Ever wonder why america supports isreal so much?

ukhalil11, why do you say I am from Bangladesh? As I Muslim do you not feel sorry for the 1 million Bengali Muslims slaughtered by the West Pakistani forces of Islam? Or are Bengalis not true pure Wahabi Muslims like the Punjabis (who are obviously all descendants of pure and holy Arabs)? Why have so few Punjabis spoken out against the their state-sponsored genocide against their fellow Muslims in 1971? Is that not hypocrisy?

Ok, Quasidumbo, let me reply to you, since you obviously don’t want to use your brain to process the information.

I’ll reply to any issue you have raised, leaving aside all your typical mindless dribble.

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To the M.R.M.F, Which one of the above pics are not a result of Israeli Atrocities? PLEASE POINT TOWARDS PIC(S) AND GIVE THE EVIDENCE, INSTEAD OF BAD MOUTHING ON EVERY SINGLE F'KING THREAD. I can call U names that even UR UNBORN children won't forget, SO REFRAIN URSELF FROM THIS AND MIND UR LANGUAGE.
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Getting a little hyper and upset aren’t we? Did I strike a nerve in your fascist ideology? Good, I hope I did. You posted the pictures, so it is your responsibility to provide the context of these pictures, not me or anyone else. I do not doubt for a moment that these pictures are of Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians, but guess what, war is hell, and innocent people sometimes die. The difference between suicide bombers and IDF is this: IDF, in most cases does not directly target Palestinian civilians. If IDF wanted to it could bomb all the Palestinian territories with its air force, without risking its soldiers. In fact the pure and holy Muslim countries like Syria and Jordan have committed far far greater atrocities against fellow Muslims. Did you know that Syria killed 100,000 Muslims by destroying and leveling to the ground an entire city that rebelled against them? Do you not feel ashamed as a Muslim to know that fellow Muslims kill more Muslims then any non-Muslim, or does your black and white view of the world not allow you to see this reality?

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U CAN post what ever U want to, U.J.A. By the way, all these pics above of Civilians and Children, NOT OF ANY SUICIDE BOMBER.
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If you don’t accompany your pictures with captions, how am I supposed to know this? Having for the first time seen many of these pictures, for all I know, these Palestinians were killed by other Arabs. Remember that Jordan killed thousands of Palestinians during Black September with the help of advisors from the pure and holy Pakistan Army.

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So All The NON PAKISTANI Muslims can Protest, RIGHT ?? And would U be kind enough to let us know the link of the above pic to the present situation??
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Are you a Pakistani Muslim or you an Arab-wanabe Muslim? Since you are a Pakistani and this is a Pakistani forum, why should I not address the Pakistani atrocities not so long ago. If I ago to an Arab forum, I will address Arab hypocrisies, but right now I’ll deal with Pakistani hypocrisies.

So, if you comapre the number of innocent Palestinians killed by Israeli forces vs. the number of innocent Bengalis killed by Pakistani Army, who do you think coems out on top? Hmmm...

Lets see: Faraz you carry your hate for Punjabis, and Wahabis and anyone else who says follow Quran and SUnnah… everywhere you go?

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well thats a nice thing to carry for a person like your self.

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Are you part of MQM?

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Its ok you can say no.

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AND WHEN IT IS SAID TO THEM: “DO NOT MAKE MISCHIEF ON THE EARTH”, THEY SAY “WE ARE ONLY PEACE-MAKERS” VERILY, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKES MISCHIEF, BUT THEY PERCEIVE NOT"-[Qur’an-2:11-12]

How did you Holy Wahabiness conclude that I hate Punjabis? And I know you think that only Wahabi Punjabis follow the Quran and Sunnah and every other mainstream Sunni Muslim is a kafir, but whay do you and your types hate Sunnis so much? Why did your god Abdul Wahab try to create a new religion? Are Sunnis idol worshipping heathens unlike the pure Wahabis?

And no I am not part of any terrorist organization like MQM. Though I suspect Musharraf might be a card-holding member.

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Originally posted by Faraz Mir:

And no I am not part of any terrorist organization like MQM. Though I suspect Musharraf might be a card-holding member.

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Faraz- you're right. Political parties aren't allowed to hold rallies,but MQM were allowed to hold one in Karachi just last week.

And what was the rally cry? 'AZADI'AZADI'!
He is playing a very dangerous game.
Supporting the biggest threat to Pak just because they are fellow Mohajers.

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We go to PA/WA forums, you are whining about punjabis(saw some posts), you go to religion, same nonsense. People come here, you bring up same stupid, pathetic, hateful issues. WHy? Can’t you enjoy SOME peace or do you have to create discomfort and disunity and then when everyone complaining you hide behing peace peace slogans?

Don’t you have something between your ears that you use to THINK first before you post anything? Damn man, leave this sectarian thing to religious forum atleast and discuss “ever wonder why america supports israel so much,” but nooo you have to bring your nonsense and harmful agenda in to create more disharmony and create more fights. (just that suggests that you belong to terrorists like MQM…) Shame on you man and GROW UP!


AND WHEN IT IS SAID TO THEM: “DO NOT MAKE MISCHIEF ON THE EARTH”, THEY SAY “WE ARE ONLY PEACE-MAKERS” VERILY, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKES MISCHIEF, BUT THEY PERCEIVE NOT"-[Qur’an-2:11-12]

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I would be more then happy to stop carring about fanatics like yourself, only if the fantics stopped killing everyone, Muslim or otherwise.

The least I can do, which is regrettebly not much, is to voice my opinions against extremists.

MQM is now almost officially part of the rulling military regime, thanks to Musharraf. If their was a Sindhi, Kashmiri, or Balochi General incharge right now, we would see the same happening with JSM, JKLF, and BNM.

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Originally posted by Faraz Mir:
**I would be more then happy to stop carring about fanatics like yourself, only if the fantics stopped killing everyone, Muslim or otherwise.

The least I can do, which is regrettebly not much, is to voice my opinions against extremists.

MQM is now almost officially part of the rulling military regime, thanks to Musharraf. If their was a Sindhi, Kashmiri, or Balochi General incharge right now, we would see the same happening with JSM, JKLF, and BNM.**
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Nice.

What is with you people? Anyone who doesn't agree with you is a fanatic, and as Alibeta would say, hypocrite and ignorant? Is that all you can do?

If you want the terrorists and radicals to stop killing, you need to convey that message to father of all radicals, the Israelis. If they stop, people who fight back and "kill people" will stop too.

I don't think what Mushy did with those groups was wrong. He did the right thing, we don't need butt-nutts to divide the People of Pakistan and Muslims. We already have many other problems, and don't need one group in every alley to kill the other one in the next alley! MQM is a TERRORIST organization and it will never be part of government, I don't know on what basis you are making such stupid, pointless statement!


AND WHEN IT IS SAID TO THEM: "DO NOT MAKE MISCHIEF ON THE EARTH", THEY SAY "WE ARE ONLY PEACE-MAKERS" VERILY, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKES MISCHIEF, BUT THEY PERCEIVE NOT"-[Qur'an-2:11-12]

IT WAS PERFECTLY SAID MAN! I COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER.. but still these people will not understand. Bad mouthing our own muslims brother yet at the same time supporting kuffars for there evil acts…

khuda hafiz

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Originally posted by Faraz Mir:
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP, I SEE Wahabi's!!
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F.M. Every time I read UR post, I get really surprise. HOW ONE can be such an Ignorant A$$

I do not doubt for a moment that these pictures are of Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians...

Now to answer this let me quote U

"are you just trying to trick innocent Muslims to believing your lies?"

Are you a Pakistani Muslim or you an Arab-wannabe Muslim? Since you are a Pakistani and this is a Pakistani forum, why should I not address the Pakistani atrocities not so long ago.

I am Neither a Pakistani Muslim Nor a Arab Muslim and Certainly not a Wannabe Muslim. I am JUST MUSLIM. By saying those words, anybody can see YOU BREAD ON HATRED AND ANGER ALWAYS SEEMS TO CLOG YOUR BRAIN.

Well if you want to talk about it, GO AHEAD. I ASKED U for a LINK and U as usual R Beating around the BUSH like a little excited M*K*Y.

So, if you coma pre the number of innocent Palestinians killed by Israeli forces vs. the number of innocent Bengalis killed by Pakistani Army, who do you think coems out on top? Hmmm..

F.M. What R U TRYING TO say here. So U will be satisfied when DEATH TOLL OF Palestinian Muslims will exceed Bangladeshi Muslims???. What will make U satisfy F.M. What makes U tick. Please LET US KNOW. I am GOING to ASK U AGAIN, WHAT IS THE LINK between the two Atrocities . Hey if you want to talk about un justification, You don't have to go as far as 1971. You can talk about the crises in mid 80's in Pakistan when Muslims BUTCHERED each other in the name of ethnicity WITHOUT any MERCY. U can talk about the GENOCIDE of 500,000 Bosnian Muslims in 90's (So that makes me Bosnian wanna be Muslim, RIGHT?) U can talk about, How Bosnian Muslim girls as young as 7 were ganged RAPED. U can talked about How many Bosnian women suicide with their UNBORN Babies. U can talk about How many Chechnian Muslims were literally got HALAL by Russian Solders while still conscious. (So that makes me Chechnian Wanna be Muslim, RIGHT?) U can Talk about the Death of 500,000 Iraqi Children(Now that makes me Iraqi wanna be Muslim, RIGHT?) U can talk about how many innocent Afghani Civilian families BLOWN away in the name of terrorism (Now that makes me Afghani wanna be Muslim, RIGHT?) U can talk about the horrors of Kashmiri Muslim (that makes me Kashmiri wanna Muslim, RIGHT?) U can talk about How many Muslim families got BURNED alive in Gujrat (Now that makes me Indian wanna be Muslim, Right?) U can talk about Muslims in Philippine ... HEY THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. My POINT IS, OPEN A NEW THREAD, IF U WANT TO TALK ABOUT. Don't confuse the Past with the Present. IF THE INJUSTICE WAS DONE IN THE PAST, WHY U WANT THE SAME INJUSTICE DONE IN PRESENT?

If I ago to an Arab forum, I will address Arab hypocrisies, but right now I’ll deal with Pakistani hypocrisies...

F.M. U R FULL OF S**T. So next time U want to Lick Jewish A$$ Don't Forget to GO to Jewish Forum!. When Next time U feel like kissing American A$$ don't Forget to go to American Forum!. Next time U feel the URGE to talk to UR kind, Don't forget to go to NUTCASE Forum!!


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I would have it that someday my poems are so good that if one of my love poems is overheard at a restaurant, it will have patrons WEEPING into their soup, will lift all into the PERFECT SPHERE of its INTIMACY.

what can I say
have no words after seeing those pictures

Look at these pictures, an OPEN evidence of Israeli CRIME and TERRORISM which AMERICA supports with eyes shut:
http://jenin.50megs.com/jenin.html

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We provide facts, you decide!


AND WHEN IT IS SAID TO THEM: “DO NOT MAKE MISCHIEF ON THE EARTH”, THEY SAY “WE ARE ONLY PEACE-MAKERS” VERILY, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKES MISCHIEF, BUT THEY PERCEIVE NOT"-[Qur’an-2:11-12]

The same discussion is being carried out in three different threads. Please use World Affairs forum for a more focussed debate on this topic.

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