That's a good one.
So Americans DICTATE to Saudis what they want from Pakistan, and then Saudis come to Pakistan and ADVISE us what America wants.
Btw, my dear, American dont have to tell Saudis what they want from Pakistan, they can compel Pakistan any day any time and force them to do as per their motive.
I have no idea where do you bring these ideas from!!!
Re: Double standards? Pak media hates Americans but Loves Arab interference
US has doen nothing but use Pakistan as its pawn in international geopolitics. Arab nations including KSA, have stood by us, when we were isolated internationally. They are closer to us in terms of regional alliances, geopolitics, and share the same religion.
We don't need some has-been columnist to tell us what we should or should not be doing vis-a-vis international alliances
US has doen nothing but use Pakistan as its pawn in international geopolitics. Arab nations including KSA, have stood by us, when we were isolated internationally. They are closer to us in terms of regional alliances, geopolitics, and share the same religion.
We don't need some has-been columnist to tell us what we should or should not be doing vis-a-vis international alliances
Care to elaborate what did these "Arab nations" do for Kashmir issue?
Re: Double standards? Pak media hates Americans but Loves Arab interference
Arab nations have done nothing but promote the Pakistani establishment in it's goals to create "strategic depth" and an army of jihadis which has come home to bite us in the a**. Saudi's only concern is to contain Iran and they have used Pakistan for that reason by funneling money to Taliban through us.
As for giving us money, if that's the criteria of friendship alone, US would be our best friend. We are the 3rd largest recipient of US foreign aid after Israel and Egypt. So before you all act holier than though about Israel getting so much money from the US, don't forget without the US, Pakistan would be completely bankrupt.
Re: Double standards? Pak media hates Americans but Loves Arab interference
^^ I have already told you who cares about US , not even 1% out of 170 millions. All muslim countries are our friends specially gulf are out of best of those.Your slavery mindset say you to praise white masters, then do it yourself, its nothing to do with us here in Pakistan OK
Care to elaborate what did these "Arab nations" do for Kashmir issue?
What the hell we have done ourselves in 60 yaers that we start blaming others.UN resolutions then Musharraf 14 solutions ,then AJK ex PM solutions tom dick CBMs etc etc. Kashmiris took active role in recently Kashmir elections shows they dont want any more Jihadi mess and maar dhaar.They want education and economic stability .Let Kashmiris decide what they want. Gulf and Arab give us billions of dollars in aid and in oil ,in earthquake,floods etc etc. What else you want !
^^ I have already told you who cares about US , not even 1% out of 170 millions. All muslim countries are our friends specially gulf are out of best of those.Your slavery mindset say you to praise white masters, then do it yourself, its nothing to do with us here in Pakistan OK
Who cares? Every one in the pakistani establishment and army who is sustained by US $$s cares! Pakistan would be a figment of your imagination without US support.
Re: Double standards? Pak media hates Americans but Loves Arab interference
Pakistan financial support to US, i agree :k:
Care to elaborate what did these "Arab nations" do for Kashmir issue?
First, lets make a distinction between "Arab nations" and the Arab nations like Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and other Friends of Pakistan, which have consistently voted for upholding the UN resolutions in support of the Kashmiri Pleb, have channeled funding in support of the Kashmir issue, and have supported AJK's government through earmarked funding.
First, lets make a distinction between "Arab nations" and the Arab nations like Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and other Friends of Pakistan, which have consistently voted for upholding the UN resolutions in support of the Kashmiri Pleb, have channeled funding in support of the Kashmir issue, and have supported AJK's government through earmarked funding.
What kind of "distinctions" do you want to make between Arab nations and Saudi Arabia?
Where does Saudi Arabia stand on Kashmir issue today? What about Palestine?
What the hell we have done ourselves in 60 yaers that we start blaming others.UN resolutions then Musharraf 14 solutions ,then AJK ex PM solutions tom dick CBMs etc etc. Kashmiris took active role in recently Kashmir elections shows they dont want any more Jihadi mess and maar dhaar.They want education and economic stability .Let Kashmiris decide what they want. Gulf and Arab give us billions of dollars in aid and in oil ,in earthquake,floods etc etc. What else you want !
You are mixing few things and getting emotional about it, keep emotions aside then reiterate.
US also gives us billions in aid, offers physiacl support on ground during earth quake relief activities etc., what else do you want? Point: They are both the same.
KSA: OIC Contact Group 22
Kashmir: Saudi Arabia reaffirms support
Saudi ready to help solving Kashmir issue
Azad blames Saudi funds for Kashmir trouble -DAWN - International; July 14, 2008
Palestinian issues have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
Re: Double standards? Pak media hates Americans but Loves Arab interference
Saudi Arabia provides funding to the Government of Pakistan specifically ear marked for Kashmir. KSA actively brings up the issue when they are part of the UNSC and more importantly bully some of our arab brothers (like Qatar) to voting in favour of such resolutions instead of abstaining as requested by the Indians.
Just to point out something. During the Kashmir Earthquake Arab countries provided 850 million dollars in cash to Pakistan. And another 400 million in supplies.
Far more than the west which provided a total of 300 million in cash and supplies.
For those who tell the tall stories about KSA's Ali baba and 40 thieves, must remember that we may have one Ali baba in KSA who supports Pakistani causes, but there 40 times more thieves who support the destruction of our shcools, and killing of our innocent citizens and our army jawans. So do keep this in perspective.
The other tall story of Kashmir support is the biggest hogwash.
Has KSA or any major Arab cut off ties with India? Like Pakistan did by cutting off contacts with Israel?
Heck even Palestinians continuously sit in the lap of Indian butchers of Kashmir and yet the la la land stories about Arabs go on and on and on.
For those who tell the tall stories about KSA's Ali baba and 40 thieves, must remember that we may have one Ali baba in KSA who supports Pakistani causes, but there 40 times more thieves who support the destruction of our shcools, and killing of our innocent citizens and our army jawans. So do keep this in perspective.
The other tall story of Kashmir support is the biggest hogwash.
Has KSA or any major Arab cut off ties with India? Like Pakistan did by cutting off contacts with Israel?
Heck even Palestinians continuously sit in the lap of Indian butchers of Kashmir and yet the la la land stories about Arabs go on and on and on.
You always dream about Petro-Dollars blah blah .They are not provided by Saudi Kingdom .Plus Talibans dont only rely upon those petro-dollars.There 70% funding is from Heroin of Afghanistan(90% of heroin in the world is produced by Afghanistan) and CIA/RAW/KGB/MOSAD etc fund Talibans mostly with Heroin money. Its major game of geo-political snatching of this region to keep eye on Russia/China and to snatch Central Asia energy reserves and indirect funding biggest share holder is CIA and RAW to economically collapse PAkistan(foreign investment and tourism is almost 0% due to CIA/RAW/MOSAD efforts )and so that its Nuclear Capability would no longer of any use .
.....Its major game of geo-political snatching of this region to keep eye on Russia/China and to snatch Central Asia energy reserves ....
OK. Agreed that USA wants to Turkman gas and oil.
But our genius bro!
come out of rhetoric and think for a moment, that how can you get Turkmen resources if you with your own hands burn all the routes to bring those resources out of the region?
This is the example of most convoluted, constipated conspiracy theory, that USA's goal will be undermined by a US agency called CIA by creating instability in Afghanistan as per your reason:
.....CIA/RAW/KGB/MOSAD etc fund Talibans mostly with Heroin money. ......
And then burning down all the rail, road links to get that oil to a decent port by destroying Pakistan.
........ economically collapse PAkistan(foreign investment and tourism is almost 0% due to ....
This is the hight of genius-ism that is oh so common among Arab street. Now thanks to same conspiratorial thinking, Pakistani street too is stuck in the dirty mud of self-created instability. A tiny country like Afghanistan with population equals to a large Pakistani city is so hard to pacify.
Then you think 200 million population in Pakistan will be even more easier if God Forbid, the country ever becomes destabilized.
Our genius bro. quit reading the Jihadi website and try to understand, that USA's interests are "undermined" by instability in Afghanistan and Pakistan and "not the other way around".
The Saudi dent: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HA28Df02.html
I didn’t ask about “Palestinian issue”, I asked about Palestinian leadership supporting Pakistan or India over Kashmir? I remember Yasir Arafat going gaga over India.
For those who tell the tall stories about KSA's Ali baba and 40 thieves, must remember that we may have one Ali baba in KSA who supports Pakistani causes, but there 40 times more thieves who support the destruction of our shcools, and killing of our innocent citizens and our army jawans. So do keep this in perspective.
The other tall story of Kashmir support is the biggest hogwash.
Has KSA or any major Arab cut off ties with India? Like Pakistan did by cutting off contacts with Israel?
Heck even Palestinians continuously sit in the lap of Indian butchers of Kashmir and yet the la la land stories about Arabs go on and on and on.
This time I am not trolling. Do you seriously have that much hatred built up inside that you can't even accept reality?
You say Keep it in perspective yet ignore information that proves you wrong. KSA provides Pakistan substantive support on the Kashmir issue. Regardless of your delusions these are the facts. You can ignore them all you want but they don't change the realities on the ground.
Pakistan never had ties with Israel so what did we cut off? The Arab countries voted in Favour of Pakistan when India wanted to join the OIC and they regularly refuse India's request to join the OIC.
Want more facts for you to ignore?
OK. Agreed that USA wants to Turkman gas and oil.
But our genius bro!
come out of rhetoric and think for a moment, that how can you get Turkmen resources if you with your own hands burn all the routes to bring those resources out of the region?
This is the example of most convoluted, constipated conspiracy theory, that USA's goal will be undermined by a US agency called CIA by creating instability in Afghanistan as per your reason:
And then burning down all the rail, road links to get that oil to a decent port by destroying Pakistan.
This is the hight of genius-ism that is oh so common among Arab street. Now thanks to same conspiratorial thinking, Pakistani street too is stuck in the dirty mud of self-created instability. A tiny country like Afghanistan with population equals to a large Pakistani city is so hard to pacify.
Then you think 200 million population in Pakistan will be even more easier if God Forbid, the country ever becomes destabilized.
Our genius bro. quit reading the Jihadi website and try to understand, that USA's interests are "undermined" by instability in Afghanistan and Pakistan and "not the other way around".
Its not Jehadi stuff,its the reality of what MOSAD did in past 60 years in differnt countries also in Iraq etc
This time I am not trolling. Do you seriously have that much hatred built up inside that you can't even accept reality?
You say Keep it in perspective yet ignore information that proves you wrong. KSA provides Pakistan substantive support on the Kashmir issue. Regardless of your delusions these are the facts. You can ignore them all you want but they don't change the realities on the ground.
Pakistan never had ties with Israel so what did we cut off? The Arab countries voted in Favour of Pakistan when India wanted to join the OIC and they regularly refuse India's request to join the OIC.
Want more facts for you to ignore?
Hatred? Never.
Unlike many mental-slaves of KSA, the reality is quite different. You gotta travel extensively through Arab countries to figure this out. A Hujj or Umra doesn't count.
You gotta sit in desert oasis with Saudis, sip gahwa, and figure out what their vision is, and the way they look at Pakistan. You gotta go visit dusty streets of Cairo off the beaten path and try to understand how Egyptians view Pakistanis. Go visit Palestinian ghettos in Jordan and Lebanon and see how they view Pakistanis.
It is not Saudis or Arabs' fault the way they look at Pakistan, No! Rather it is the Arab-bazi of many Pakistani intellectuals who do not see the reality. Poor thangs are so Arab-baz that they just see ghotra and toap and go ga ga.