Girls and Sex

[AnGeL_EyEs]

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@PyariCgudia

Angel Eyes: I’ve met plenty of sophisticated men. But what you see may not be reality. I came across some conversations accidentally when I walked in on some of my guy friends. Needless to say, they weren’t talking about the carpet they were sitting on.

but this topic was about being treated as a sex object/toy…a guy will only talk about u like that if u allow him 2…basically if u give him a reason 2…i dont see men regarding hijabi girls as sexual objects.

boy will be boys…they are sexual beings..that’s how they have been programmed…Even Islam aknowledges this. The only difference is men that are modest will look away when they see a woman…whereas men that arent will stare and drool!

[AnGeL_EyEs]

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@dope

Then tell the sisters to cover up. Asking a man not to notice a scantily-clad damsel licking her fingers is analogous to blowing air at a frieght train to stop it.

When a man talks about women’s modesty, he is promptly reminded to lower his gaze. But these two actions are not simultaneous. One should precede the other. A muslim woman should cover FIRST, and then question of a muslim man leering should come SECOND.

believe it or not…as a woman myself..i agree.

a woman shows modesty is the way she dresses and the way she walks and talks…a man shows it not only by the way he dreses as well…but by lowering his gaze.

[PyariCgudia]

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Angel Eyes, they weren't talking about me in particular I know that much, and I don't wear a hijaab.

[Atlanta]

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@PyariCgudia

Have you girls seen desi men in the malls?? The perverts have baby in the stroller and wife shopping somewhere and yet you find them oogling at young girls. I have tried to give nasty look to them so they will realize…very soon i am gonna explode at one of perverts and someone is goona get hurt

I saw the very same thing at the mall last time I went. It was in Ann Taylor, and I was exhuasted from all the walking so I was sitting on the couches. Of course, that’s where all the husbands are sitting too, since they don’t like shopping. But I understand now why they go anyway…

Each of them was checking out bodies of other ladies shopping as they were walking by. I was waiting for one to check out the wife of one of the other guys’ waiting, but then we had to move onto Ralph Lauren.

Guys are total pigs. Even when they become fathers.

and all this time they were checking women out who were walking past, they didn’t look toward you one time I bet.

That should tell you something.

[PyariCgudia]

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Good, I'm glad I'm not eye candy for perverted 30-40 year olds.

[dope]

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@Sadiyah

dope, it isn’t restricted to Muslim men alone.

Also, in Pakistan, there are numerous men who check out women who observe hijaab/niqaab. What would you suggest the women do next?

Besides, if a woman does decide to dress scantily, shouldn’t a man still try his best to not check out the lady?

Furthermore, men purposely watch quite a lot of inappropriate material on tv and online. It’s not like they’re forced into it, but they do it out of their own free will.

No one argues that men will lose to women when it comes to visual zina. Angel_eyes said it best: Boys will be boys. But my point, once again, is unless you wear a hijab, you are in no position to criticize men for gawking at women. Only hijabis can make that call, not you. Similarly, the men who watch porn and and do not cast their gazes downward should not demand women to wear hijab.

If either sex is not following what he/she ought to, but engages in criticism of the opposite sex for not playing by the rules, then he/she is teetering dangerously close to the textbook definition of this i like to call “double standard.”

[PyariCgudia]

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since when does it say in Islam that its OK to gawk at a girl’s arse that does not have her head covered? read more into the concept of what a hijab is kiddo - its not just a scarf covering you head.

[Sadiyah]

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dope bhai, what should the sisters do who have been stared at in Pakistan while observing niqaab?

[AnGeL_EyEs]

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@PyariCgudia

Angel Eyes, they weren’t talking about me in particular I know that much, and I don’t wear a hijaab.

well i said 'in the way a woman dresses"…this doesnt mean hijaab. a woman can still dress modestly w/o observing the hijaab. however a woman is more protected by gazing eyes when she dressed in islamic attire.

[AnGeL_EyEs]

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@Sadiyah

dope bhai, what should the sisters do who have been stared at in Pakistan while observing niqaab?

well in pak everyone stares includin women. but a man will nvr look at a woman wearing niqaab in a sexual way…mark my words. ask any man on this forum if he would have sexual inclinations towards a woman wearing niqaab. how can u…u cant see her!

[AnGeL_EyEs]

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@PyariCgudia

since when does it say in Islam that its OK to gawk at a girl’s arse that does not have her head covered? read more into the concept of what a hijab is kiddo - its not just a scarf covering you head.

we both know very well that is not what he was implying. He’s simply stating that a woman who doesnt cover in Islamic attire cannot expect men to not look at them in a sexual way. Of course there are some men that wont look…men that lower their gaze. But most men will…especially if the woman is attractive.

It’s quite simple what Dope is trying to say…it’s all in the Quran → men are sexual beings…it is up to women to cover themselves in order to protect themselves from “gawking” eyes.

Besides…if u as a woman (you in general…not meaning you you) were lowering ur gaze to begin with…u wouldnt even notice men staring at u in the first place.

[Naughty_by_Nature]

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All human beings like attention...dont front and act like you dont get flattered by attention...you dress up...go to gym etc for attention from the opposite sex...if a guy says you are attractive dont act like you dont get an ego boost...i wont front...if an attractive girl says im buff then im happy...i dont start whining about...damn shes looking at me sexually...

We see people first...and its not just physical characteristics...its the way a girl carries herself which makes her attractive or not attractive...and the fact is after we like what we see then we speak to you further and get to know you...im met some stunning girls who have bored the hell out of me and iv met attractive girls who have been very good to chat to...but both have one thing in common...i looked at them first...liked what i saw and got to know them...how else do you expect things to work...

And thats how it happened in Islamic times...people saw those that they found attratcive in a physical sense and then approached their families...

The only people that whine about this subject are those who get no attention themselves...

[PyariCgudia]

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it is up to women to cover themselves in order to protect themselves from "gawking" eyes.

Its also up to men to lower their gazes.

[AnGeL_EyEs]

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@PyariCgudia

it is up to women to cover themselves in order to protect themselves from “gawking” eyes.

Its also up to men to lower their gazes.

of course…i already stated that in my previous post @ men lowering gazes

but obviously men dont in particular non-muslim men…we cant expect them to follow that rule. So as a muslimah it is up 2 us.

[PyariCgudia]

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but obviously men dont in particular non-muslim men...we cant expect them to follow that rule. So as a muslimah it is up 2 us.

Isn't this a double standard? So its natural for men to be stupid and disobedient to God and break God's rule, but us women have the ability to obey our religion?

Are u kidding me?

Their behavior should not be excused with "Well, they are going to do that anyway". I hope that's not the attitude with which you bring up your sons, because apparently, its one of the biggest reasons that our Pakistani boys are the idiots they are. Their mothers think its actually natural and okay for their boys to be utterly stupid.

[Sinner]

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@lollypop_man

sinner… pcg doesnt have a crack in her head. all of her issues stem from being dissed by men. bechari. i still love ur posts pcg. much love,

lol .. yeah … she is just _____________ (don’t hav suitable word 4 her lot more batter than mental disorder )

& she makes me luff .. whenever i read her posts …

i donno wats in her mind but definately she is center of joy here

Zalim ] u r rite .. she wasn’t able 2 reply … :roftl: …

[PyariCgudia]

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"she makes me luff"

?

Erm, exactly when are you going to start writing in English that is ... proper?

[LuxuryItem]

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@Sinner

@Originally Posted by **lollypop_man

** sinner… pcg doesnt have a crack in her head. all of her issues stem from being dissed by men. bechari. i still love ur posts pcg. much love,

lol .. yeah … she is just _____________ (don’t hav suitable word 4 her lot more batter than mental disorder )

& she makes me luff .. whenever i read her posts …

i donno wats in her mind but definately she is center of joy here

Zalim ] u r rite .. she wasn’t able 2 reply … :roftl: …

*Another wave of guppies learns the truth. *

[Brute]

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wheres the pop-corn guy -- Im hungry.

[lollypop_man]

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i walk with my gaze lowered so do plenty of other desi men. and i dont initiate eye hitting… but if a girl starts it, i dont disappoint her.

as far as pakistani boys eyeing girls… i have seen plenty of paki girls oogling boys especially at desi gatherings parties, weddings and even at malls. so lets cut out the holier than thou attitude pls.

@AnGeL EyEs

of course…i already stated that in my previous post @ men lowering gazes

but obviously men dont in particular non-muslim men…we cant expect them to follow that rule. So as a muslimah it is up 2 us.