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It does goto WH eventually as long as enough signatures are there.
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Other than the killing innocent people part this also makes me certain these organizations are just a front. They’re busy targeting and killing Muslims while they don’t move an inch to help those truly in need.
I am also going to completely eliminate using all products that support nations that commit genocide. I know it’s almost impossible to completely boycott all those products because that list of companies is huge and I know my solitary efforts will be negligible even with the support of all my friends) but it’s worth a try.
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I wonder why the Muslim countries are so quiet about this issue?
Muslims shouldn't blame others when its our leaders in bed with the Israelis.
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Other than the killing innocent people part this also makes me certain these organizations are just a front. They're busy targeting and killing Muslims while they don't move an inch to help those truly in need.
I am also going to completely eliminate using all products that support nations that commit genocide. I know it's almost impossible to completely boycott all those products because that list of companies is huge and I know my solitary efforts will be negligible even with the support of all my friends) but it's worth a try.
A few friends of mine are boycotting Israeli products. He found out anything that has a barcode starting with 729 is Israeli. At least some people are making an effort to boycott Israeli products, doesn't matter how little.
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There are Jews who are speaking out about the violation of human rights. There are peaceful protests and rallies one can attend, one recently held in NYC I think. Another group of Israeli soldiers - breaking the silence - they have been informing the public trough pictures and their stories. Reportedly people in tele aviv don't even know what really goes on.
This goes to show that this is actually not a war of two people. It is bad leadership and extremist religious figures on both sides that simply will not reconcile.
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This is not Israeli state terrorism, look at this terrorist attacking peaceful Israelis:
The truth about so called jihadis:
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As far as hamas is considered, its just another idiot organization which is equally responsible for making the matter worse and make life a hell for poor Gazans.
That is what we are told by telling stories only about Hamas firing rockets but what actually happens to Palestinian families, lands, individuals never comes out clearly.
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NYtimes has reported that Israelis have told no (influential) country is asking them to stop yet.
Jerusalem post is asking Israeli govt to keep going till they eradicate hamas (meaning entire population i guess)
Also there are reports that Israel is metioning everywhere that i'd continue the attack till the coalition of hamas and Fateh is broken.
The silence of all arab leaders is really deafening.
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A few friends of mine are boycotting Israeli products. He found out anything that has a barcode starting with 729 is Israeli. At least some people are making an effort to boycott Israeli products, doesn't matter how little.
I'm probably going to go for brand by brand basis. I buy the same things over and over so it's easy for me to eliminate from my regulars.
I did the same with American products for three years after the start of the Iraq war and I'm hoping I can keep up for longer this time ie permanently.
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while these attacks are barbarian, how-come no one is commenting on the root cause? just keep condemning Israelis will not solve the problem
this whole episode started when three Israeli boys were abducted and murdered brutally by some faction of hamas in Palestinian area. Shortly after, Israeli extremists killed an innocent Palestinian boy. In reaction, Israel and Hamas are on the brink of war.
once those 3 innocent israeli boys were murdered, we all knew all hell will break lose for poor Palestinians. last time when hamas and isralie fought, i took the stand that hamas has been responsible for the plight for poor Palestinians. it will always do stupid stuff to begin the tension fully knowing it does not have resources to fight israeli army except useless rockets and in end creates hell for its own people.
hamas did not offer any condemnation of the murders of those 3 boys…moreover the official Facebook page of of Palestinian Authority head Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party has posted a cartoon comparing the three kidnapped Israeli students to rats.
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You can go back to the 3 Israeli teens, but prior to that there were violations by the Israeli gov't. And before that violations on each side. Who started this isn't the point anymore. It's exhausting. Both sides need to agree to stop, and in order for that to happen, Israelis would have to give ecnomic freedom to the palestinians and stop occupying their land, and stop bullying them and stop the illegal settlements. If what the Israeli soldiers are saying, it's a nightmare living in what's left of Palestine.
Then you want to go back into history, you may be reminded of the fact that what is present day Israel all used to be homes and land owned by muslims. Instead of peacefully coexisting and building a community together, they brutally removed people from their own homes.
No people can deal with that. You have some foreign police show up at your door and throw you out of your house and give it to some foreigner family, and you wont feel too hot about it either.
Having said that it's easy for us to say Hamas needs to lay off, but in the eyes of the people living under these conditions, no one else is fighting for their rights, so who else do they have an option of supporting?
There are palestinians from abroad going back that are trying to build what's left, but it's next to impossible. You order anything for a company you make in Gaza or West Bank and your materials have to go through Israeli customs, you may or may not ever get them. Your food is being blocked. Anything you need in terms of materials to progress as a nation, you're not allowed access to.
It would be one thing if the Israeli customs weren't blocking everything normal and non-weapons, and if the soldiers weren't being asked to provoke and cause fights on Palestinian land, and where people weren't yanked out of their homes, with their homes given to Israeli settlers to move in. Then you could say that the Palestinians have no right to be fighting. But literally, these people are being choked off.
And I'm not pulling this out of my butt. For the first time I'm seeing it now, because Israeli's and Jews are actually talking about this openly.
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I wish we learned from history. No one wants a genocide. No one.
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You can go back to the 3 Israeli teens, but prior to that there were violations by the Israeli gov't. And before that violations on each side. Who started this isn't the point anymore. It's exhausting. Both sides need to agree to stop, and in order for that to happen, Israelis would have to give ecnomic freedom to the palestinians and stop occupying their land, and stop bullying them and stop the illegal settlements. If what the Israeli soldiers are saying, it's a nightmare living in what's left of Palestine.
Then you want to go back into history, you may be reminded of the fact that what is present day Israel all used to be homes and land owned by muslims. Instead of peacefully coexisting and building a community together, they brutally removed people from their own homes.
No people can deal with that. You have some foreign police show up at your door and throw you out of your house and give it to some foreigner family, and you wont feel too hot about it either.
Having said that it's easy for us to say Hamas needs to lay off, but in the eyes of the people living under these conditions, no one else is fighting for their rights, so who else do they have an option of supporting?
There are palestinians from abroad going back that are trying to build what's left, but it's next to impossible. You order anything for a company you make in Gaza or West Bank and your materials have to go through Israeli customs, you may or may not ever get them. Your food is being blocked. Anything you need in terms of materials to progress as a nation, you're not allowed access to.
It would be one thing if the Israeli customs weren't blocking everything normal and non-weapons, and if the soldiers weren't being asked to provoke and cause fights on Palestinian land, and where people weren't yanked out of their homes, with their homes given to Israeli settlers to move in. Then you could say that the Palestinians have no right to be fighting. But literally, these people are being choked off.
And I'm not pulling this out of my butt. For the first time I'm seeing it now, because Israeli's and Jews are actually talking about this openly.
check any source....this whole thing started when those 3 Israeli boys were abducted and brutally murdered and hamas not even condemning it.
PCG..i know everyone will yell at me and call me names and what not but only my god knows that i am as hurt as you guys are for innocent Palestinians loss (and yes for those 3 teenage Israeli boys..wo bee kissie kay baita they)..... all i want (just like you guys) no blood but my approach is different and i will stand my ground. When you are weak, when you have a corrupt leadership, when you have been fighting for 60 years causing nothing but plight for your people, you change the course....
fine you want to go back....go back....go back 5000 years...go back 10000 years...prove every Israeli wrong....do whatever you want to do but will it stop this bloodshed that starts every 2 years?
it is not about who is right and wrong anymore....it never was.....since when right shd win just because right is moral...... it is about who has more power....
you want to piss off powerful, you want to teach him a lesson....please do so if you can resist and fight and destroy your enemy and if you dont have to hide in poor Palestinians homes like rats...
otherwise you put your head down, focus on realities, try to improve your situation in given circumstances as much as you can and make the best use of whatever you have ...just like what Japanese did after the 2nd world war
and you think innocent Palestinians love hamas? yea rite.....we are sitting in peaceful homes condemning israelis (which we shd and is important) but believe me if your son and my daughter were getting killed, we will be begging hamas not to do such stupid things
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and ladies nd gentlemen, howcome Gaza has no bomb shelters, the death toll has hit 100 -- half the dead are women and children. The people of Gaza have no where to evacuate to...why? who is responsible for it? different Palestinian govts have received billions in aid in last 25 years..whose mistake is that? how hard is it to make bomb shelters?
let me tell you something more....the reason why gazans don't have shelters is because Hamas built their tunnels underground so that's where they go hide during bombings ..... these tunnels are not extensive and cannot contain too many people but good enough for hamas and hence they simply dont care abt innocent people and there is no need to build bomb shelters for them
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You did not build shelter.
Your fault,… hence you should die in pain.
Great analogy.
You killed three, we kiiled one.
Lets kill more for other two.
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This thread annoys me.
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Some people have no condemnation for an illegal occupation. They don’t have condemnation for innocent men, women, children, who died at the hands of indiscriminate bombing campaign by an American love-child.
Before anyone condemns Hamas or Muslims in General, one should be humane enough to first condemn Israeli atrocities and Western ‘Christian’ world’s failure to acknowledge the genocide being committed by Israeli neo-Nazis against Palestinians.