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Dil say niklay gee duaa, Midwest ja kar rukaay yaa east coast tuk jaa phonchay. Kiyaa keh saktaa hoon MaiN
Btw, on a totally different topic, I am having such an itch to go and post in "Taking the Pill and getting pregnant?" thread in Health and Fashion. I wonder if that itch is Halal or Haraam
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makrooh only
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And you said in religion, (oh that damn lobster thread), that if makrook is not haraam, its closer to halal, right
Hmm, you did go and post in that thread. Well you carried it out with decency. I would've picked the lady who said that she was on the pills and even then got preganant and said something weird
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I bet if I opened a thread on teacups, SOMEONE would make a post about Islam.
why open a thread for that PCG:)
let me recollect halaal recommended ways to use it, as I remember them:
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And you said in religion, (oh that damn lobster thread), that if makrook is not haraam, its closer to halal, right
Hmm, you did go and post in that thread. Well you carried it out with decency. I would've picked the lady who said that she was on the pills and even then got preganant and said something weird
moonh bana kar khuja lo.
as far as that thread, u know i thought it was a dare so I went. :D
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why open a thread for that PCG:)
let me recollect halaal recommended ways to use it, as I remember them:
AQ yaar sources please. bisillah I can understand, dua after finishing i can understand, right hand sure, breathing kinda, but they cant be made of gold, i have not heard that before or i may have forgotten.
I am asking as if 50 muggay, katoray, glass of gold paray hain ghar parr, :) but i just wanted to find out about the sources of this info. Thanks
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On the authority of Umm Salmah:razi2:, Muslim reported in his Saheeh the Prophet’s (SAW) saying, "Whoever eats or drinks from gold or silver utensils is indeed filing his stomach with the fire of hell.‘’ (Reported by Muslim.)
Al-Bukhari reported on the authority of** al-Hudhaifah:razi:** that "The Messenger of Allah (SAW) forbade us to drink or eat from gold or silver dishes or to wear silken garments or to sit on silken cloth. He said, 'They are for them (the unbelievers) in this world and for us in the Hereafter.’ (Reported by al-Bukhari.)
"Anyone who melts down gold and silver coins to make vases and containers is ungrateful for Allah’s bounty and is worse than the one who hoards them. It is like using the mayor of a city for sweeping its streets or for sewing garments, or to do jobs which are normally carried out by the lowliest of people. To imprison him would be less insulting. Now, materials such as porcelain, iron, lead, and copper can replace gold and silver for making vases and containers, but they cannot replace them as money or as standards of exchange. If a person cannot grasp this point (through his own reasoning and knowledge), we would tell him that the spokesman of Allah has explained it: 'Whoever eats or drinks from gold or silver utensils is indeed filling his stomach with the fire of hell.’ (lhya al-'Ulum al-Din. Imaam Ghazali: see vol. 4, Thanksgiving and Praise.)
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damn, so silverware is bad?
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As far as prohibition in hadeeth goes, Yes.
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"Anyone who melts down gold and silver coins to make vases and containers is ungrateful for Allah's bounty and is worse than the one who hoards them. It is like using the mayor of a city for sweeping its streets or for sewing garments, or to do jobs which are normally carried out by the lowliest of people. To imprison him would be less insulting. Now, materials such as porcelain, iron, lead, and copper can replace gold and silver for making vases and containers, but they cannot replace them as money or as standards of exchange. If a person cannot grasp this point (through his own reasoning and knowledge), we would tell him that the spokesman of Allah has explained it: 'Whoever eats or drinks from gold or silver utensils is indeed filling his stomach with the fire of hell.' (lhya al-'Ulum al-Din. Imaam Ghazali: see vol. 4, Thanksgiving and Praise.)
Thanks AQ.
just one minor point, I would say that based on new knowledge that lead is avoided as a container for food
PS: I am a little disturbed about the statement of "lowliest of people" and drawing a disinction between a mayor ad street sweeper. to god only thing that eperates is our deeds or taqwa. so while the eample could have been given to make people understand wasting resources, but it just seems off to me. This is coming from someone who keeps Imam ghazali in very high regard
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As far as prohibition in hadeeth goes, Yes.
just checked its stainless steel. warna chamchay kantay phenkna partay
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I do not know man... Perhaps, the translation has to do something with it.. then again that's his opinion and ruling...
You asked for the reference, I provided... If you do not agree with Imam Ghazali's reasoning, the command of the Prophet (SAW) should suffice in any case whatsoever.... atleast, for me it does.
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I am not questioning the reasoning or command,
but the example
it sends a wrong message in my view. it basically is saying that street sweepers who earn halal qizq by doing what they do are lowliest of low.
as I said maybe he used it so people can understand, but it just does not come across right.
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What did I tell you people?
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dunno i usually ignore you,
so what did you tell us people? :)
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YOu know PGC, Fraudia and Anwaar are such laraakoo. Her waqt too too, maiN maiN lagee rehtee hai, in donoN main
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And you said in religion, (oh that damn lobster thread), that if makrook is not haraam, its closer to halal, right
Hmm, you did go and post in that thread. Well you carried it out with decency. I would've picked the lady who said that she was on the pills and even then got preganant and said something weird
lolz... you just did that...:D
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I see your point Fraudz…
On a different note, talking about example, you know Allah:subhanahu: uses some examples in Quran for some types of humans as well… One example is:
7:179] Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).
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YOu know PGC, Fraudia and Anwaar are such laraakoo. Her waqt too too, maiN maiN lagee rehtee hai, in donoN main
So are you telling me the kabootar in the monkey-kabootar friendship picture is Fraudz?
Where's my pigeon-shooting BB gun?