There were calls from the masjid to do suicide bombings and now after lal masjid operation, there were revenge suicide attacks. See the relation?
The truth remains the same and that is Hafiz Ghazi and lal masjid people didn't do any suicide bombings(though they did threat the government).
This thread is about Hafiz Rashid hazi's death , there are so many threads in Politics forum about recent suicide bombings, aap apna ghubaar wahan nikaal saktay hain, I'm sure you'll be welcomed there with opened arms.
Coming back to the truth, there was at least one suicide bomber in the masjid when the soldiers went in. He detonated his belt in room full of students. Birds of a feather flock together, so it is no surprise that we have suiciders out to take revenge for Dada Ghazi.
What a rubbish article? In the midst of firing they had the time to carry 300 corpses. People are so gullible they cannot even tell when the truth is being stretched.
One thing I would emphasize is that Islam and Quran affects the heart based on your intention. Its what you are looking in for it.
Most non-muslims who study Quran to know about Islam is about turn back unconvinced or unable to accept, its only those who come looking for Allah SWT that find him in there.
Coming back to the truth, there was at least one suicide bomber in the masjid when the soldiers went in. He detonated his belt in room full of students. Birds of a feather flock together, so it is no surprise that we have suiciders out to take revenge for Dada Ghazi.
watch him totally ignore this!!!
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hareem01** I am not getting personal, just trying to get you guys to see comon sense. And how u should avoid transgressors let alone praise them and give them the title of "shaheed".
psyah sure opinion is molded by news and our interpretation of it but it doesn't mean that we don't use our common sense. In my opinion it is common sense not to support anyone who is a liar, criminal, and has innocent blood on his hand.
Peace PhatBalongri
Who is a liar? Who is a criminal and who has innocent blood on his hands?
Please identify this person ...
Has there been a court case in this matter to deem this individual as a liar a criminal and with innocent blood on his hands? If not, then by what authority are you making this statement? Of course when you ratify this then I agree with you it will be common sense not to support that individual.
Was Islam in danger in Islamabad that they died defending it? Where they being forced to convert to Buddhism?
Peace Khehkeshan
How about an English lesson!
Now you have sincerely asked for this. An obtuse response does you no favours, not that may or may not have been intentional. When I said, 'dies defending Islam' perhaps you didn't understand what I meant.
Do you think I could possibly think Islam needs people to defend it?
So, I could have not possibly meant it in that sense. I meant it in the respect of people who believe in certain tenets of Islam are binding on them and they give these values and principles higher value than their own lives, then such people I pray for that they are given the status of shaheed.
So the answer to your second question ... of course they were not being forced to convert to Buddhism, I hopefully have never entertained such a ridiculous thought, where did you ever get that from?
Are Islam and the Quran so utterly devoid of inherent merit and attractiveness? If Islam and the Quran cannot attract people today by their intrinsic beauty, what evidence have we for the truth of Islam? Human speech can change hearts. Can the speech of God change no hearts? Can it bring about no change in the world except with the help of the sword?
Peace GoldenAsif
Should that have been the case then Allah (SWT) would never have sent Messengers to accompany scripture.
It is not for the purpose of attracting people to Islam that we should be good. It is for our own sake and a useful bi-product in this is that people begin to see that Islam is indeed a practical order, a beauty that surpasses any worldly system. It doesn't take me or any other Muslim to show that, it is indeed right there in the Qur'an and Sunnah, but if we fail to implement the Qur'an and Sunnah in our lives then that is where Islam will remain - in the books.
while i dont think govt handled the situation in the best possible manner. there is no comparison between ghazi brothers and Imam Hussain and family. Cheap journalism at best. However there is always a similarity between one tyrant and the other, musharrad might resemble yazeed in his conduct. either way, i dont think any good will come out of this thread. why argue about bygones?
Now you have sincerely asked for this. An obtuse response does you no favours, not that may or may not have been intentional. When I said, 'dies defending Islam' perhaps you didn't understand what I meant.
Do you think I could possibly think Islam needs people to defend it?
So, I could have not possibly meant it in that sense. I meant it in the respect of people who believe in certain tenets of Islam are binding on them and they give these values and principles higher value than their own lives, then such people I pray for that they are given the status of shaheed.
So the answer to your second question ... of course they were not being forced to convert to Buddhism, I hopefully have never entertained such a ridiculous thought, where did you ever get that from?
Brother psyah, how about logic lesson for you first? There is nothing to understand, Ghazi did not die defending anything but his ego and terrorist compound. Nazi's held their values higher than their our own lives, so did Communists, and now so do Islamic fanatics. Don't call his views Islam, they are a twisted interpretation where suicide is halal and peace is haraam.
Who is a liar? Who is a criminal and who has innocent blood on his hands?
Please identify this person ...
Has there been a court case in this matter to deem this individual as a liar a criminal and with innocent blood on his hands? If not, then by what authority are you making this statement? Of course when you ratify this then I agree with you it will be common sense not to support that individual.
I think it's hard to take someone with a suicide vest to a court. And that's a figure of speech. I hope you can understand this.