hindi films also following hollywood in their portray of muslims

ZZ · November 29, 2001, 7:35am

let me give yet another try to explain for low IQ-ali. first there is complaint on nti-jihadi movies. then when we say 'why not?' he says, 'anti-jihadi maybe OK but why arbitrary ghoonda is muslims' when we point out it is not true, he mixed the two and says 'how can anti-jihadi movie not have a muslim villain?' keep moving in circles.. ali..

anti jihadi movies will have a muslim villain, by very nature. (sometimes even muslim hero, as in 'mission kashmir')

now consider movies which are not anti-jehadi. do villains in them have muslim names. my observation is not so.

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Ali_R · November 29, 2001, 1:37pm

Originally posted by ZZ:
let me give yet another try to explain for low IQ-ali. first there is complaint on nti-jihadi movies. then when we say ‘why not?’ he says, ‘anti-jihadi maybe OK but why arbitrary ghoonda is muslims’ when we point out it is not true, he mixed the two and says ‘how can anti-jihadi movie not have a muslim villain?’ keep moving in circles.. ali..

Don’t twist words HIGH IQ-ZZ, I never said Anti_jihdadi movies are OK!
When you point out…my a$$, what are you talking. Where did you point out what? Where is that example? You mean that Ghabar Singh blah blah. Look, If it’s a burden for you reading all my posts, before coming up with your blah blah, then you are definitely in the wrong pic.
Read my posts above (Post in response to DEEKAY)

You are the one who is

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ZZ, you need another break for at least 1 week. So shabash go and

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anti jihadi movies will have a muslim villain, by very nature. (sometimes even muslim hero, as in ‘mission kashmir’)

Yes?! And the jihadis had Christian and Hindu names

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in the movie.

now consider movies which are not anti-jehadi. do villains in them have muslim names. my observation is not so.

Your observation counts less: Here is the proof: Read 2nd post from ALI_R, high I(ndian) Q(ow) ZZ.
And there is more evidence, watch INDIAN MOVIES.

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kabir · November 29, 2001, 3:06pm

i have not objected to the fact that jihadis are shown .but iam against the fact that jihadis are shown wearing namaz caps and other accessories .and to show them as womanisers is an insult to every muslim how would you people feel if pakistan makes a movie showing dhoti pundit with vulgar dacer or a christian priest doing the same wearing a white robe?

Andhra · November 29, 2001, 3:51pm

and to show them as womanisers is an insult to every muslim<<
If stories are to be believed there are just not womanizers but Boy-Izers as well among them.
Lookup up my post in General section on 72 Houris or whatever.
Seems like Mullah Omar shot into prominence when he stopped two Mujahideen commanders from fighting over a boy

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how would you people feel if pakistan makes a movie showing dhoti pundit with vulgar dacer or a christian priest doing the same wearing a white robe?<<
Why not?

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ZZ · November 30, 2001, 7:35am

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Originally posted by Ali_R:
** Not only jihadis displayed as baddys, even almost every GUNDAA in India film has a Muslim name. How come?

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u said this! And it is not true.

Ali_R · November 30, 2001, 1:04pm

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Originally posted by ZZ:
** u said this! And it is not true.**
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It is and proof the opposite!

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kabir · November 30, 2001, 2:44pm

well andhra you hindus can think no good .i think your hindu terrorist must be missing rambhas, menakas and urvashis after death and they are afraid of being reborn as a pig

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Andhra · November 30, 2001, 3:50pm

Well Kabir,
I am getting my info on young boys from Western press but you still are not telling me if their story about Afghan Commanders in love with Afghan boys is true or not.
Never mind Rambha,Urvasi and Menaka. There are more of them in heaven. It seems to be a dating system from what I read. They have to like you. You can’t force them. No locking up women in Hindu Heavens

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If you want them any body just gotta do good deeds in life instead of thinking thoughts.

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Sehar · November 30, 2001, 5:51pm

Keep personal and religious insults out of the discussion. There are more moderate ways of arguing than going on to argue on a lower level.

Andhra · November 30, 2001, 6:04pm

I agree about keeping Personal and religious issues out of the discussion, Moderator. But if you observe I was not the one who started it.
An appropriate place would be religious Forum with a title like ‘Hindu Indian Films Trash Muslims/ Muslim Pak Films Trash Hindus’
But that is not possible since all Pakistanis seem to ever do is watch Indian Movies

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ZZ · December 1, 2001, 2:05pm

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Originally posted by Ali_R:
** It is and proof the opposite!

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it is ur job. u should make list of 700+ hindi movies in last yr, see them all, and give us the list of muslim villian. or at least see 100 in last month and tell us how many movies have muslim villain.

u make a statement, it is ur job to prove it. otherwise i can say that little green men from mars live in ur nostrils, prove opposite. does not make sense.

Ali_R · December 1, 2001, 10:02pm

There is no offical site which has all the muslim villain names listed. Sorry, man you will have to watch it by your own (the 700+)
I gave you that example of Movie which is mentioned on page 1 if that is not enough, then I’m really sorry.

As for the lil’ green men: Grow up

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Andhra · December 1, 2001, 11:17pm

All right, let me close this discussion by why Bollywood films will never portray Muslims in bad light.Think logically and follow the point.

1.Bollywood movies are produced by greedy,cunning, treacherous, unGodly Hindus whose sole aim is making money.

2.One of their major markets is Pakistan and the rest of Gulf/ Arab countries like Egypt etc.,

3.If they portray Muslims in bad light, people in those countries will no longer watch their movies.

4.Hence Bollywood movies will never portray Muslims in bad light.

Hope that satisfies every body.

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Ali_R · December 2, 2001, 12:33am

Talking about Foreign countries:
In UAE many Indians movies are banned. No showing in CINEMA…need proof? Call Sheikh ZAHID.

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p.s.: This is true!

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maihu_don · December 2, 2001, 5:32am

here i want to make only point and that is Indian movies are obviously not against muslims ...BUT yes movies are anti JIHADI and since the JIHADI (freedom fighters) supported by pakistani, ANTI PAK.
This thing is as simple as that.

Azad_Munna · December 2, 2001, 6:33am

ZZ,Andhra.Kabir

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Most important thing is KABIR ,is an Indian.

Only difference between him & ZZ,Andhra Deekay, is he is a lone Muslim among the other Indians.

If one indian feels differently from 3 other indians on the basis of his being a muslim,it cannot be dismissed just another case of opinion ,or view or taste or 'Pasand apne Apne ’
It is not variation of at random opinion but correlation with religion of the citizen.

If that is the case how can Majority in a country live with this DISCONTENT & live with ease.
Either the grievences of Minority in India is being surpassed,treated lightly or brushed aside with shoo & Puff as it has been in this board.Or not understood.May be argumentatively it may have been satisfied ,but still KaBirs fear has not been proven wrong .
Personally i think stereotyping is an important weapon of hate against anyone AND ON A GENTELEMANLY LEVEL WE SHOULD CONDEMN ALL STEREO TYPING IN MEDIA .If Boly wood is guilty of it ,which sometimes they definetly are ,we can atleast acknowledge it is hurtfull.Sympathy ,empathy doesnt cure or take away pain but makes it easier to bear.

Sare jahan se achha hindusthan hamara

Hum bul bulaine haine inke
yehgul Sitaan hamara

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ZZ · December 2, 2001, 12:17pm

there was another indian muslim on this site, caliph. we dont see him any longer.

Andhra · December 2, 2001, 8:23pm

Well, Azad Munna,
If you read his posts it is hard to figure out what Kabir is doing in India. He seems to be more interested in Other Countries affairs.
He wants everybody on this forum to believe Bal THackeray represents
hindus or Hinduism. If any body wants to know it is such attitudes that creates Thackerays in the first place.
On balance I am bnot too worried. If you observe carefully you won't find one Pakistani Hindu in this forum. Nor do you find much of Sindhi, Mohajir, Ahmedi, Shia points of view.

*Andhra: don't provoke it. Consider yourself warned. *

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kabir · December 4, 2001, 2:55pm

*kabir: no personal attacks. *

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Andhra · December 4, 2001, 2:59pm

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