For they are created from a bent rib

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Re: For they are created from a bent rib

pcg.. samjho chore dia.

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Adam’s soul inhabited him only after his physical (corporeal) creation… so if Adam was ‘soul only’ when Eve was created it means Eve had already been created before Adam ‘the man’ (i.e. body and soul) or ‘person’ came about?? And no, I don’t agree with the line about transference of the same soul or a portion of it(!) through the rib… people have their own souls…

the creation of a person does not have to imply physical creation, but begins with the creation of their souls. here is one instance where Quran talks about the primordial covenant of our souls with Allah:

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YUSUFALI: When thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves, (saying): “Am I not your Lord (who cherishes and sustains you)?”- They said: “Yea! We do testify!” (This), lest ye should say on the Day of Judgment: “Of this we were never mindful”:
PICKTHAL: And (remember) when thy Lord brought forth from the Children of Adam, from their reins, their seed, and made them testify of themselves, (saying): Am I not your Lord? They said: Yea, verily. We testify. (That was) lest ye should say at the Day of Resurrection: Lo! of this we were unaware;
SHAKIR: And when your Lord brought forth from the children of Adam, from their backs, their descendants, and made them bear witness against their own souls: Am I not your Lord? They said: Yes! we bear witness. Lest you should say on the day of resurrection: Surely we were heedless of this.

now if you are to go with the “soul” translation, then the meaning would be that Adam and Eve were created from the same soul. Having the same origin does not mean that they had the same soul post creation, just as saying that Allah breathed His spirit into man doesnt mean that we (nauzubillah) have the same spirit as Allah. their souls shared a common origin, the physical embodiment of these two souls might’ve been done through Allah’s will.

if you feel uncomfortable with soul, then “nature” or “essence” would suffice. but the reason most translations have gone with either soul or essence, i would think, is because of the pronoun, “minhaa”. if the source of Havva’s creation was male, why would the pronoun by minhaa? The creation (Adam) was mentioned implicitly in the same sentence, there would be a switch of pronouns if Adam was the intended target.

at any rate, I think this discussion has run its course.