Existence of life

[kprasad]

Re: Existence of life

@psyah

Peace kprasad
When I talk about speciation evidence … I mean to observe the act … The fact that genes of living creatures is similar also just indicates that we all were Created by the same Entity with a similar life signature … It does not necessitate or isolate the cause to be evolution … Because again you are making general statements without going into detail … Please avoid statements like “hard questions” have been answered … They have not been answered … if they have been answered then not with science … Merely with faith like statements … Such as evolution … I have only accepted the plausible nature of the theory … as a theory and not as fact, and I was always in that position … The moment I start to take evolution as fact … It becomes a faith because the evidence is simply not there … i.e. The measurement is not there, the observation. A counter theory may be that groups of creatures just appear in the wilderness … Another theory could be that a whole community of animals of one type are converted over night into another species together. But you see not having a detailed counter theory does not make the original theory right … When they formed the geocentric theory of the universe and there was no better theory at the time it didn’t make the geocentric theory right …
As for camels that is interesting trivia … I’ll read it and comment below:

This is a common argument put forth by creationists, trying to segregate sceince in to observational science and hostorical science. It’s nonsensical. You should read similar arguments by Ken Ham and his outfit. This is a dictinction made only to distort and to bring what scientists do down to the level of what creationists want.
Scientists show knowledge of their field not simply by looking at the fossil record, or historical data. Scientists show mastery of their field by then making exact and precise predictions about it in the future! And it works! Scientists show they know what happened in the past by predicting what will happen in the future! Equally amazing thing that scientists do, when they turn out to be wrong, they go back and reexamine their data, their evidence, their conclusions, their assumptions, and conduct more tests, and try predicting again. Science isn’t static. It doesn’t get it’s feelings hurt. It isn’t stuck in the bronze age.

Influenza used to kill lots and lots of people. Scientists developed a vaccine for it. The virus however changes every year. Scientists not only created a vaccine by understanding the nature of the disease, but they predict what the virus is likely to be like the next season. Does anyone remember how many people died from the H1-N1 ‘pandemic’? How mane people have died from the Avian Flu?

Here is what happened in 1918, before the vaccine: Pandemic Flu History | Flu.gov

By the way, the Greeks, the Persians, the Indians, and the Chinese knew the universe wasn’t geocentric. Geocentricity was dogma for the Abrahamic religions. Before the advent of those religions, people knew!
I’ll add, not having a counter theory is a demonstration of not having a comprehension of the evidence and data.

@psyah

Although I do not believe the Bible to be an unadulterated text … In it’s defence the article in my opinion is shoddy …

1. to analyse one bit of an archeological area for its camel remains can only prove when those particular camels came … It cannot disprove when other camels did not come and especially not in other areas.
2. there is no indication in the Bible that domesticated camels were introduced en masse in the area … That is an assumption and a wrong one.
3. the article does not say and cannot reveal when camels were first domesticated everywhere in the world … For sure camels were used by caravans and nomads for centuries and Abraham (AS) was nomadic … So people like him could have walked their camels over many miles to that area.
   I don’t understand why you can accept articles like this so easily yet deny the existence of God …

The article I provided you is a news story about an actual scientific study, not the study itself.
Here is a better synopsis of the study: http://archaeology.tau.ac.il/ben-yosef/pub/Pub_PDFs/Sapir-Hen&Ben-Yosef13_CamelAravah_TelAviv.pdf
It lists sources, evidence, data, other studies, has footnotes, etc.. I see nothing remotely close for your version, or any other version, of deity.

@psyah

@kprasad
Here is an alternative theory I just made up … please analyse it and dismantle it …
· Genetic drift and natural selection is the cause for changes of an organism within its own genetic family. Speciation does not occur.
· The classification of living organisms is essential in the determination of which groups of animals could be part of the same primordial template.
· This theory postulates that all existent animals have had a primordial template.
· The way to determine which animals are part of the same primordial template is indicated in the ability of their sex cells forming a zygote together (successful cross-breeding)
· Animals that may hence appear to be similar, but do not bear any genetic compatibility are really only apparently similar as an accident of nature
· Primordial templates appear miraculously throughout time as demonstrated by the fossil record, when new creatures appear they will create an imbalance and compete with existing animals and hence result in certain animal classes being driven to extinction.

The operative words: *Here is an alternative theory I just made up. *
Your fantasy and conjecture are not science. Anyone can make things up as they go. That’s what happens in religion, and frankly, it’s your right to do that in religion. That’s not science.