I was reading an article AQ Khan wrote about him too, and it wasnt pretty. Seems like Dr. Atta has alot of critics. Btw lansing, I was actually in Lansing yesterday, at a community dinner and alot of HEC scholars there were bashing Dr. Atta too.
Hope you enjoyed your trip to Lansing. I would have joined you had I not been in Islamabad. :) Were you at the Eid Dinner thing by PSA?
People bashing him may have read the negative articles instead of thinking for themselves. :)
In my opinion, some things may have gone wrong, but overall, so many things have improved in comparison to the last 60 years.
One problem is people keep on saying that the Primary education sector was neglected. I do agree it was neglected, but Dr. Atta was simply not responsible for primary or secondary education. He was only responsible for the Higher Education sector which he I think turned around Alhamdulialh. Why don’t these critics go criticize the education minister of that time? Primary education is equally important?
Again, its these so called intellectuals who write in our newspapers. Many are just spreading pessimism and criticism for the sake of criticism. Why can’t we just build upon what good has happened. Instead of just telling plain facts they just get carried away with the wave of anti-Musharraf and everything he did. I hate Musharraf but realistically speaking, nobody is 100% bad. Lets just give credit for 1% or more that was good.
Today there are far more universities than ever before. We still need a lot of expansion, keeping in view the size of our young population. There is the access of digital library in every public university now, we never had that before.
In addition, the scholarships given are a healthy sign. Even if some of them come back, its a net gain for Pakistani educational institutions.
Teaching became a respectable and high paying profession for the first time in Pakistan and we were able to see fresh blood instead of same old traditional style teachers.
Thank you for posting that Saleem. On top of whats being said about him, our nuclear scientist Dr. Qadeer just wasted his words. His remaining silent would have reflected truly of his caliber.
Bhai, you cannot say what Dr AQ Khan may have really said. You should know that Rauf Klasra wrote an article claiming that Dr AQ Khan has said. Fact is that, Dr AQ Khan might have said one thing and journalists like Rauf Klasra could write something else. This is going on with most Pakistani journalists since long time. When you see something written, presented, or said by people like Rauf Klasra, Ansar Abbasi, Hamid Mir, Shahid Masood, Kashif Abbasi, or rest of Pakistan Journalists who have infected Pakistani media like parasites, read them and discard what they produced as BS, as most what they produce are lies, fabricated news, ignorance, and propaganda. I bet you that most of these journalists do not know the difference between 'million' and 'crore'. Their only qualification is that they are in the pocket of politicians, who guarantee their job and make them write ridiculous. These days, since politicians wanted to get rid of Dr Rehman and want to malign Musharraf as much as they can, they are making journalists write these sorts of stories, that could be 100 percent fabricated.
Anyhow, the reply of Dr Rehman is not fabricated product of parasite journalists. It is presented as coming from News Desk, so one can expect reliability there. :D
You are right. Some people could not see good work because they have glasses of bias on their eyes, full of hate, personal grudge, or whatever, just because probably they, their friends, or their family members could not do corruption, loot and plunder during last 8 years. As for others, works of a person speaks louder than words.
I agree bias/hate does have blinding effect, many people in hate of Musharraf get blinded and not see good things achieved in his era, though I am a criticic of Musharraf myself but I do appreciate educational reforms, PhD as requirement for professor/lecturer in universities, some economic achievements. I think Dr Atta's appointment was one good thing of that time too.
Hope you enjoyed your trip to Lansing. I would have joined you had I not been in Islamabad. :) Were you at the Eid Dinner thing by PSA?
Yep, I am always there at the msu events :)
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All of them are pretty much HEC scholars so I am sure they have their own opinions, and they were relating how some of Atta's policies were pretty absurd. During the dinner I talked to some, and they said that there were some scams being pulled because alot of these students came here and managed to get funding from the university directly, and they exepected that the HEC funds from Pakistan would rolloever if they didnt use them. So when the university stopped funding those students, the HEC just told them since they didnt use their allocated funding for 3 years, they wont get it. On papers, those that money was spent, God knows where (something that happens very frequently in Pakistan). So hence alot of these students would have to come back without completing their PhDs unless they get funding from the university. There are about 35-50 HEC scholars there, and only one guy, who happens to be a Brig. didnt get his funding revoked.
^I guess what you mentioned is a serious lacking on part of HEC. They should now improve their processes more. As I said earlier not everything done was good but a lot of good happened also.
^I guess what you mentioned is a serious lacking on part of HEC. They should now improve their processes more. As I said earlier not everything done was good but a lot of good happened also.
Yeah but the scary part is, only 1 HEC guy completed his PhD so far, and if some of these people dont find their funding fast, many will go back without the degrees. That would totally cripple the program and waste all that money and time.
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There were about 160 people the other day, but again it had family members, community members, and non-pakistanis.
I agree bias/hate does have blinding effect, many people in hate of Musharraf get blinded and not see good things achieved in his era, though I am a criticic of Musharraf myself but I do appreciate educational reforms, PhD as requirement for professor/lecturer in universities, some economic achievements. I think Dr Atta's appointment was one good thing of that time too.
Believe me, from the news I am getting, all good works of last 8 years are going down the drain very fast in Pakistan, and probably that is what Pakistanis deserve (according to words of President Musharraf ... Pakistan ka Allah hee hafiz hay). Things are getting from one worse situation to another. Jobs in Pakistan are again on 'sale'. Merit has gone out of window and people are getting government jobs, even in educational institutions, on basis of connections or good payments (rushwat).
You may have heard propaganda of MQM collecting 'Bhatta', but compare to crooks and thugs of PPP, PMLN, and others, even if it is true, those 'Bhatta' is peanuts. I heard today that one big industrial group of Pakistan got demand for '15 billion rupees' as 'Bhatta' ... not from MQM but from ... I am leaving that for you to guess :).
Today, many industrialists have started getting demands to pay millions or ..., that is causing industrialists closing down their businesses and moving out of Pakistan. During last 6 months, according to some estimate, people have moved around $70 billion dollars out of Pakistan. Today, even property prices in Pakistan are crashing fast as people could not find buyers.