Hinduism 101: A crash course in the ancient faith

[system]

Re: Hinduism 101: A crash course in the ancient faith

ak47, the only colonialism is that of the beloved muslim countries - start counting: pakistan (dependent upon the US for security and funds), Iraq (same story), afghanistan (same story), Saudi Arabia (for security), Kuwait (for secuirty)....there are probably a few more.

why is that ak?

[anjjan]

Re: Hinduism 101: A crash course in the ancient faith

@ak47

I got an idea why don’t you ask the muslim peoples what they want instead of applying your ignorant ideas about what they want !

OK, you tell us on behalf of muslim people what they want!

[ak47]

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I don't speak on behalf of 2 billion people you should read the question again!

but the people i have spoken to they agree 100% they want islamic system one way or another.

[anjjan]

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@ak47

I got an idea why don’t you ask the muslim peoples what they want instead of applying your ignorant ideas about what they want !

@ak47

I don’t speak on behalf of 2 billion people you should read the question again!

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OK, you tell us for yourself what do you want!

[ak47]

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If you don't know you'll never know

[anjjan]

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AK, again you have escaped. Look, what you tell us from time to time;
Islam is the best system, but dont ask to show something in practical;
Ask Muslims what they want, but dont judge Islam by the act of followers;......so first you decide for yourself, what is your basic problem, learn someting and then make heavy claims!

[system]

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^ arrey anjjan bhai! jane dho na ak47 ko bechara! he blabbered something and thought noone will persist with him - now he is trying to run away from it, so let him!

[ak47]

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Anjaan you muppet its obvious what i and muslims want why are you talking stupidness and child play no one is hiding and no one is running i can stay here all day long and wip you secualrists all day long becuase your ideals are incorrect and flawed, don't waste my time with soundbites.

If you got something to say then say it don't play guessing games i said it from my very first post hinduism is nothing but a set of rituals useless in dealing with mans problems in life it can only give you an emotional lift if you belive in idol worship that is because you cannot even proove hinduism is correct as a belief from its source. Islam is a political and spirtual aqeedah no other system in the world can claim to have this if it does where is it and secondly proove it is correct system for mankind to live by.

[rvikz]

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so how pakistan is treated differently by allah? does he stop the rain at loc

[nikhil25]

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@ak47

Nikhail the only BS is coming from your mouth the muslim ummah wants islamic system no doubt about it, you ever been to saudi try spaking against the monarach and i will see your body parts displayed in riyadh market ok.

The reality is the US and nations like Britain can no longer rely on their puppet rulers in the muslim lands there time is running out and now the colonialist have returned just like the British raj you remmeber them don’t you the ones that used to make hundreds of hindus crawl on their fronts because they looked at a white woman, or the same british raj that would wipe out thousands of hindus even if they revolted in the slightest!

This idea of 7th century world where do you get your information you really have no idea about islam otherwise you would’nt be talking this nonsense come on give us the same old lines chopping hand of the theif, women covered up with no rights, any more soundbites you have to add because its old hat and dismissed as old hat try something new because its gettig boring.

I got an idea why don’t you ask the muslim peoples what they want instead of applying your ignorant ideas about what they want !

1.5 billion people who want shariah law can’t implement it anywhere in the world?

how naive can you be? human nature would dictate society’s pursuit of the most productive system and beneficial system…and a muslim society would be doubly inclined to such a system (if the islamic system was the one), yet the islamic system is totally rejected in practice all over the world. why?

Anjaan you muppet its obvious what i and muslims want why are you talking stupidness and child play no one is hiding and no one is running i can stay here all day long and wip you secualrists all day long becuase your ideals are incorrect and flawed, don’t waste my time with soundbites.

If you got something to say then say it don’t play guessing games i said it from my very first post hinduism is nothing but a set of rituals useless in dealing with mans problems in life it can only give you an emotional lift if you belive in idol worship that is because you cannot even proove hinduism is correct as a belief from its source. Islam is a political and spirtual aqeedah no other system in the world can claim to have this if it does where is it and secondly proove it is correct system for mankind to live by.

you go first.

prove that the shariah/islamic system is not an outdated and useless system. all evidence, including the practices of muslim nations, point to it being an inferior and un-usable system. there is a reason why nobody uses it…religious systems are not adequate for the current global situation. like i said before, this is no bragging point.

[ak47]

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@rvikz

so how pakistan is treated differently by allah? does he stop the rain at loc

yes you are right rvkiz pakistan is treated differently we must have bad luck or something

[ak47]

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@nikhil25

1.5 billion people who want shariah law can’t implement it anywhere in the world?

how naive can you be? human nature would dictate society’s pursuit of the most productive system and beneficial system…and a muslim society would be doubly inclined to such a system (if the islamic system was the one), yet the islamic system is totally rejected in practice all over the world. why?

you go first.

prove that the shariah/islamic system is not an outdated and useless system. all evidence, including the practices of muslim nations, point to it being an inferior and un-usable system. there is a reason why nobody uses it…religious systems are not adequate for the current global situation. like i said before, this is no bragging point.

Nikil you are the niave one it is not rejected it is prevented can you tell me who supported or even voted for dictators like mubarak, ghaddafi, Al Saud family etc ? when you give me the answer you will find the niave one is looking at you in the mirror.

Islam is relevant for all times for the simple fact it came to address men and women as human beings, not just as a man living in the Arabian desert in the seventh century. It neither addressed man with relation to a particular time or place but rather it addressed him whether he was living a century ago, today, or in a 100 years time. The simple issue remains that a human living today, is the same human who lived 1400 years ago and will continue to be the same human in another 1400 years time.

The fundamental point remains therefore, that no matter what time or place is considered, humans are fundamentally the same, with the same needs and desires, irrespective of any other considerations. Man has problems The fundamental point again is that man, with respect to his needs, and the problems that he faces has not changed; and that any change that we perceive is merely a change in the tools or the devices that man uses when he solves his problems.
Islamic texts deal with man and his problems, and not the tools that he uses to solve his problems, the Islamic Shari’ah is as relevant to mankind today as it was when it elevated the people of Arabia, and took them from the darkness of Kufr to the light of Islam.

Also the point you made about most productive and benidicial system if your talking about capitalism don’t make me laugh otherwise i will have to refute that one in one swipe!

[nikhil25]

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@ak47

Nikil you are the niave one it is not rejected it is prevented can you tell me who supported or even voted for dictators like mubarak, ghaddafi, Al Saud family etc ? when you give me the answer you will find the niave one is looking at you in the mirror.

Islam is relevant for all times for the simple fact it came to address men and women as human beings, not just as a man living in the Arabian desert in the seventh century. It neither addressed man with relation to a particular time or place but rather it addressed him whether he was living a century ago, today, or in a 100 years time. The simple issue remains that a human living today, is the same human who lived 1400 years ago and will continue to be the same human in another 1400 years time.

The fundamental point remains therefore, that no matter what time or place is considered, humans are fundamentally the same, with the same needs and desires, irrespective of any other considerations. Man has problems The fundamental point again is that man, with respect to his needs, and the problems that he faces has not changed; and that any change that we perceive is merely a change in the tools or the devices that man uses when he solves his problems.
Islamic texts deal with man and his problems, and not the tools that he uses to solve his problems, the Islamic Shari’ah is as relevant to mankind today as it was when it elevated the people of Arabia, and took them from the darkness of Kufr to the light of Islam.

Also the point you made about most productive and benidicial system if your talking about capitalism don’t make me laugh otherwise i will have to refute that one in one swipe!

your problem is that you start from the point “Shariah is perfect” and work from there. you are afraid of committing blasphemy, so you twist reality to fit inaccurate conclusions…and you convince yourself that it must be true, despite common sense and all relevant evidence. you should be using the exact opposite approach to making such a conclusion. the concluding statement should come AFTER, not before the analysis.

if it was perfect, it would be ruling the world today…not be rejected the world over - even in so-called muslim nations. right?

[ak47]

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@nikhil25

your problem is that you start from the point “Shariah is perfect” and work from there. you are afraid of committing blasphemy, so you twist reality to fit inaccurate conclusions…and you convince yourself that it must be true, despite common sense and all relevant evidence. you should be using the exact opposite approach to making such a conclusion. the concluding statement should come AFTER, not before the analysis.

if it was perfect, it would be ruling the world today…not be rejected the world over - even in so-called muslim nations. right?

blasphemy what are you talking about, don’t discuss about semantics give real examples of how blasphemphy is commited?

“twisting reality” what reality is being twisted , examples not semantics?

and “i convince myself its true” my my someone is really talking sense NOT!

nikil when you have actually something sensible to say instead of mumbo jumbo which makes no sense whatsoever then let me know otherwise don’t waste my time.

dont try and do a freudian Psycho Analysis of the person it makes you look quite silly give actual examples that way the arguments in hand can either be prooved right or prooved wrong!

As for islam it is perfect human beings are not, try working that one out i give you a clue its a lot easier than it seems.

[rvikz]

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ak 47 this article deals with reformers vs rivivalist

Muslims happen to be the only people in the world who are not quite sure how to order their societies. They are still debating about even the basics of an acceptable shape of things in a Muslim society (school syllabi, bank interest, even democracy) while Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and even communists have moved away from their dogmas, and are quite clear about the future direction of their societies. In fact they are all moving in the same direction despite some differences in their respective given situations.

http://www.dawn.com/2005/03/26/op.htm#1

[ak47]

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@rvikz

ak 47 this article deals with reformers vs rivivalist

Muslims happen to be the only people in the world who are not quite sure how to order their societies. They are still debating about even the basics of an acceptable shape of things in a Muslim society (school syllabi, bank interest, even democracy) while Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and even communists have moved away from their dogmas, and are quite clear about the future direction of their societies. In fact they are all moving in the same direction despite some differences in their respective given situations.

http://www.dawn.com/2005/03/26/op.htm#1

Rvkiz its very simple there is 2 camps there are the capitalists in one camp and muslims in the other. The capitalists have functioning states to propogate their ideology and send out their armies to colonise other lands and grab as much resource and benfit for the corporate companies in the west as possible.

The muslims do not have a state to propogate their ideology which is to spread islamic system. The muslims have clear agenda and goal i presume you are clearly a secularist that is why you propogate your ideas here, islam is not here to compromise with you or capitalism it does not change to fit comfortably with secularist ideals it is here to change the situation to fit islam not the other way around.

Yes the muslims at the moment it seems they dont have functioning system why because the system implemented or should the correct word be Forced in their lands via the dictators and western inteference i.e capitalism does not work because it is clash of 2 ideas capitalism vs islam as a small example you cannot implement a economic system based on riba on muslims it goes against their very belief, yes some muslims seeking the haram benfit have no problem dealing in riba but wholesale it wont be accepted.