Further attacks on our honour (women)

As a matter of fact they cannot recite Darood shareef.

I'd like to see some documentation on this one Nia Khan.. I believe you can recite any quranic verse or dua you want with menstruation. Your tongue is always pak (clean). You can also READ from the Quran if you're not touching it. Have someone turn the page for you, or use one of those page turners.

To the moderator of this forum :

Whats your purpose here?
I´m asking you this question because someone here who calls him/her abdulmalick is directly speading munafqat.
How come you dont exclude this munafiq ? Is this because of freedom of "expression" or you just like to insult muslims and Islam ?
I dont wants to get into a dialouge whit people like abdulmalick as it deserve no purpose.
Please read other articles from that person and tell me and other muslims here at this forum why you allow this kind of blasphefemy.

I second what ZII is saying.

I think we need to define whether freedom of expression is allowed or whether only the islamic aqeedah is allowed as our criterion.

Are u guys scholars or PHD'S in Islam to determine whether something is munafiq, etc?

If you're appalled at the hadith that abdul put up, I dont blame you. And I can't even verify them really. They could be one of those false types of hadith. But sex is a topic which was always encouraged by the prophet to discuss in the open in a rational and non-vulgar manner. I dont see anything that was done wrong in Turkey. Its not like they're letting the women pray in the masjid. Anyway, that's between a woman and God. I dont know any woman who WOULD pray during her period. So lets not make a really big deal out of this.

freedom of expression is definitely allowed on this website. If you start restricting folks on the basis of what YOU think is munafiq, etc, than that's just trying to pose your opinion on someone else. Abdul has put forth some hadith to prove his point. If these hadith are authentic, then there must be some explanation. Dont get all worked up becuase you can't figure it out.

To Pyarigudia:

1) The hadiths that are quoted are AUTHENTIC or sahih!

2) The Turks have allowed the woman to PRAY while menstruating and this is the crux of the new legislation.

3) TO bar women from praying, reading /touching quran shows the position a muslim women holds in a islam based on sharia'h.

In time this too will disappear just like Slavery sanctioned by sharia'h disappeared!

Nothing is for all eternity! ESpecially the laws meant for the 7th century!

[This message has been edited by Adbulmalick (edited May 26, 2002).]

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Originally posted by ZII:
** someone here who calls him/her abdulmalick is directly speading munafqat.
How come you dont exclude this munafiq ?.**
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He is a Shia. He is only expressing his religion.

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Originally posted by Adbulmalick:
** Quran & sunnah actually damns the woman as completely & totally 'UNCLEAN' while menstruating and must not pray or even touch the quran! Turkey is the first muslim country to openly break / reject that tradition.**

Do you know the meaning of 'damning'? if yes, please clarify where do the Quran and Sunna damn the woman? Yes they do regard women as 'unclean' w.r.t. praying but thats not "damning".

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Maybe - Bukhari did not completely understand the above verse when he was busy compiling the sayings of the prophet; see for yourself:

perhaps you didn't have enough IQ understand what hadith meant
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Bukhari sure was infatuated with the subject of menses because he has collected a whole bunch of sahih hadiths on the matter.

yeah, and if these hadith were not there, you'd be jumping around the whole world saying that hadith does not cover topic of menstruation. someone passing knowledge/facts and you have problems?

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