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enemy of Allah? 
Thatâs a shirk. Donât associate anybody with Allah. :nono:
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mma idiots at it again.
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The close-minded people like you and your favorite pervez can't think out of their shell. For them, everything is digital; either MMA or Disco. No other proper choice for a Muslim?
For your information, not everyone who opposes pervez is from MMA. I just oppose pervez through Islamic perspective. Would you not oppose someone who challanges ALLAH (SWT)'s orders by saying "those who can't see women running in shorts, should close their eyes". Would you not oppose someone who says that he will NEVER let Islamic penal code implemented in this country. Would you not oppose someone who, after participating in the butchering of thirty forty thousand Afghan Muslims, says that ALLAH (SWT) helped me? (AstighfirULLAH).
If one doesn't take things with Islamic perspective, and hence is a secular as pervez is; only then one can support him.
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âChillâ dudeâŚMushy has quite a few mullahâs (Musslaman) supporting him, does that make them secularists? And you seem to have the seal of authority passed down by ⌠(:Pagri: ) to pass judgement on others, is that correct?
Yes, I would support anyone who resisted implementation of the so-called Islamic penal code for the simple reason Pakistan was not created to be a theocratic state, may Jinnahâs rest in peace.
Yes, let the chaddis beginâŚ:biggthumb if you dont like them well thats your lossâŚ
As for butchering of Afghan muslims, well dear good muslim where were you when they were killing each other for the last ten years? Or, what about battle of Camel, what happens to muslims who support one group over the other?
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^ it's okay when the afghan kill each other, we just don't like it when white people do it.
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Man what a BS⌠
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the idea of khilafa doesn't get digested by most of the ppl simply coz 'kuttay ko ghee hazam nahen hota'
we servived for centuries just coz we were together .
Two things here.
IQBAL once said
Apni Millat pay qayas aqwam-e-maghrib say na ker
khas hay tarkeeb main qaum-e-rasool-e-hashmi.
and for killings in afghanista and kashmir do u think it was just mullahs fighting.. mullahs were fighting coz the khaki's supported them. read the bloody Strategic Depth Doctorine that Pakistan Army followed and that led to the killing of thousands and thousands of ppl just to cover these *******s asses..who were supposed to AND paid to defend their country and instead they pushed their country men to hells just to sit in their HQ's and Islamabd just plundering national wealth
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Thereâs a famous English proverb: " A Dog always returns to it vomit"
We did not survive bcos we were together, we survived cos the others were weaker and Musalman were divided into two-three strong empires who were never united. Read your history book.
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hey he is the only Paki president who got to have lunch with Rani Mukerjee :p
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thats also a revelation to me that they were weaker than us.
How did salahuddin ayubi managed to beat those christians bent upon taking jerusalum.
I guess they werer weaker with those million armies.
Ayubi was the ruler of Fatmid caliphat which was NOT part of Baghdad caliphat but he regarded them with great respect and used to iform the caliph there for his expeditions.
The subcontinent was a different story but even these ppl put the caliphat to great repsect and u can read how they used to treat the ambassador from baghdad.
The only person against this was Mustafa kamal pasha and i guess u know who he was and wat he did. and how he died.
and one last thing.
u said they were weaker.. and how do u think musalamans got stronger ?
there must b some factors and i consider unity as one factor.
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you are the man
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Christian armies had taken Jerusalam in 1099 AD and marauding (victorious) christian armies pushed the Islamic frontiers further into the East. Reason, Muslims were disintegrated, disinterested in defending each other. Yes, Salahuddin Ayubi was a great soldier and great leader of Islamic ummah, but men like him have been few and rare. Sallahuddin was able to take Jerusalem in 1187, thats 90years of christian rule in a region which was predominantly Muslim. It was lost again in 1229 and retaken in 1244.
Christian crusaders had travelled from France, England and other western Christian regions and had very different ideas of what christianity should be as compared tot eh orthodox church which was prevalent in the byzantium empire i.e., constantinople. Thus the difference of opinions and huge distances for the victorious Franks who had travelled from Europe.
European history is replete with examples of inter-state rivalries. Austro-Hungarian, Russian, French, Porteguese, Spanish, German, English and Nordic kingdoms. Since these countries/monarchies were involved in a constant state of power struggle, Muslim empires were able to survive a little longer. As history shows us, as soon as European powers decided to invade Asia for its rich resources, the Muslim powers were unable to offer any meaningful resistence. Ottoman empire was the only entity which presented a meaningful resistence till WWI, after that its been handout after handout.