For how long will Australian dominance last?

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if the umpires had been fair and impartial then aussies would not have had such a high winning ratio

they have often cheated to win especially against pakistan and india. THEY ARE CHEATS

take for example:

2nd test against pak at hobart 1999

tendu given out shoulder before wicket in 1999, and several other dubious lbw decisions against tendu iN AUS IN 1999 and 2003

house slave bucknor's pathetic umpiring saved aus from test defeat to india in 2004. bucknor has to lick the boots of his White masters to remain on ICC elite panel

in the holland cup final 2004, youhana and inzi were both wrongly given out

gilchrist not given out lbw when it was plumb by racist Koertzen. and several biased decisions against Pak in VB series final 2005

Even today the White umpires tried to rescue the aussie cheats by allowing Mcgrath to bowl 2 bouncers in the 2nd last over.
Racist hypocrites

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All good things must come to end... :(

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^^ completely agreed.. i guess the time has come for the mighty aussies to surrender the ashes to England and become a "normal" cricket team. I think this will be a good thing in a way.. there will actually be competition instead of complete destruction and embarrasment for the opponents.

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and one more dent in Aussie record … girti howi deewaar ko ek dhakkaa aur do :k:

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I was watching a cricket affairs programme a couple of weeks back and they were doing a profile of the full Aussie team. I was shocked that 99% were over 30.

My natural instinct told me that this team is too old

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A nice insight.

Lillee fears for Australia’s pacemen](http://content.cricinfo.com/engvaus/content/story/211953.html)

Australia’s 10-wicket rout of Bangladesh on Saturday was proof that they have put their early-tour jitters to one side, but Dennis Lillee, arguably the greatest Australian fast bowler of all, remains concerned about the depth and longevity of the nation’s fast bowlers.

Lillee, who was Cricket Australia’s pace-bowling mentor until the end of last year, believes that too little is being done to ensure that Glenn McGrath, Jason Gillespie and Mike Kasprowicz have worthy successors when their eventual retirements come. At present they have a combined age of 98 and 849 Test wickets between them, but Lillee is well aware that they cannot go on forever.

“I haven’t seen anything put back in place for the young fast bowlers of Australia. That’s worrying,” Lillee told The Australian newspaper. “That was why the whole Pace Australia [bowling programme] was set up. I hope something is in place because we are facing the same situation we faced 14 to 15 years ago when I came on board.”

Lillee’s services were first called upon in the 1990s when Merv Hughes and Craig McDermott were the willing but ageing spearheads of the Australian pace attack. McGrath’s coming-of-age, on the seminal 1994-95 tour of West Indies, ensured that the new ball has been in good hands ever since, but the next generation has few stand-out stars at present. Brett Lee, 28, has some time on his side, with the 22-year-old Shaun Tait promising to be the best of the rest.

Cricket Australia, however, remain adamant that the succession is going to plan, even since Lillee’s departure. “The national pace bowling program is an integral part of Australia’s high performance system,” said a CA spokesman. “Further appointments to the national pace bowling program are expected to be announced in due course.”

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The age of their team is definitely at the high end, but the way they have been able to mesh new batsmen in the team, suggests that they can do the same with new bowlers too. You have to remember that the biggest factor in Aussie success is an amazing system of finding talented players, and with top-class training, turning them into highly reliable and competitive players of international level. Aussies are a sports-hungry nation. I am sure they will keep feeding top class players to their cricket team. And once in their international side, the players are gelled together with experienced folks to make for a winning team. Its all a matter of top-class management and professional attitude. You can hate them for their arrogance, but you gotta salute them for being top-class performers.

Instead of waiting for Aussies to crumble because of age, other teams will be better off, if they focus on increasing their own training and talent-hunting programs. They need to come up with better and consistent performance to catch up with Team Australia.

I don't see the dominance ending any time soon. A few hiccups here and there, notwithstanding.

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I think in the ODI's the Aussie dominance will end soon. The problem is not so much in their batting but their bowling is starting to loose it's penetration. Lee is the only one coming of age and showing signs of improvements with every game he plays. MnGrath is not as nippy as he use to be and basically he was their main weapon that kept one end so freakin quiet that teams had to try and score from the other end of giving wickets to big foot Gillispe. Shame Warne has already announced his retirement from ODI's and Hogg is not of the same calibere. Andrew Symonds and Micheal Clark are both more or less batting all rounders. I think the furher weaking of their bowling will definatley give a chance to teams like India, South Africa, England to go after big totals or set imposing totals. Pakistan can ofcourse go for it as well but since our batting line up is not so reliable so until we solve that I think we need to not concentrate on beating Australia but acheiving scuccess on a regular basis with consistancy from the top order.

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LahoriMunda, welcome back....I did not see you for a very long time ( at least at KK forum)...keep posting at KK forum too....

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LM, good to see you.

I agree with you regarding Aussie bowling. Their support bowlers kinda suck and that is where they have lost quite a few LOIs of late.

Faisal-- Their test dominance is not in imminent danger because of warne and Mcgrath factor but as long as they play likes of Watson on consistent basis they will lose more and more LOIs

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This series was NOT a minor hiccup but a signal that other teams specially England have caught up with aussies.

Welcome back to earth, aussies.

I can anticipate when Mcgrath warne call it a day, it will be an open-to-all inviation for other teams with this bowling attack :hehe:

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This is an interesting phase for aussies. Some players are definately ageing. No wholesale changes expected but likes of Gillespie, Martyn, Hayden (even if he scored a hundred in last match) are defiantley in danger of being dropped. Slight transition will take place. Their batsmen will come through with the likes of Clarke and Brad Hodghe BUT their bowling, unfortuantely An attack spearheaded by Lee (with all due respect) doesnt scare many teams.

How long will Aussies dominance in both forms of cricket continue..

Are we going to see a change of fortunes in the top rankings after the WorldCup 2007 ? ....as Mcgrath,Warne are not likely to be there , are their bench-strength good enough to keep the No 1 ranking ? ...already Players like Hussey ,Symonds,Clark have established themselves...does the future look rosy for the Aussies ?

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Australia is a great team, the best, and yes they are losing some of their veterans but they've got a lot of talent and passion for cricket and a handful of players have already stood up the ocassion like you mentioned...im not sure if they will dominate like they've done for so many years, but they will always remain a very competitive side. They also have an awesome captain who is great on the field and now it seems like he's hitting centuries at will.

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I'm putting my money o n Hussey

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^ no kidding! the whole 25 cents? Save some for the future :-)

The new 'boys' who actually make it to the Aussie team are actually 'men' who have been through the drill in domestic cricket. Aussies are way ahead in batting and fielding. Howerver, I don't see any emerging bowling superstars though.

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The gap has been closing of late between Aussies and other nations. Just look at 1st Test of BD vs Auss, in first inning BD scored 427 against Lee, Warne, McGill etc and Aus were bundled out for 269 or so. Of course then Aussies made a come back but it showed that they are not as powerful to stay dominant for full 5 days against BD. After WC'07 lots of players are expected to leave Aus team (esp good ones) which will leave a bigger hole and further close the gap with other teams.

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The kind of cricket infrasturcture Australia has they will be very strong side for a very long period of time. Question is will they be as dominant as they are today. IMHO, Probably NOT. With departure of Macgrath,Gillespie, Warne and Gillie in next 1-2 year , it will be hard to fill those shoes. Macgil is also old and will be able to play only another 2 years after Warne retires. I am sure their domestic cricket will bring in some other fats bowler who are good but may not be as good as Macgrath.

Batting prospect are better, Hussey, Clarke and Symonds will be able to fill gaps created by hayden,ponting martyn when they retired in next 2-3 years.

So, will say they will be top 3 teams for next 10 years and may be No 1 for next 2-3 years. But gap between 1 and 2 will keep filling.

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not very long..especially in the test matches..their bowling is what it used to
be with mcgrath out and gilespie losing form..i think they will continue to dominate one day cricket for some time,but their decline in test cricket has started and teams like Pakistan,England and India might catch up with them in one or 2 years