First Squadron of JF-17 Thunder inducted in PAF

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it was pakistani forces that invaded first, indians intervened later. there was no plebiscite. it is disputed even now, and will remain same unless we dont start talking each other. like pakistani believes kashmir belongs to pakistan, we believe it belongs to us.

It was NOT the Pakistani forces but the local tribals who made advances into kashmir as they heard rumours Maharaja was going to decide for the union with India. Pakistani Forces came later than indians forces and were delayed even because General Gracey was not obeying the orders of Governer General Of Pakistan to assist the tribals and take Kashmir. Indian Forces illegally intervened (in an open, official capacity) as Jammu and Kashmir officially had not joined the Union of India.

even if you have good relations, you should have might to defend yourself, we have good relation with sri lanka and bangladesh as well, your millitary is mainly india centric, look at the name of your missiles, they are all name of those barbaric and uncivilized afgans and turks who invaded india, none of the indian missiles name is “shivaji or rana pratap or gobind singh”
its pakisan that hate india more then vice versa.

Indian has sponsored terrorism in Srilanka (through LTTE) and East Pakistan (through Mukti-Bahini) and now has border skirmishes with Bangladesh.

Pakistan’s Military is India-centric because Indian is the only threat to Pakistan and to the region, Indian cannot maintain good dialogue and relations with its neighbours less Nepal. The names of Pakistani Missiles are of Mulsim generals and heroes and calling them barbaric or uncivilized is ignorance on your part, and i know it pinches because most of them had success on Hindu heroes which have named as Indian Missiles.
Indians actions and back stabbing tactics has made it a country to be hated by not just Pakistan but China,SriLanka and Bangladesh too.

it was question that was asked and vice cheif stated accordingly, intrusion of MiG 29s(No. 28 squadron “first supersonics”) was raised in indian media, remember one thing here, soldiers (pakistani, indians or israeli) dont fear death. government told IAF officers to be quite as govt was going diplomatically against pakistan. in india millitary takes order, it doesnt dictated terms.

Exactly, The Mig-29 (of whichever IAF aircraft it was) turned back once locked on by PAF F-16’s and the hue and cry in media died down afterwards. Its ironic, Claims by India media cannot be upheld by its Armed Forces and vice verca.

indians make their acquisition public so that people of country should not fall into hand of propagandists and should know our actual strength, you will never find an indian claming that indians are powerful than chinese.
and one more thing I know IAF personnel very well they dont fear death, they play with it daily.
like you are sure i am also sure no such footage was ever given to indians

This is just ur own opinion so i will disregard it.Indian people fall into the hands of propagandists aka Indian media who make hot air of everything and blame Pakistan/ISI even when the monkeys steal the documents from Indian PM’s office.

I have found many Indians who not just claim but have made up fictional encounters through “Ravi Rikhye” ( an ex- teacher who writes books about military and calls himself a “military strategist”) and in their aerial encounters (more like fantasies), they have pitted ground and air forces against PLA and PLAAF.
I know about playing of IAF with death daily, which continues to grow thanx to poor maintenance standards of IAF leading to higher attrition rates and the famous Flying Coffins flights.

indian army was fighting 1:10 ratio, intruders were at vantaged point, and indian army was making headway, captured tiger hill before intruder withdrew, we know how to make a country surrender, sooner or later we must have won it. imagine same war in neutral condition like dessert or plains, things must have turned even more drastic for intruders

Quite the opposite, indian military enjoyed numerical superioirty and in a matter of weeks, there were more than 5-7 divisions in the staging area. The intruders could man small-strength posts as surely they had good vantage points.

There was no surrender, only retreat, which is tactical withdrawal. and that too happened because NS was pressured by USA only.If India had the capability to make a country surrender, Pakistan would have been wiped off the map after its independance, so take this BS somewhere else.

I wont imagine a war in such scenarios because im not a fictional internet warrior like Indians sitting online.

so honestly do you want me to believe otherwise,
i mean intruders were not supported by Pakistani army?
if supported, Pakistani army accepted bodies of matryrs

The video was a propaganda video and is fake. However the intruders were supported by pakistani Army and had regulars also mixed with them including SSG.

I am not debating anymore with you on this because its going round and round in circles and just like many indians out there, i cant take u out of ur fantasy world and make u meet reality.