Ghadeer khum sermon and Ummah divide

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Re: Ghadeer khum sermon and Ummah divide

@ajazali

Shia believe that this sermon was an order form holy prophet to make Hazrat Ali(r.a.) his successor while Sunnis believe that the sermon was an advice from holy prophet that Muslims should respect and regard his family after him.

Whatever may be the interpretation, followers failed to respect this message leading to various incidents of atrocities towards family of the Prophet.

As we know both sunni and shia exaggerate on the karbala account and related events, do we have some logical/scientific research done by some non-muslims?

Why are you looking for non-Muslim scholars? Will you accept what Lesley Hazleton wrote in ‘After the Prophet’? The issue with Muslim history is that it was written at least a century after Prophet’s death and western scholars also have to rely on such sources.

Presently, maulana zubair, maulana Ishaq and engineer mohammad ali mirza are among very few scholars who are neutral and had audience but still many things are unadressed from the perspective of shia school of thought. like authenticity and correctnesss of history shia and sunni believes.

Don’t know what do you mean by ‘unaddressed by Shia school of thought’? But I believe they have more material on succession matter than Sunni Muslims. Even Maududi’s ‘Khilafat o Mamlookiyat’ is more acknowledged in Shia factions than in Sunni scholars.

While mualana ishaq is very open to criticism of sahaba for their wrong doings, he also ask shia people that if Ghadeer e khum was to tell ummah to make hazrat Ali(a.r.) caliph, why it was not mentioned in khutba hajjatul wida from which holy prophet was returning.
If we consider shia argument as they persist that ghadeer khum khutba was only for Hazrat Ali’s caliphate then how to digest its implications. first one is holy prophet was not sure that whole ummah would take it as his order at hajjat ul wida hence he said it to a small audience at ghadeer e khum?

May be its not about the size of audience, it is more about representative audience. Who were the audience at Ghadeer e Khum? Were all the three caliphs who preceded Hazart Ali present there?. If they heard the sermon at Ghadeer, then I believe the message was conveyed to the representatives. The incidents just after prophet’s death like power struggle at Bani Saqaf said there were some motives for not getting issue of succession clarified from the Prophet, when it was time to do so.