i just read in the news that the irani government had claimed that the journalist was beaten to death
The Iranian Govt has admited that Zahra Kazemi DIED because of the beating but still REFUSE to hand over the body.
WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS?
How are muslims that are caught spying for Infidels treated?
They are trying to hide something. But, like what?
An independent autopsy would reveal she may have been raped, tortured! And thus the refusal to release her body.
I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Zahra Kazemi was
TORTURED
RAPED
BEATEN SEVERELY which eventually KILLED her.
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**I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Zahra Kazemi was
TORTURED
RAPED
BEATEN SEVERELY which eventually KILLED her.
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My dear dost, hold your horses and wait until an independent autospy either confirms or rejects any speculation.
Canada's Foreign Affairs minister has discussed this with a few Iranian officials and pressed for the demand that her body be allowed to come to Canada.
My guess would be journalists are beaten to death every month in places like Saudi Arabia as well... i wish we would show the same amount of fury in those circumstances as well when oil-rich countries behave in such a manner towards journalists.
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My dear dost, hold your horses and wait until an independent autospy either confirms or rejects any speculation.
Canada's Foreign Affairs minister has discussed this with a few Iranian officials and pressed for the demand that her body be allowed to come to Canada.
My guess would be journalists are beaten to death every month in places like Saudi Arabia as well... i wish we would show the same amount of fury in those circumstances as well when oil-rich countries behave in such a manner towards journalists.
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i dont think journlists are beaten in saudi arabia every month
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*Originally posted by hafeez123: *
I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Zahra Kazemi was
TORTURED
RAPED
BEATEN SEVERELY which eventually KILLED her.
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if thats the case than shame on them
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*Originally posted by Sheraz CT: *
if thats the case than shame on them
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The answer is in this question that I asked:
How are muslims that are caught spying for Infidels treated?
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*Originally posted by Nadia_H: *
My dear dost, hold your horses and wait until an independent autospy either confirms or rejects any speculation. them
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Dearie,
One needs a body to do an AUTOPSY.
Why do you think they are not returning the body?
Do they have something to hide?
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**Dearie,
One needs a body to do an AUTOPSY.
Why do you think they are not returning the body?
Do they have something to hide?*
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Dear Hafeez, The body has not yet been buried by the Iranian authorities - contrary to what this journalist's son was stating two days ago.
i am just suggesting that we wait for more details to emerge; Iran has not outright stated that they want to keep the body forever. They're really dragging their feet over this issue but they haven't (YET) absolutely stated 'no' to allowing the body to return to Canada. No Iranian official, to date, has stated this.
Until her body has an autopsy conducted on it on Canadian soil, how can anyone say with certainty that she was raped? That's my point. Maybe she was, maybe she wasn't. Wait until the autopsy is conducted and the results are published. Jumping to conclusions doesn't get us too far does it.
Rape or no rape the woman was beaten to death by Iranian police.
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Rape or no rape the woman was beaten to death by Iranian police.
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Maybe it was Americans disguised as Iranian police.
"Maybe it was Americans disguised as Iranian police."
are you serious with that ridiculous theory??...
On the other hand though, maybe it was Israelis disguised as Americans disguised as Iranian police? Now THAT would make sense.
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"Maybe it was Americans disguised as Iranian police."
are you serious with that ridiculous theory??...
On the other hand though, maybe it was Israelis disguised as Americans disguised as Iranian police? Now THAT would make sense.
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;-) yes it does
Well looks like Iran will get to hide what happened.
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Iranian-Canadian Journalist Buried; Canada Recalls Ambassador
TEHRAN, Iran — Canada recalled its ambassador Wednesday to protest how Iran was dealing with the death of an Iranian-Canadian journalist who died in custody after hours of police interrogation.
Zahra Kazemi (search) was buried in her birthplace, the southern Iranian city of Shiraz (search), on Wednesday against the wishes of her son, who lives in Montreal, and the Canadian government.
The burial took place amid tight security with about 60 relatives and 70 government officials present, witnesses said. Armed security barred journalists from talking to Kazemi’s relatives, witnesses said.
With the burial, I guess Iran has now "absolutely said no" to returning the body to Canada for autopsy. Thus, we will never be able to say ** with certainty ** that she was raped or beaten.
Are we allowed to draw any conclusions about this event or has the Iranian government successfully covered its a$$?
The headline I clicked on read "Two Charged in Iranian Journalist's Death", but then I get this article that was just posted within the hour??
Iran Says Agents Not Involved in Death](fdgfd)
Iran's government on Tuesday rejected formal charges that two Intelligence Ministry agents were involved in the death of a Canadian-Iranian photojournalist.
The charge by an independently appointed judge and the denials of involvement in the death of Zahra Kazemi are the latest chapter in a bitter power struggle between elected reformers and unelected hard-liners.
Reformers have accused the hard-liners of involvement in her death. The hard-liners control Iran's police force, judiciary and security agencies.
Kazemi, 54, died July 10, nearly three weeks after being detained for taking photographs outside a Tehran prison during student-led protests. After 77 hours of interrogation, she was rushed to an intensive care unit in a hospital controlled by hard-line Revolutionary Guards, where she died 14 days later.
Kazemi's death was condemned inside and outside Iran. Canada withdrew its ambassador after Kazemi was buried in her birthplace, the southern Iranian city of Shiraz, against the wishes of Canadian authorities and her son, who lives in Montreal.
On Monday, judge Javad Esmaeili charged two Iranian intelligence agents with involvement in the "murder" of Kazemi. The names of the agents were not given.
The government, however, rejected the charge Tuesday.
"The government considers the Intelligence Ministry clean and clear of any charges," government spokesman Abdollah Ramezanzadeh told reporters.
Charging intelligence ministry agents "does not correspond with facts," he said, calling for still another investigation in the case.
"We want a transparent, open, impartial and legal investigation at the presence of lawyers. Such conditions have not so far been met. That's why the Intelligence Ministry doesn't accept the charges," Ramezanzadeh said.
When Canada withdrew its ambassador, Khatami ordered an independent jury to investigate. The hard-line judiciary appointed veteran judge Esmaeili to head the probe.
Last month, a presidential committee shied away from calling the death intentional, but discredited an initial official report that Kazemi had died from a stroke. The committee said she suffered a skull fracture.
Officials had tried to bury Kazemi quietly, saying she died of a stroke, but were stopped by presidential investigators.
Reformers have openly accused Tehran Prosecutor Saeed Mortazavi, a hard- liner, of seeking to distort facts by at first trying to announce the cause of the death as stroke and then seeking a quiet and quick burial.
In case anyone is interested, the Guardian is still carrying the original article–old news now…
Canada throws book at Iran
UNITED NATIONS – With the death of Montreal photojournalist Zahra Kazemi fresh in memory, Canada presented a draft resolution yesterday to a UN committee urging Iran to stop human-rights violations.
Deputy Ambassador Gilbert Laurin presented the draft to the General Assembly’s human rights committee. It accuses Iran of violating human rights, execution, torture and other cruel acts, adding the Tehran government supports “systematic discrimination” against women and girls in law.
Laurin said Iran’s legal process was “frequently lacking” and that its political and religious opponents are “persecuted and arbitrarily sentenced to prison.”
“Human rights defenders including lawyers have been imprisoned and barred from practising in courtrooms because of statements they made in defence of their clients,” Laurin told committee members.
The draft itself made no mention of Kazemi, a Canadian of Iranian origin, who died July 10 about three weeks after being detained for taking photographs outside Tehran’s Evin prison during student-led protests against Islamic hardliners. Kazemi died in hospital of injuries received during her prison interrogation.
Laurin, however, did refer to Kazemi in his address, saying she was a Canadian citizen with dual citizenship who was killed while in Iranian custody.
“What the Kazemi case did was to highlight for the Canadian people the situation of journalists in Iran and the absence of freedom of expression,” he said. “It is just a tragic example of what is wrong with the human rights situation in Iran. There are too many others.”
Those others, he said, include 4,000 demonstrators arrested in Tehran last June. It is not known how many remain in jail.
The draft calls on Iran to abide by the International Covenant on Human Rights and other treaties that uphold freedom of expression and ban torture, cruelty and inhumane punishment. It also urges Iran to expedite judicial reform to guarantee dignity of individuals and ensure due process of law through transparent procedures by an independent judiciary.
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same Canada where mehr arar was sent to syria for no reason at all? where they have decided not to launch a public inquiry into this matter and where people are being deported back to their countries without any evidence and access to fair trials.
these ayotollahs and their narrow minded pals in Iran are one step better than the taleban..same narrow minded, bigoted approach. The treatment of anyoen who does not agree with their stance and all.
Thank god Iran still has a large enough educated populace that knows better than the propoganda fed to them by ayotollahs