Nicely said Ajee. Tats exactly what they want. Dont muslims realize they r being pulled into a trap when ever they do these kinda things in public?
If these same muslims rather held a peaceful demonstration their views would be heard. People wont listen if they see muslim children holding guns "ready to die".
they are feeling whats going on arround themm..its very much something which is expected..
cute bacha. 
And I agree with Sheraz CT here.
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Yes it can, unless you believe cutting down innocent hindu pilgrims in kashmir, attacking helpless christian nurses in muree, gunning down shias in a mosque is jihad. Many so-called jihadis claim it is and have committed such act under the guidance fo power hungry mullahs.
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How he fails to mention the killings of thousands of Muslims in Gujrat, and thousands of Muslims being brutally killed and raped by the Indian army in Kashmir... He's just using the anti-Pakistani accounts, and then he calls himself a Kashmirir... Poor Soul...
That moron Sharon would say: He is!
Ofcourse he is Not!
cute kid 
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How he fails to mention the killings of thousands of Muslims in Gujrat, and thousands of Muslims being brutally killed and raped by the Indian army in Kashmir... He's just using the anti-Pakistani accounts, and then he calls himself a Kashmirir... Poor Soul...
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spock jee terrorists r terrorists ..be them terrorists gunning down pilgrims in jammu , or killing innocent masses in Gujarat , killing christians in muree , attacking WTC or killing innocent civialians in afghanistan..if OBL is terrorist , Bush and Modi are also terrorists!
Common Indians dont like enimity and voilence ; 800 million hindus live like brothers with 200 million muslims ( please dont cite exceptional cases, I agree there r a few !)..likewise there can not be any problem in living peacefully (atleast!) with 150 million muslims in pakistan.
For sure , common pakistanis think like a common Indian. Problem is with a small bunch of ppl manipulating sentiments and using them for their personal benefit ; same is the case in India ! To blame is a "small bunch of ppl" in both countries. So, what maula is sayng is right. I hope , I make my point clear..please add/suggest/contest..I want a healthy discussion !
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Yes it can, unless you believe cutting down innocent hindu pilgrims in kashmir, attacking helpless christian nurses in muree, gunning down shias in a mosque is jihad. Many so-called jihadis claim it is and have committed such act under the guidance fo power hungry mullahs.
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I'm sorry, you've missed the real Mujahideen. Here's a real description of a Mujahid on another board:
He is a Mujahid, and he is in a class of its own, far above his counterparts whom he may face on the killing fields. He is not paid for his services, he does not recieve any material compensation in return for putting his life on the line.
He does not get an honorary salute, nor does he get any fancy burial ceremony. He may die or be killed, his body blown to bits, with no one to weep over him and no one to mark his grave. Indeed he may be killed unnoticed or forgotten by his brothers, and Allah will take care of his body and soul.
He does not get any medal of honor or valour or for courage under fire. He does not get to have his name written in a big public wall memorial for future generations to see.
When he goes into battle, his is a one-track mind and his pursuit is of Allah's pleasure alone. His thoughts are the thoughts of his comrades even as they advance across the killing fields, even if there is a thousand miles of separation between them.
He commands either of the Two Victories; there is no defeat for him. If he overpowers the enemy, he has achieved victory, and if he is slain, then he has achieved the Greater Victory. Allah has made it Fard upon Himself to give His aid to the Mujahid if he ever asks for it.
He is the one who's sins are forgiven even before the first drop of his blood reaches the ground. When the swords are clashing above his head and bullets raining down thick, he does not turn his back and thereby Munkar and Nakeer are restrained from questioning him in his grave.*
You've missed the Jihad going on in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Kashmir, which are real Jihads, and there's many more which I havn't listed. The enemy is afraid of the true Mujahid who fights face to face without no fear, looking for the glory of Shahadah, whilst the enemy is in fear, hoping his life will be saved.
OFCOURSE HE IS NOT A TERRORIST. BUT WHY PEOPLE PUBLICIZE ISLAM IN THE WRONG WAY. why does he have to have a gun in his hand. wat are the people who gave him this trying to represent.. stupidity like this has brought harm to the image of muslims. is this wat we muslims are capable of doing. fighting back by violence. this is disgusting. instead of bringing this child up in a good way he is thought to hold a gun. there are better and other ways. we just dont choose to go other ways. fightinh back in not the way. if a dog barks at u u dont bark back. u should do something better.
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why does he have to have a gun in his hand. wat are the people who gave him this trying to represent.. ** stupidity like this has brought harm to the image of muslims.**
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Carrying a gun in your hand doesn't mean you're a terrorist, what is wrong with a gun in your hand? Aren't these little boy blues, allowed to be trained from a early age? So that they'll know what will face them in the future.
Just open your brain, Muslim countries have been invaded, and there is a jihad going on, people should know this, Afghanistan, Palestine, Chechnya, and more, when will you wake up from your slumber?
What you're saying has been exactly replied to by another Brother:
Sigh Typical muslims who only worry about the image of Islam in the eyes of the Disbelievers. Do you think the Kuffar will actually respect the Muslims? Did they respect Islam at the time of the Rasulallah [saws] ? Islam need no progressive boost. We have the Qur'an and Sunnah, and the promise of God's Help if we stick to His Commandments, and that is enough for us.
As for the image of Islam, those whom Allah allows to be guided will be guided no matter how much the enemies of Islam try to make it look bad, and those whom Allah has allowed to go astray will stay astray no matter how much resources and time is spent by giving da'wah.
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Carrying a gun in your hand doesn't mean you're a terrorist, what is wrong with a gun in your hand? Aren't these little boy blues, allowed to be trained from a early age? So that they'll know what will face them in the future.
Just open your brain, Muslim countries have been invaded, and there is a jihad going on, people should know this, Afghanistan, Palestine, Chechnya, and more, when will you wake up from your slumber?
What you're saying has been exactly replied to by another Brother:
Sigh Typical muslims who only worry about the image of Islam in the eyes of the Disbelievers. Do you think the Kuffar will actually respect the Muslims? Did they respect Islam at the time of the Rasulallah [saws] ? Islam need no progressive boost. We have the Qur'an and Sunnah, and the promise of God's Help if we stick to His Commandments, and that is enough for us.
As for the image of Islam, those whom Allah allows to be guided will be guided no matter how much the enemies of Islam try to make it look bad, and those whom Allah has allowed to go astray will stay astray no matter how much resources and time is spent by giving da'wah.
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hey man. ur right if u hold a gun in ur hand it does not mean anything. i was mistaken. we shoul dbe more openminded. according to u if u walk naked in the street ur not naked. actions are louder than words. wat we do is wat counts. ISLAM is not all about JIhad. man i agree with u tat we should stop thiinking wat the disbelievers think of us. but man do u know the best era for Islam werent only based when more Jihad was done. we should fight against anyone who tries to harm Islam and Muslims. but as a nation. not as individuals. not by being as violent. man u are talking about teaching kid at an early age. why don tu educate them. education is the most powerful weopen which we muslims have failed to acquire, forget teh usage.
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we should fight against anyone who tries to harm Islam and Muslims. but as a nation. not as individuals. not by being as violent. man u are talking about teaching kid at an early age. why don tu educate them. education is the most powerful weopen which we muslims have failed to acquire, forget teh usage.
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Exactly Brother. Just as you said, we should fight against anyone who tries to harm Islam, and that is what i'm pointing out. That is what is happening in Kashmir, Afghanistan and Chechnya. And as you said not as individuals, that's why there are Mujahideen in these areas who act in groups, just as a army does, they have a commander, just as any army will have, and they have troops, just as any army has, they have walky talkies, communication links, just as any army has. Education is important, and I never discouraged it, did I? Dont misinterpret me Brother.
And trust me, a lot of Muslims have knowledge, yet what have they done with it, have they used it for the sake of Allah?
majid bhai i agree with ua lot. tat educated muslims are working in companies owned by jews and stuff. ur right. not even 1% of the educated and capable muslims do something for their religion. but again if they dont are they muslims??. by name maybe yes.
how come thoze kafirz r trying to rulin on us(muslim) 'cause we r not following da islam back in thoze dayz when muslimz had fight agianst kafirz. muslimz had fight 7 warz in which they loss only 1 n won 6. da 1 they lost 'cause Muhammad(PBUH) tell the other paighamber to don’t go 4 thingz which thoze kafirz would left after deafiting but when da kafirz run away all the paighamberz came to pick up all thoze thingz which kafirz had left so kafirz came back n attack mulimz n they won da war
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Moral: muslimz didn’t follow the said of Muhammad(PBUH) so they lost 1 war nowadayz we(muslimz) don’t follow the islam n sayz of Muhammad(PBUH) datz y thoze kafirz r trying to rulez on us:teary3:
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nowadayz we(muslimz) don't follow the islam n sayz of Muhammad(PBUH) datz y thoze kafirz r trying to rulez on us
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Very true Brother.
But dont be too disheartened. There are still the minority who are following the Qur'an and Sunnah, the Mujahideen, who fight for Allah's cause, to make Allah's word supreme, and fight against those who fight them. Remember the soviet union? This empire was at it's zenith, and no one could foresee it's demise, but it collapsed, because Allah helped the Mujahideen, against this super power, many miracles occured in this war, if you want to read some of them, just tell me, and i'll mail it to you.
And now the Mujahideen are still fighting, and with Allah's help victory will come. People think victory will never come, but they are disillusioned, the victory will come when the Ummah is ready for it, when the true believers are found out from the hypocrites, in these hard times, you suddenly see some of the sell outs, and some of the true people.
*pray to Allah, to help us.
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Very true Brother.
But dont be too disheartened. There are still the minority who are following the Qur'an and Sunnah, the Mujahideen, who fight for Allah's cause, to make Allah's word supreme, and fight against those who fight them. Remember the soviet union? This empire was at it's zenith, and no one could foresee it's demise, but it collapsed, because Allah helped the Mujahideen, against this super power, many miracles occured in this war, if you want to read some of them, just tell me, and i'll mail it to you.
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only 4 thoze ppl there'z islam in da world now
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yea man tats the spirit. ISLAM is about fighting tats it. it starts from fighting and ends at fighting. right. guys dont u have any other way to do wat u guys want. i wish the muslims can be soo much better. but fighting is not the way. its really not. man why we wanna fight kafirs when even we muslims arent united.
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ISLAM is about fighting tats it. it starts from fighting and ends at fighting. right. guys dont u have any other way to do wat u guys want. i wish the muslims can be soo much better. but fighting is not the way. its really not. man why we wanna fight kafirs when even we muslims arent united.
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We never said that there is nothing else than fighting. But what about those who fight you? Dont you have a right to defend yourself? If someone attacked your house, and did something to your mother, sister, would you just stay there looking for another solution?
If someone invades our land, then the decision is to fight them until they go out. They committed the crime of entering a place which is not theres, and inshAllah by the will of Allah these people will be removed, e.g Americans from Afghanistan, Russians from Sheeshan, and so on.
And about unity, well i've got a simple reply from a Brother:
**unity schmunity
Those who are upon Qur'an and Sunnah - their hearts are unite even over thousands of miles. When I see the muslimeen in any land voicing their support for Islam and encouraging the muslimeen of other lands to up the ante and rock on - spoush I see unity like it was supposed to be. These Muslims are the ones who dont give a damn about nationalism and they wont worry when the borders are erased. These are the ones that remember the other muslimeen in their dua, the ones who keep their families upon Islam -
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yea man tats the spirit. ISLAM is about fighting tats it. it starts from fighting and ends at fighting. right. guys dont u have any other way to do wat u guys want. i wish the muslims can be soo much better. but fighting is not the way. its really not. man why we wanna fight kafirs when even we muslims arent united.
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yop muslimz r not united but in thiz jihad da first of all mujhaedin r trying to unite all muslimz then they wanna take another stepz