Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian’s
So rediff.com is a person?
Those with half a brain know that the author is Kanchan Gupta, who is a BJP leader. He is angry because he is out of government.
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Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian’s
So rediff.com is a person?
Those with half a brain know that the author is Kanchan Gupta, who is a BJP leader. He is angry because he is out of government.
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Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian's
India is dealing directly with an entity called The State of Azad Jammu and Kashmir, which it previously did not recognize. That much is true, whatever the state of denial. :)
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian's
LoL man. Whatever makes you happy. BTW, by agreeing to documents provided by the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir, one can say that Pakistan has also agreed to Indian side. :D
BTW, how's life without nukes? ;)
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian's
NO to Indian passports.
Yes, to the State of Azad Jammu and Kashmir
Oh, and bye bye Aksai Chin as well. :)
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian's
^^ Again what are u trying to prove. Does it help u if India renames Jammu and Kashmir as Azad Kashmir. Its just a word.. it doesnt have any meaning. U can go around with that grin if u like.. but there is no mistaking that Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India.Pakistan can do nothing on that. They tried all these years to do.. did it get any part out. And whatever u say here. doesnt matter at all.
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian’s
India has established working relations with The State of Azad Jammu and Kashmir, which is not just a word, but a separate territorial entity.
Is the Aksai Chin an integral part of India as well? ![]()
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian's
**Jammu **and Kashmir. Which part of Pakistan Jammu belongs to.:D .
Dream on my dear. These are only CBM's. Still if u go to Kashmir(IOK) then u will find that Indian troops stationed. So IOK is with India... it only claimed POK. Pakistan can have (POK) as long as its not abode of terrorist(freedom fighters).:)
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian’s
Are you really an Indian?
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian's
I am..:D . Why do u ask. I am not the one who shy away from reality. Thats all.
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian’s
Indian’s just keep on making concessions these days, it is hard to keep up. ![]()
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian’s
Observing that India was a larger country, the Pakistani leader said “thus magnanimity must be shown by it”.
“When a smaller nation (like Pakistan) shows magnanimity, it is seen as a sign of backtracking or buckling under pressure. However, for a larger nation’s magnanimity, it is seen as large heartedness.” he said
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian’s
India is making the right concessions.
India withdraws some troops from Kashmir
Nearly 40,000 of India’s half a million troops in the disputed Kashmir region will be withdrawn to boost peace talks with Pakistan, a news report said. The report came four days after Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh ordered a reduction of troops in the Indian-controlled portion of Kashmir, though he did not disclose how many forces would be cut. India’s army is likely to withdraw two mountain divisions each with 10,000 soldiers, plus nearly 20,000 of the 50,000 soldiers of counterinsurgency force the Rashtriya Rifles, The Pioneer newspaper reported.
Kashmir is a flashpoint for hostilities between nuclear-armed India and Pakistan. They have fought two wars over the region, which is divided between them, but claimed by both in its entirety. A reduction in troop numbers would be a significant step toward reducing tension. The proposed troop cutback appeared to be a response to Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf’s call last month for flexibility over the Kashmir dispute, and his proposal to demilitarise the territory. Singh’s announcement on Thursday came ahead of his visit to the Indian portion of Kashmir this week. The prime minister said a decline in separatist violence had prompted the proposed withdrawal. But he warned he would redeploy soldiers if rebel attacks increased.
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian’s
More concessions from India. It is good to see that India has changed it’s belligerent attitude since Agra, and has conceded the centrality of the Kashmir dispute, as well as carry out large scale military withdrawals.
http://www.dawn.com/2005/04/18/top5.htm
**India to consider Valley troops cut: Musharraf satisfied with talks **
By Jawed Naqvi
NEW DELHI, April 17: India will consider further troop reduction in Jammu and Kashmir as part of key measures for improving ties with Pakistan, official sources said after talks between President Gen Pervez Musharraf and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. The two leaders first met for about 20 minutes at the head of their delegations which in India’s case quite significantly included Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee. They then went into a one-to-one session that lasted more than two hours, thereby delaying a lunch that Indian President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam was to host for Gen Musharraf. Indian Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran described the talks as highly successful, a description New Delhi had used recently for the visit by Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao. Gen Musharraf, speaking to reporters after the summit talks, said he would be returning home on Monday very satisfied with his talks with Dr Singh. He extended an invitation to the Indian prime minister to visit Pakistan. Similar invitations were extended to opposition leader L.K. Advani and Congress president Sonia Gandhi. All three have accepted Gen Musharraf’s invitation with Mr Advani saying he would be there in June. “The talks were held in a pleasant atmosphere,” Gen Musharraf told reporters. “They were positive. There was considerable progress on all issues of common concern, including the issue of Jammu and Kashmir. I am satisfied with the talks.”
Mr Saran was asked specifically to comment on Indian National Security Adviser M.K. Narayanan’s comments earlier in the week that New Delhi could consider withdrawing more troops this year. He said: “When the national security adviser has said so, let’s go by that.” Mr Narayanan had predicated the offer on the conditions prevailing in the Valley after the snow melts along the passes on the Line of Control. If the militancy does not increase ‘wildly’ the chances are that the troops would begin to be thinned out. A joint statement to be issued on Monday is expected to flesh out some of the details of the talks. That the security of the Line of Control has become the responsibility of both sides after the beginning of the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad bus service has been stated by Dr Singh on several occasions since last week. He did so in his two meetings with Gen Musharraf who agreed with his host. Mr Saran said that there was a sense that terrorism was something that could “impact very aggressively” on peace process. He said Gen Musharraf pointed out that Pakistan had condemned the terrorist attack on the eve of the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad bus service. The two sides understand that terrorism could disrupt the ongoing “process that is bringing people together”, Mr Saran said. Dr Singh drew the attention of his guest to the joint statement issued on January 6, 2004, by the then Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee and Gen Musharraf when the former visited Islamabad, and appreciated Pakistan’s commitment in that no part of its territory would be allowed for terrorist activities.
Mr Saran said the entire discussion took place in a “positive and forward looking atmosphere”. Dr Singh ruled out what he called redrawing of boundaries but said every possible step would be taken to resolve the Kashmir issue. Gen Musharraf asked Prime Minister Singh to consider the possibility of freeing Kashmir’s political prisoners to indicate an important confidence-building measure. The two sides expressed readiness to make life easier for people divided by the Line of Control in Kashmir, and to work towards finalizing several CBMs that would improve the situation in Kashmir and elsewhere. The two sides also agreed that the rail between Kokhrapar and Munnabao on the Sindh-Rajasthan border would be operational by December, possibly on Qaid-i-Azam’s birthday. The countries also discussed about the future of people who stray across the border. It was decided that those who have strayed across the borders in recent times would be handed back to their respective countries. The Indian side told General Musharraf that 136 civilian prisoners would be released as soon as their travel documents are ready. Dr Singh also pointed out that India and Pakistan must reopen their traditional transit routes so that the two countries have access to Central Asia, Gulf and other regions. India has placed seven CBMs before Pakistan, many of them specifically for Kashmir. The CBMs would be discussed in detail and finalized later. If agreed, they would together make the Line of Control a soft border, allowing Kashmirs to travel easily between the two sides. According to Mr Saran, the two leaders recognised the fact that there was a need to work towards better economic ties and to find early solution to bilateral disputes plaguing the two nations for several decades now. In South Asia, if India and Pakistan, the two largest economies, join hands together, “it is possible for us to transform the economic prospects of South Asia together”. “In his view this was eminently possible and this was the direction the relationship should take,” Mr Saran said quoting from Dr Singh’s speech. “President Musharraf responded very positively” and shared his vision of the “two countries focussing energies on increasing livelihood of people, common prosperity”, Mr Saran said. Dr Singh presented Gen Musharraf a painting of the Nahervali Haveli in Delhi where the president was born.
Re: Goodbye, Kashmir! say Indian’s
In Agra India refused to address the Kashmir dispute in this aspect, but now they have gone further.
***In this spirit the two leaders addressed the issue of Jammu and Kashmir and agreed to continue these discussions in a sincere and purposeful and forward looking manner for a final settlement. They were satisfied with the discussions and expressed their determination to work together to carry forward the process and to bring the benefit of peace to their people. ***