Re: Hadees-e-Qudsi
as usual someone has been giving you information on steroids
i think you are confused about the mainstream position regards to your lot
**Imam Bukhari **(may Allah have mercy on him) writes in his book,
“I don’t see any difference between praying Salat behind a Jahmi or a Rafidi and a Christian or a Jew [because these two sects are kafir like Jews and Christians, even if they refer to themselves as Muslim]. They [Jahmis/Rawfid] are not to be greeted, nor are they to be visited, nor are they to be married**, nor is their testimony to be accepted,** nor are their sacrifices (zabiha) to be eaten.”
(Khalq Af’al al-Ibad, p.13)
“Imam Muhammad bin Yusuf Faryabi was asked about the individual that abuses Abu Bakr? He replied, ‘Kafir’. He was asked, ‘should we read his janazah Salat?’ He replied, ‘no’. He was asked ‘what should be done with him because he declares ‘laa ilaha il Allahu’? He replied, 'Don’t touch him with your hands, and push him into his grave with a pole’.”
(Sunnah lil-Khilaal, 2:566)
“I asked the soul of the Holy Prophet (may Allah bless him and give him peace) [in a dream/kashaf/ilham] about the Shias, so he revealed to me that their religion is false and the falsity of their religion is known by the word imam. When I came to my senses [from dream/kashaf/ilham], I concluded that the term imam, according to them, is just like ‘ma’sum’ (infallible person) who receives inner wahy (revelation) from Allah and whose obedience is compulsory (muftaridut ta’at), and this is the meaning of ‘nabi’ as well, so their belief entails to denying Khatm Nubuwwat (finality of the Prophethood). May Allah uglify them!” (ameen)
(Tafhimat al-Ilahiyyah, 2:250)
“It was already mentioned that the Hanafi scholars condemned one with kufr who denies the caliphate of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr and Sayyiduna Umar (may Allah be pleased with them). This ruling is mentioned in their books with detail as it is mentioned in Al-Asl by Imam Muhammad bin al-Hassan al-Shaybani (may Allah have mercy upon him). It is obvious that they have inherited it from their Imam Abu Hanifah (may Allah be pleased with him) and he knows more about the Rawafid as he is from Kufa and Kufa was the origin and headquarter of the Rawafid. Among the Rawafid, there are many groups, some must be condemned with* kufr* while some not. So, when Imam Abu Hanifa regards the denier of caliphate of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) as kafir, so one who curses him will necessarily be called kafir except that if one makes some difference. As it is clear that the reason of declaring him as kafir is his opposition to the* ijma* (consensus) based upon the ruling that one who denies a unanimous matter (of religion) will be called kafir. This is a general rule among the theologians. The caliphate of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) is a unanimous matter from the time when Sayyiduna Umar came forward for his bayah (solemn pledge of obedience), but it cannot be contradicted with the delay made by some Sahabah; since those who delayed in bayah they did not delay due to any disagreement about his eligibility of caliphate, therefore they used to take his bestowals and used to take their issues to him. So, bayah is something and* ijma* is something else, and one is not necessary for the other. You should understand this point, as some people commit mistake therein. If you object that calling anyone with kafir is conditioned with the rejection of a matter categorized as ‘necessary in religion’. I will say that the matter of his caliphate falls in the same category; since it is proved from widely reported traditions to the extent of ‘being necessary’ that the Sahabah took oath of allegiance (bayah) with him, so this matter turned like a unanimous matter known ‘necessarily’. And there is no doubt in the matter and there was no Rafidhi in the period of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, neither in the reign of Sayyiduna Umar nor Sayyiduna Uthman (may Allah be pleased with them) rather they emerged later on.”
Imam Ash-Shafi’i: On one occasion Imam Shafi’ee said concerning the Shia, “I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Raafidi* Shia.” and on another occasion he said; “Narrate knowledge from everyone you meet except for the Raafidi* Shia, because** they invent ahaadeeth **and adopt them as part of their religion.” (Minhaj as-Sunnah an-Nabawiyyah)
(Some shia at the time of the Alid **Imam Zayd ibn 'Ali **demanded that he make a declaration of innocence (tabarra) from whoever disagreed with 'Ali’s right to be Imaam. When Zayd refused, they rejected him, and became known as the “Raafida” or rejectors. Those who followed Imaam Zayd became known as Zaydis, and have very little difference from mainstream Islam. The Raafidi evolved into the the various Imaami shia sects, the largest of which is the Ithna 'Ashari.)
Imam Abu Haneefah: It is reported that often Imam Abu Hanifah used to repeat the following statement about the Raafidi Shia; “Whoever doubts whether they are disbelievers has himself committed disbelief.”
Imam Malik: Once when asked about the Raafidi Shia, Imam Malik said; “Do not speak to them or narrate from them, for surely they are liars.” During one of Imam Malik’s classes, it was mentioned that the raafidi Shia curse the sahaba. Imam Malik recited the verse, “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are harsh with the disbelievers and gentle among themselves. So that the disbelievers may become enraged with them.” (48:29) He then said, “Whoever becomes enraged when the Sah⢡h are mentioned is the one about whom the verse speaks.” (Tafseer al-Qurtubi)
Ibn Hazm al-Andaloosee
One day during the period of Muslim rule in Spain, Imaam Abu Muhammad ibn Hazm was having a debate with some Spanish Catholic priests about their religious texts. He brought before them evidence of textual distortions in the Bible and the loss of original manuscripts. When they replied by pointing out to him Shiite claims also being distorted, Ibn Hazm informed them that "Shiite could not be used as evidence against the Quraan or against Muslims because they are not themselves Muslims." [Ibn Hazm, al-Fisaal fee al-Milal wa an-Nihal, 2/78 and 4/182]