Re: Drone kills TTP No.2 | TTP withdraws talk offer
Here is a concise reponse to each of your “points.” If this isnt enough for you to learn to keep silent and only speak when spoken too, well then I cant help you… I really dont have the time to be wasting on you, and I took some time out to respond to you, so read carefully, take a deep breath, calm down and think.
im going to ignore the first half of your rant as its just another exhibition of your immaturity. Lets examine ur “facts” Mr Taliban expert…
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Its a known fact that Pakistan will NOT be negotiating with all types of Taliban
Pakistan is negotiating with the TTP. the very same group that refuses to disarm and refuses to recognize the govt or its writ, or the constitution.
Here you see, Sharif advises govt to negotiate with the TTP. Nawaz advises govt to immediately start peace talks with TTP – The Express Tribune -
**Its a fact that Taliban are dividing into so many groups and sub groups each having different goals and way of operating **
The TTP is an umbrella group of many different smaller groups all with basically the same anti govt agenda, which is why they formed one group! Surprise!
Pakistan wants to negotiate with the TTP, composed entirely of anti govt factions. The TTP is the largest militant group and the primary source of most of the countries headache.
3.Its a fact that certain groups of Taliban can indeed be defeated without the use of violence.
Really? Which ones. Because the group Pakistan wants to negotiate with is one that has on every occasion shown that they will not be defeated but through violence. Remember how the other peace accords failed?
4.** It s a fact that certain groups of Taliban have made it known that they are willing to disarm and recognize Pakistan’s government and abide by peace terms.**
Yeah ok genius.. The issue isnt with THOSE groups. The issue here is with the TTP which does NOT want to disarm or recognize the govt or abide by peace terms.. The Pakistan govt is looking to negotiate with the TTP, and thus is inexcusable.
- **Its a fact that Pakistan will still be using force against Taliban who do not disarm and continue harming civilians.
Right, because if there’s one thing thats abundantly clear from ten years of govt apathy and Army inaction, is that the Army is going to use force to defend civilians… **
such as the group who is responsible for killing those innocent police men…
Ok Einstein, if you havent already figured this out, they ARE negotiating with the same group that killed those policemen. The govt is trying to negotiate with the TTP led by Hakeemullah, who took credit for the deaths of those policement.
6**.Its a fact that Pakistan is only negotiating with rogue elements within Taliban camp only to weaken and destroy the entire network instead of empowering them the whole entity.**
Wow, brilliant strategy. Except that there is no evidence to indicate that this is the actual strategy. And even if it is, the past hsitory of failed peace initiatives should be enough for them to realize that instead of weakening the Taliban, they will only embolden them further. So its far from a fact, and if it is, its short sighted and based on nothing more then wishful thinking and weak assumptions, completely contradicted by past failures.
- Its a fact that Pakistan is only going with NATO’s official peace strategy in order to lessen the workload for our armed forces and reduce the numbers of civilians and soldiers who die in the conflict.
NATO is trying to negotiate with those groups that willing to join the mainstream and renounce violence. Something they have all but given up on from what I hear. Pakistan is negotiating not with those who have said outright, they WILL NOT DISARM!
Pakistani Taliban call for ceasefire in video statement | World news | guardian.co.uk
“The video, delivered to the Reuters news agency in Pakistan on Friday, is the latest in a series of statements in recent days stating that the group wants a peace deal – though they refuse to disarm.”
This is the group they are trying to negotiate with…
Also, unlike NATO, for whom negotiations are a first, for Pakistan there is ample precedence of failed peace with the TTP. Yet you think they should give it another shot!
- Since Taliban are not a single entity anymore, Pakistan army can only fight so many groups at one time and in so many regions.
They weren’t a single entity in Swat and neither were they a single entity in South Waziristan. That didn’t stop the Army from going in there. Perhaps the Army is bit smarter then some two bit Islamist who thinks he’s a strategic genius, yet ironically, can’t figure out how a tablet works…
9.** If there are Taliban in Karachi, well I suggest you go ahead and open a thread calling for drone attacks there along with heavy tanks, troops and fighter jets to be deployed in the city. Lets see how many Karachittes support another military operation in their city.**
You missed the point bright eyes… 
Trying reading slower.
My point was that the Taliban are and have to some extent infiltrated areas well beyond FATA. Meaning, if you dont take care of them , they are going to spread as they have into Karachi. Its not a matter of how we will control them in Karachi, its that they are IN Karachi and not solely in FATA.
10.What influence of Taliban are you talking about? Didn’t we just had a first ever peaceful democratic transition of power?
Are u kidding me? 3 of the main parties had to curtail all electioneering out of fear of Taliban attack, and you call that fair and just? This was the most violent election in Pakistan’s history thanks to the TTP, and your calling that peaceful?
- How can you propagate about Taliban influence taking over entire country when people of Pakistan are actively calling for strengthening of democratic institutions; increase in education and health budget; strong industrialised economy; more efficient law enforcing bodies; availability of quick and speedy justice through courts.
These things u mentioned have nothing to do with the Taliban, they have to do with an awam that is desperate for change, after a near complete economic collapse and unprecedented misery. The influence on Taliban i refer to is through their use of violence on politicans, the media and the general public. When the secular parties are to afraid to hold mass rallies, that is an example of the Talibans disproportionate influence. When imran Khan said he had to be careful in his criticsm for fear of harm being inflictedon his party workers, that is influence of the Taliban. When the media is to afraid of threats to ever condemn Taliban openly, that is their influence.. Get it now?
12.** But the question should be, don’t you get tired of making same old pathetic doom and gloom posts or internet trolling is just getting lot more sophisticated these days?**
Well, the truth isnt pleasant is it… People like you who arent very well informed yet are to arrogant to admit it would assume that anyone spouting truth is a troll…
If only your intellect were as robust as your ego, I wouldn’t have to waste so much time schooling your ill formed arse.