I saw this thread go on a tangent of family trees and all, so just wanted to make sure we dont lose sight of the conclusion that was reached before it went into all this dramay baazi :)
nice try though- 5 points for effort.
Oh welcome back. I see that the golden jubilee preps are over? :)
btw as I quote you I have taken the liberty to take out the annoying colors,and bolds etc . Never been a fan of people screaming, and especially seeing senior citizens get so mad makes me a little sad. Because anger is so bad for one's health you know. ( idid not have the time to take the CAPS out and while it is considered shouting, maybe being unfamiliar with the net you are less familiar with that so its okay)
I read your post and am amused, as I said, you will try to flame me, and I simply will not fall for it, but I have to admire your efforts still. I had even mentioned my homies in the hood who do smack talk while playing ball, trying to screw uo mygame but they end up with getting owned..anyways.
I am happy regardless, you know why, because my objective is done, and thank you for it. You have shown what you really believe and this whole lectures on values and morals only come in when you need them to deflect some questions.
There was no way I am going to react to your tone and choice of words and even insults and as a result get my post removed by mods. It will stay here, and people will read it.
so lets do this now...here we go
What, anyone "try" to impress anyone on GS? naaaaaah ;) say it aint so.
Wait you think that was me trying to impress you? It appears your standards for what you consider is an attempt to impress are fairly low, but we already knew that..did'nt we ;)
*And yes based on what we chose to post it would seem that nursery rhymes suit my age and old poetry suits yours. No doubt about it :) *
*anyways I am glad you know how to deal with me. You can 'deal' with me, but you have already been dealt with. *
well as they say - you cant teach an old dog new tricks.
I am not trying to convince you, but just seeing how you react to the questions. Think of it as an experiment.
*There is no talk of slaughter, we are talking critique, and not personalities, but actions, whether its in private life, in public life, they do get critiqued. *
you still dodge the subject of critiquing the movies, the shows, and how they dress, act in those. is that still fair game. can we have a real answer than all this running around in circles with eyes closed hands in the ears and screaming approach?
It is still very amusing for me to see lectures about this, while you yourself had some choice words for naseem ashraf, a public figure. so please practice what you preach and not just mouth off things.
*World may start and stop at Pakistan for you, but sadly that is not the case. and there are plenty of writers in Pakistan who write about show biz without using pseodunyms, a certain music critic comes to mind right away. the he did not believe in brown nosing to feel included. Nadeem Paracha comes to mind, oh wait there are many other critics who have critiqued from music to clothes and style to personal activities, *Maheen Sabhee, Fasi Zaka, Saba Imtiaz, Madeeha Syed, Sidrah Haque, Insiya Syed, Omer Tariq and "The Bug" to name some in the music industry.
There are many others critiquing them in MAG, akhbar e Jahan, She, and other magazines and newspapers. True a lot of what is written is tufailis trying to outdo each other in asskissing, but among them there are journalists who have asked tough questions.
*critique is not crap. I mean yes you can take it personally because deep down inside even you know its true but you just cant get yourself to admit it. **I will leave your showbiz people alone the moment you stop your lectures on values and manners here. *
I know it may be hard for you to understand how the rest of the world operates, but thats is how the world is, now..if our showbiz people are going to miserably try and emulate hollywood or bollywood, then they should not have issues with being put under a microscope like the people in hollywood and bollywood are.
lastly, you run to the shelter of oh its bad to critique someone for their personal life. Yet you still have not answered whether it it okay to critique what someone does in their professional stuff, like meera doing that pole dance and rolling around in mud in skimpy clothing. Is it not okay to critique her for acting in it, and for everyone who awas involved in it, director, producer, is it or isnt it?
Oh haunting your thoughts am I? I am not inspired by anyone. only thing that inspired me is that i was tired of your lectures ..your double standards of giving lectures on values while being a part of a cesspool of an industry and not having the guts to say anything there :)
a friendly advise, please go to the authorities about the prank callers, they should put an end to that.
Try,..attempt to get it in your mind. My goal really was not to change what you consider your principles. but to show the selective application of the so called principles. That was done much easier than I thought possible. Your responses though predictable came much quicker than I thought.
whoa conspiracy theories galore. Seems like in a couple of days my questions have troubled you enough that already you are building theories in your mind to expplain why someone can question you. Of course its someone in cahoots with some rival of yours, and not someone who sees double standards and wants to expose them.
And there you go again with the whole Allah Almighty part.
*Allah Almighty probably also does not like pole dancing of Meera and her ripping some dude's shirt off for the entertainment of people. so what have you done to stop that? when have you spoken up about that being wrong. *
laikin bas ji when its suits the purpose toh foran Allah Almighty is remembered. very nice.Thank you, further reinforces the whole double standards that I sought to highlight.
Tell people here that talking about some actors and actresses even if its proven stuff is something that Allah Almighty does not like, but oh no fahashi in TV and movies is something that Allah Almighty does not seem to have an issue with, in your book atleast, because thats where Allah Almighty's jurisdiction ends cuz you seem to be at a loss of words about that.
btw, let me give you a little pointer while we are on the subject of Allah Almighty..hugging and holding na mehram girls..is something that Allah Almighty might not be too fond of. aqalmandon kay liye ishara kaafi hai..
on a second thought let me be more specific.. in other words, stop posting pics of you hugging girls..thank you, or looking at pics of na mehrams or making them your wallpaper on the phone) ;)
*I understand, you also realize that your position can not be defended, so retreat is the best option. I salute your sense of understanding the reality of the situation and try to take your losses and rereat . *
*Of course you are ending your discusion here, you have no answers. As I said, your inability or unwillingness to answer speaks volumes anyways. **This exercise has just proven that. *
The crusade as you call it was simply not about showbiz people, For all I care they can dance naked. the intent was to show the public who you are sir, and the reality of the whole lectures on values. That is now all in the open.
nice one, here is one i like.
A hunting we will go, a hunting we will go Heigh ho, the dairy-o, a hunting we will go A hunting we will go, a hunting we will go We'll catch a pig and dance a little jig *And then we'll let him go *
and
Wee Willie Winkie runs through the town, Up stairs and down stairs in his night-gown, Tapping at the window, crying at the lock, "Are the children in their bed, for it's past eight o'clock?"
anyways, thank you for making the time from your..golden jubilee celebration planning to answer the stuff today rather than waiting as you had suggested just hours earlier.