Has PML[Q] begun to fall apart?

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I thought it would be more than that. Things can't be that bad then. :)

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Mr. Elahi will be a very bitter man if BB becomes PM

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^ Pervaiz Elahi is already a very bitter man, with massive defeat staring him in the face despite the rigging and maximum exposure on govt run media at the public's expense. Democracy Mush style at its best.

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haha I think the fact that they are forcing govt servents to sit in their silly rallies not even letting them goto toilets is a good example of his bitterness.

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^ Or nervousness.

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PML-Q office holder joins PPP
ISLAMABAD: PML-Q Women Wing (Punjab) Joint Secretary Zeenat Ara Begum has joined the Pakistan People’s Party.

She made formal announcement of joining the PPP in a news conference accompanied by PPP members Fauzia Habib and Nargis Faiz Malik. Begum, who is from Khushab, told reporters that she was a great admirer of the PPP founder Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. PML-Q, she said, was doing lip service on the issue of women empowerment. She said only a few women were given importance in the PML-Q. She said she had decided to join the PPP unconditionally because the party believed in women empowerment. staff report

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\12\19\story_19-12-2007_pg7_14

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Yet more defections:

More defections from PML on the cards
** Differences with Chaudhry cousins inciting defections*

By Irfan Ghauri

ISLAMABAD: Defection of a number of heavyweights from Pakistan Muslim League (PML) has thrown the former ruling party into disarray, with the coming days promising more defections.

The party’s chief whip in the last National Assembly, Sardar Nasrullah Dareshak, has reportedly developed serious differences with the leadership over award of party ticket to Jaffar Leghari, a cousin of former president Sardar Farooq Ahmed Khan Leghari, for NA-174, Rajanpur.

Dreshak, who is the party’s ticket holder for NA-175, has been an archrival of Legharis. Dreshak has fielded Shaukat Mazari as an independent candidate against Jaffar Leghari in the constituency putting the Chaudhries of Gujrat in a thick soup, as they can’t afford displeasure of either of the two groups.

There’re reports that Dreshak might return ticket to the party and contest the elections independently. However, it’s learnt that mutual friends have brought about a ceasefire on both sides.

Another major likely setback to the PML is the emerging differences between the Chaudhries and former defence minister Rao Sikandar Iqbal. Rao has managed to field his close associate Muhammad Afzal in PP-190, Okara. But Chaudhry Athar Iqbal, son-in-law of Mian Abdur Rasheed Booti, joint secretary Punjab chapter of PML, is contesting from the same constituency as an independent candidate.

Rao is pressing Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi to ask Chaudhry Athar to withdraw in favour of Afzal, but Mian Rasheed Group is determined to contest the election.

The simmering differences might lead to the postponement of Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi’s public rally in Okara slated for December 25

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\12\19\story_19-12-2007_pg7_7

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Its like a tsunami. :rotfl:

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He is also a very corrupt man, but that doesn't matter to Mush who has been lining his pockets for many,many years

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Bhaijan, nazar na lagao. :mad:

:slight_smile:

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I wonder what goes on during the intimate sessions Elahi and Mushy have at Aiwaan-e-Sadar?

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What happened to the brotherly love b/w Altaf Hussain and Chaudhry ShujaaT? :hehe:

PML-Q, MQM not ready to adjust each other in strongholds

** No seat adjustment meetings held

  • Sindh PML-Q info secretary says party will lose in Karachi due to betrayal by allied parties

By Irfan Ghauri*

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) and the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), coalition partners in the previous government and caretaker setup, are not ready to accommodate each other in their respective strongholds during the January 8 elections.

Despite working together for five years and claims of contesting the upcoming elections jointly to keep the alliance intact, both parties are at a distance from each other.

No meeting: The parties had setup a nine-member committee for seats adjustment and fielding joint candidates a few days before the announcement of the election schedule, however, to-date the committee has not held any meeting. None of the two parties is ready to give up their strong areas, as they want maximum seats to have a better bargaining position in the post-election scenario.

Both the parties are contesting the election against each other in Karachi, interior Sindh and the Punjab. The PML-Q is opting to make seats adjustment with Maulana Fazlur Rehman’s Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI-F) in Karachi, the stronghold of the MQM, in some constituencies after feeling betrayed by the MQM.

The MQM wanted to bargain one or two national or provincial assembly seats in the Punjab against seats adjustment in Karachi and interior Sindh, but failing to get the desired support it refused to accommodate the PML-Q in Karachi. This development is likely to frustrate MQM’s desire of representation in other provinces except Sindh, while PML-Q’s hopes to win a National Assembly (NA) seat in Karachi is also likely to end in smoke.

PML-Q sources said initially they had negotiated with the MQM for support on two NA and five Sindh Assembly seats from Karachi but later they agreed on one NA and three provincial assembly seats in exchange of supporting MQM on the remaining Karachi seats.

The party sources further said under this informal understanding the PML-Q had fielded only one candidate for NA-239 hoping its ticket-holder Amanullah Piracha would be a joint candidate for both the parties but their hopes died when MQM declined to extend support to the PML-Q ticket-holder and fielded their own candidate.

The PML-Q had high hopes to win this seat but the party suffered further setback when Captain (r) Aleem Siddiqui, a provincial leader of the party, filed his nomination papers as an independent candidate and is now contesting against the PML-Q party ticket-holder.

PML-Q later awarded the party tickets to Raja Shahab Kiani for NA-253 and Muhammad Khero for NA-258 — who both had filed their nominations as independent candidates and now they will be contesting against their opponents including the MQM..

Similarly, on provincial assembly seats of Karachi, the PML-Q is facing opponents belonging to its own allies. On PS-90, Imtiaz Sheikh of Pir Pagara’s PML-Functional is contesting against Tariq Hassan of the PML-Q. Except PS-126, that too courtesy of the JUI-F, PML-Q is not expecting even a single seat from Karachi.

Betrayal: PML-Q Sindh Information Secretary Aleem Adil Sheikh told Daily Times that the party had lost significantly in Karachi due to what he called betrayal by its allied partners. He said PML-Q candidates had not filed nominations in the constituencies where they had reached an informal understanding with the MQM, as both the parties had decided not to field candidates against each other in such constituencies.

He said the MQM had fielded their candidates on all the constituencies including those supposed to be left open for PML-Q backed candidates. He said even in the interior Sindh the PML-Q had not fielded candidates in some constituencies of Sukkur, Nawabshah and Mirpur Khas in order to favour the MQM.

He said had the PML-Q candidates filed their nominations in these cities and Karachi, the party would have been in a better bargaining position with other parties after being deceived by the MQM. He also confirmed that the JUI-F, which was contesting elections from MMA platform, was now an informal “favourite election ally” of the PML-Q in Sindh including Karachi.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\12\24\story_24-12-2007_pg7_1

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PML (Q) clutching at straws now. as they say,

Doobtey koh tinkay ka sahara.

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Every day I wake up to the same person with two nicks to flood the hell out of PA to sink all these threads so that his pro-mush threads are always on top… Pathetic:

PML-Q has second thoughts about gains

By Tariq Butt

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan Muslim League (PML-Q) realists have revised downward the estimated number of seats at national and provincial levels that their party has earlier projected to secure in Jan 8 elections, as the poll fever heats up.

“Notwithstanding our internal assessment regarding our victory projections, my informed objective guess is that we will be bagging around 70 seats in Punjab,” a senior PML-Q leader said, giving his dispassionate appraisal.

Before former prime minister Nawaz Sharif’s return to Pakistan from exile, the PML-Q, flying very high, had envisaged during private discussions to easily get around 130 of 272 seats of Punjab. Later, the approximation was brought down to 110. Again it was downgraded to 90. The pragmatic lot has now put it at nearly 70.

The realists believe that the remaining seventy-eight seats in the province, including two of the federal capital, will be shared by the PML-N and PPP with Nawaz taking a significant lead over Benazir. But they have no doubt in their mind that the PML-Q and its ally, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), would emerge as the single largest bloc in the National Assembly.

“The support of 12 directly elected Federally Administered Tribal Areas MNAs that we will get should not be discounted,” one of them remarked. “In the cut-throat electoral fight, I think it would be fair not to expect a simple majority in the National Assembly and backing of tribal MNAs will be crucial in the formation of government.”

A set of PML-Q pragmatists feels that regardless of their party performance in the elections to the National Assembly, it is poised to clinch a two-thirds majority in the Punjab Assembly. “Even if we fail to form the government at the centre, we will certainly have Punjab, the Senate and the most important, the presidency, with us. We will then see how any non-PML-Q prime minister will rule in peace, as he or she will be confined to Islamabad alone,” one of them said in an ominous tone.

The PML-Q is confident that the good job done by Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi in Punjab during the last five years will pay massive electoral dividends to its candidates. When Benazir Bhutto became prime minister for the first time in 1988, she had an extremely hostile PML-packed Senate, a conspiring president, an aggressive chief minister in Punjab (Nawaz Sharif), and a suspecting establishment. All this made her a helpless and incapacitated ruler.

In the last days of her 20-month rule, she had visited the Senate just once and totally failed to do any worthwhile legislation in the presence of non-cooperative Upper House. The then presidency and the Punjab strongman remained engaged in hatching plots to get rid of her.

Chaudhrys of Gujrat predict a repeat of that scenario if they fail to form a government at the centre. The PML-Q realists think that the MQM will bag around 20 National Assembly seats, the PML-F around half a dozen seats, including two from Punjab of former federal minister Jahangir Tareen and Makhdoom Ahmed Mehmud and former Sindh chief minister Dr Arbab Ghulam Rahim and his group are likely to obtain a similar number of seats in Sindh.

They feel that additional seats that the PML-Q and its allies will gain in Balochistan and NWFP would land it in a comfortable position to emerge as the single largest group in the Lower House.

These pragmatists realise that the independent election campaigns launched by Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto are making a difference for their respective candidates and impinging hard on their party.

They point out that the PML-Q is not conducting the physical campaign at the national level like its two main rivals. They concede that the drive being vigorously carried out by their prime ministerial candidate Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi is so far limited to Punjab.

“In Sindh, Balochistan and the NWFP, our campaign is more focused on the constituencies by our candidates rather than holding big rallies addressed by the party’s central leaders,” a prominent PML-Q leader told this correspondent.

Pervaiz Elahi is yet to spare time to pay even his maiden visits to other three provinces during the election campaign. Its prospects at the ballot apart, the PML-Q as a whole is content and satisfied by seeing Musharraf in the presidency as, in its view, he will be guarding party’s interests under all circumstances. Added to this is the favourable state machinery and a huge battalion of local councillors all over Pakistan, who will make the difference. Publicly, the top PML-Q leadership makes no bones about the weight and power of Nazims, who will help its candidates.

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I thought this Duo are two persons. Doing full time job on GS 24 hrs 7 days a week. Perhaps he has nothing else to do. May be get paid for marketing of Mush. He should understand now that he can not change the minds of people here by posting crape news.