH does'nt forgive SHIRK !
ALLAH knows all!
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Allah said in Al Qur'an [Only Islam will be accepted by Allah]. So ONLY MUSLIMS -IF THEY DIED AS MUSLIMS- ENTER PARADISE.
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Only Muslims will finally reach to paradise. Muslims who do not make it to paradise in first shot will have to be purified in "Jahannam" before they are admitted into paradise. The term Muslim is not only reserve for the Ummah of Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH), but all those people who followed their respective prophets in true sense are also Muslims. Example People who truly followed Hazrat Musa (AS) teachings are Muslims, like wise people who truly followed Hazrat Isa (AS) teachings are also Muslims, thus people in all times who truely followed the teachings of the messangers that Allah (SWT) had sent upon them they are called Muslims. As we all know that Allah left no people on earth whom HU did not sent HU's messangers. But in present day scenario only Ummah of prophet (PBUH) are called Muslims. The reason being is after the conclusion of the institution of prophethood the message of Allah (SWT) became universal and for the entire humanity, so all the people in this world should have accepted the message, then they would be called Muslims as well. One needs to understand that “LA ILAHA ILL-ALLAH” constitute the basis of Islam.
LA means “there is no” ILAH means “God”, that is “a being to be worshipped.” Then, ILL-ALLAH follows as an explanation: ILLA meaning “only,” “ALLAH” It does not even say “there is ALLAH”; it simply says “only ALLAH” So “There is no God, Only ALLAH”. Thus people who do not understand the concept of Oneness of Allah (SWT) are in the greatest danger of commiting Shirk. Beliving in more then one God or simply believing in any God is definitely a Shirk. Infact if one reads the Kalima he will find out that there is no God, so do not think of Allah (SWT) in terms of God, Allah (SWT) is not a god, Allah(SWT) is Allah (SWT)
Well we hindus dont want to go to your paradise.Is that our whoel aim in life to enter a paradise where al ur desires are filled? for hindus this paradise come when u over-come ur urge for material desiers...and that is the way of attaining paradise.
It is not our paradise it is ALLAH (SWT) paradise. You oppress your own true self.
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You oppress your own true self.
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Closet Vedantin? There was a guy on the hindunet boards called "Mughal". You sound so very much like him.
Methinks if you had a better understanding of Vedanta, you might not think Hindus to be so bad.
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** Closet Vedantin? There was a guy on the hindunet boards called "Mughal". You sound so very much like him.
Methinks if you had a better understanding of Vedanta, you might not think Hindus to be so bad.
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astrosfan
why do you say
"you might not think Hindus to be so bad."
my dear friend these muslims can say what they like but let me say this,
"US HINDUS ARE SUPERIOR THAN THEM MUSLIMS IN EVERY RESPECT."
Why? because we have a much superior life style than them and have a much better understanding for all other creatures of this planet. We also fully participate in every field to enjoy life before death to the full.
In fact IMHO the followers of Islam are a very sad bunch of people. They spend all their life worrying about after death rather than enjoy their life before death. Specially when it comes to their women, how many muslim women do you know who can take part in sports? or swimming? or go on a beach holiday? or can go to a party and dance? Many muslim women are not even allowed to show their faces to strangers. I know in Leicester (UK) there was a case that a muslim woman boarded a bus with her monthly travel card with her photo on and refused to unveil her face to the bus driver. The driver did'nt let her on. Don't you think when any woman does this in 21st century, it can only be called pathetic.
"ALL IN ALL THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MIND THAT WE HINDUS HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF LIFE BEFORE DEATH. WHAT HAPPENS AFTER DEATH CAN BE LEFT FOR THE MUSLIMS TO WORRY ABOUT."
Sanjhabanda said Hindus are superior WHY
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because we have a much superior life style than them and have a much better understanding for all other creatures of this planet..
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Reply: Much superior life style, No wonder they have 500 million hungry and naked in India prelude to their much superior life style. Islamic Ummah has enough wealth to buy India at-least ten times. Only if all Hindu expatriates are expelled from rich countries of this Ummah (Middle-East) the source of their $$$, and their oil supply is cut off, and then we will see your much superior life style. Best example of Living in the paradise of fools or Jis Thalee may khatay ho usee may thooktay ho. As far as better understanding of other creatures, for that matter you do not even understand your own true self how do you understand other creatures. YEH RIGHT !
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We also fully participate in every field to enjoy life before death to the full.
In fact IMHO the followers of Islam are a very sad bunch of people. They spend all their life worrying about after death rather than enjoy their life before death. Specially when it comes to their women, how many muslim women do you know who can take part in sports? or swimming? or go on a beach holiday? or can go to a party and dance? Many muslim women are not even allowed to show their faces to strangers. I know in Leicester (UK) there was a case that a muslim woman boarded a bus with her monthly travel card with her photo on and refused to unveil her face to the bus driver. The driver did'nt let her on. Don't you think when any woman does this in 21st century, it can only be called pathetic.
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Reply: We accept your great superiority in the above category that is KUFFR. We do not want to be superior then you in KUFFR. You may claim that superiority for your self, we do not care.
NYAhmadi,
So true.
astrosfan,
Fine...your reasoning works if I am trying to convert people.....but why do that?
If I live well, following the true path...people will want to "be like me" anyway.....why make the effort of trying to convince them?
It just doesn't sit well with me. I suppose I am just too content with my beliefs.
I would recommend that before the ummah purchases India, that maybe they should purchase Pakistan, and relieve it of its debt.
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Reply: We accept your great superiority in the above category that is KUFFR. We do not want to be superior then you in KUFFR. You may claim that superiority for your self, we do not care.
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hypocrisy is a poor argument.
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If I live well, following the true path...people will want to "be like me" anyway.....why make the effort of trying to convince them?
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I couldn't agree more, Muzna. Those who are truly content with who they are, and who are following a "true" path, will find that they can inspire others. There is no need for convincing, since inspiration is a much stronger root than bludgeoning.
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astrofan
Thanks for your advise we will do that as well but our first priority is to purchase India, if it is not for sale, then it will leave us with no choice other then taking India by force. That is the only way to protect the rights of Indian Muslims.
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The Indian Muslims can take care of themselves.
I see - the burning desire to take India hovers over the desire to first make sure Pakistan is above the poverty line. This is the great failing of militant Islam - it is worse for the Muslims than for the non-Muslims.
astrofan
We will take care of Pakistan our selves, it was the will of ALLAH (SWT) despite all Indian evil designs, that this land would progress and keep on progressing. Forget about AKHAND BHARAT, which was a dream that never came true. A fallen legacy of Hinduism a great ideological defeat. By the way Pakistan is only one factor in Islamic World. Ridding poverty in Pakistan does not by any way mean that we forget about our Muslim brothers in India. Start reading Hinduism, and find out how you can protect your self. If you do not have a contractual peace with Islam very soon then sword will decide your fate.
how about accepting islam just before death
so we all can enjoy both worlds