Re: Europeans & Muslims see USA as biggest threat to world peace
I don’t see how that result is interesting or at all unexpected?
What would be interesting is if, instead of Iran’s nuclear program, the survey asked about Islamic Extremism as a threat to world peace. The phrase off-the-scale comes to mind.
Unfortunately, that kind of question isn’t politically correct. If it had been asked, I’m sure most of you would’ve just dismissed the survey as a zionist plot, and surmised that the Pew Group was really controlled by the neo-con/scientologists.
Any nitwit can see that Islamic Extremism is what Europeans truly fear (and rightly so). The US presence in Iraq is stoking the fire of these freaks and even through the EU countries are playing “the good cop” semi-successfully, they’ve borne the brunt of the terror backlash since 9-11.
As Bruce Willis’ character in Die Hard said to the overweight black cop after the latter almost got crushed by the bad guy’s corpse thrown from Nakatomi tower that Christmas Eve:
Re: Europeans & Muslims see USA as biggest threat to world peace
US foreign policy under Bush has been inept, arrogant and reckless. No doubt. Couple that with all of America's power, and there is no wonder many around the world see US as a threat to world peace. But to extrapolate that into a condemnation of all of America's history or the chartacter of her people is unfair.
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I think the native American tribes who were given disease ridden blankets to wipe them out and the blacks who were sold into slavery would have a thing or two to say about America’s history and its people…
Unless the leopard changed its spots, which I doubt in view of current events…
Re: Europeans & Muslims see USA as biggest threat to world peace
I think the self rigtheous who who spew hatred while claiming piety and the moral high ground has something to do with their world views. All cultures, religions and civilizations that have flourished throughout history have blood on their hands. Some even spread disease and practice slavery to this very day.
Re: Europeans & Muslims see USA as biggest threat to world peace
it is interesting how pro-american posters will dodge this bit of news whereas they will ask Muslims to be reflective and ask us to change because of the opinion of the world.
Re: Europeans & Muslims see USA as biggest threat to world peace
The US attack against Afghanistan was justified, and was the best thing to happent to them. So, I'm not sure what you are referring to.
As for Iraq, it was a war of choice. The US broke it, and is trying to take care of.
What amazes me is that the rest of the world would rather see the US get a bloody nose than help the Iraqis.
What difference are you talking about? The EU and Arab world talk about how bad the US is, why are they not doing anything in Sudan? More people are dieing there than anywhere else in the world? Why isn't the OIC doing anything? What I am saying, Captain, is if you don't have a spine, sit down and shut up.
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Best thing to happen to them? how come? Ask the ones who lost their families if they are better off without them. How was it "justified"? The "monster" they wanted to capture is still living untouched and is still blamed for more and more actions of same category as before attacking Afghanistan, I don't see how it was "justified"... just because you are hurt doesn't mean you are justified to attack anyone YOU want.
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As for Iraq, it was a war of choice. The US broke it, and is trying to take care of.
What amazes me is that the rest of the world would rather see the US get a bloody nose than help the Iraqis.
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Why the people who want US's bloody nose? Any idea? Think harder!
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What difference are you talking about? The EU and Arab world talk about how bad the US is, why are they not doing anything in Sudan? More people are dieing there than anywhere else in the world? Why isn't the OIC doing anything? What I am saying, Captain, is if you don't have a spine, sit down and shut up.
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Again you are mixing two issues to say the same thing over and over. There is difference in "helping" and "invasion", if you are able to "help" while no others are that doesn't give you right to "invasion".
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Captain, when the government of a country decides to let people ram planes into buildings in other countries, then they have forfeited their national sovereignty. Moreover, the terrorist of the Taliban did not care what happened to their country men. Did they really think the US would do nothing? It was an act of war. By the way, there are thousands of families in the US that lost loved ones in the attack.
People want the US to get a bloody nose because they have super power envy. Captain, what the world accuses the US of doing, France, Russia, China, Germany, and most of the EU do everywhere. Ever wonder why the French are in Africa? One word, diamonds. Ever wonder why China would rather millions be killed in Sudan than help? One word, oil. The world is duplicitious.
What I am saying is simple Captain: You have to earn the right to complain. Simply put, Captain, no one has.
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The so-blamed party didn't have any correlation with the nation, the ruler of that nation suggested US to use third country as "trial" country for OBL & co but US showed arrogance and refused to accept the offer. By the way, if you read newspapers of Jun 2001 you'll see that US was wishing to invade Afghanistan even before 911 so the loss of lives in 911 doesn't bear much significance in that context.
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**People want the US to get a bloody nose because they have super power envy. **Captain, what the world accuses the US of doing, France, Russia, China, Germany, and most of the EU do everywhere. Ever wonder why the French are in Africa? One word, diamonds. Ever wonder why China would rather millions be killed in Sudan than help? One word, oil. The world is duplicitious.
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WRONG AGAIN! They want US to get bloody nose in hopinng that US will learn its lesson and stop invading other countries on its will without provoking. Believe me once US stops such aggression and focuses on helping others there would be more pro-US people on earth than anti-US.
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What I am saying is simple Captain: You have to earn the right to complain. Simply put, Captain, no one has.
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The only "right to complain" you need to earn is about "helping", but NO ONE has to earn the right to complain against "invasions", simple as that.
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WRONG AGAIN! They want US to get bloody nose in hopinng that US will learn its lesson and stop invading other countries on its will without provoking. Believe me once US stops such aggression and focuses on helping others there would be more pro-US people on earth than anti-US.
The only "right to complain" you need to earn is about "helping", but NO ONE has to earn the right to complain against "invasions", simple as that.
Captain, we are way off base here. I am not going to debate the reason US went to war in Afghanistan. That is a done deal. Barring some convoluted personalities, it is an open and shut case.
As for this thread. In a nutshell, I am saying: You think the US is a threat to world peace? What have you done to make the world better? Answer: Nothing.
So simply put, deal with it....or do something.
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As for this thread. In a nutshell, I am saying: You think the US is a threat to world peace? What have you done to make the world better? Answer: Nothing.
So simply put, deal with it....or do something.
Again you are trying to mix two issues, trying to prove that Iraq war was to make world better.
Re: Europeans & Muslims see USA as biggest threat to world peace
We are not talking about Iraq war here. We are talking about whether US is a threat to world peace. I say the EU and Arabs point to the US as being a threat because they are incapable. US is a threat to peace, but Sudanese, Somalia, Russia, France are not? How is that possible? I bet more people have died in Africa in this year than all of the people, civilian and military and jihadi, in the Iraq war. That is not world peace?
How many pople have been killed for France's appetite for blood diamonds?
How many black Muslims have been killed in Sudan because China doesn't care? How many Muslims have dies in Xian Jian by Chinese hands? How many people are being killed by Russian in Chechnya? Are these place not a part of the world? Or, are you saying that terrorism is generated only by the war in Afghanistan and Iraq?
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So Iraq “WAR” doesn’t have anything to do with US being considered a threat to world peace?
Incapable of attacking other nations? I disagree. They are fully capable of attacking other countries if they want to, now don’t pick Yemen and ask me if they can attack US
You again mixing other issues. Who has attacked Somalia? Sudan? Aren’t they fighting within their own lands? Russian conflict with Chechnya is much older and is more like Pak/Ind’s Kashmir issue.
Please tell me more on this one, I haven’t read/heard much on it, specially in recent months.
You are at loss again, mixing “help” issues with “invasion” issues. I’ll give you some break on this one to think more.
Again, the survey is about “which country is more likely to attack another country”, if you have problem with survey then that is separate issue and you can ask survery makers to do a survey on issues that you want to highlight.
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Europeans may have a point. OTOH who cares about what Muslims world thinks. I mean a lizard can jump up and down if he wants, but the most he could do is become a "spokes-lizard" for an insurance company.
Yes Muslim world i.e. Middle Eastern world is nothing but a tiny lizard in the land of giants.
West Europeans oppose American policies because they have worked hard to achieve a status in the world.
Middle Easterners on the other hand are the scum of this earth, so nobody cries when scum flows down the drain.
People may feel these are harsh words against the Middle East. Unfortunately if you don't work hard, don't develop your institutions, rely on terrorism; you would become what people say "scum".
The only way Middle East can come out of this is to throw away their tribalism and become civilized. Join the mainstream, and develop themselves. I hope it happens soon as it pains me to see the Middle East in this situation.
Re: Europeans & Muslims see USA as biggest threat to world peace
Captain, in simple terms, the world is a very dangerous place. You can split hairs if you like, but the US is the least of the concerns for most of the people being killed in conflicts.
