Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

[hareem01]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

according to staitistics ..93% of muslim world is sunni..rest 7% muslim world is composed of shias....you can imagine the ratio...93/7 and conclude yourself thier no. of mosques and institutions...

thats right

sure, there is no argument they have been persecuted and its wrong, its beyond wrong, its pathetic.

Yet, it does not give Iran the right to persecute sunnis now, does it.

PS: in case you missed it, oh yeah.. I went there.

good point.

[sweet_taboo]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

Fraudz and Hyperactive, this bullehshah dude is neither Shi'ah nor Sunni, or even Paki... I bet the guy is some Shaitanpreet Kutta from across the Wagah border. He's pretending to be an Urdu speaking Shi'ah from Karachi-Pak but most Urdu speaking people I know haven't even heard of Bulleh Shah so plz iss ki baaton mein mat aao, 'bulleshah' seems the obvious choice for a pseudonym for his kind to pose as Pakis.

We have our differences, woh hamaarey aapas ki baat hai, don't give them the pleasure of seeing us argue.

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

thanks bro, i have no intention to get into a sectarian 'fight' whether it is from someone who belongs to a sect among muslims, or whether it is someone who is trying to cause friction.

argument- i.e. discussing different aspects of some situation, discussion is okay, I have no intention of getting in fights. :)

PS: baba bulleh shah is known among urdu speaking community and specially after some songs and all more ppl know about him.

[hareem01]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

@ sweet_taboo......language please bro....

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

HYper good post. I had heard about this program but never saw it. thanks

[Hyperactive]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

@sweet_taboo

Fraudz and Hyperactive, this bullehshah dude is neither Shi'ah nor Sunni, or even Paki... I bet the guy is some Shaitanpreet Kutta from across the Wagah border. He's pretending to be an Urdu speaking Shi'ah from Karachi-Pak but most Urdu speaking people I know haven't even heard of Bulleh Shah so plz iss ki baaton mein mat aao, 'bulleshah' seems the obvious choice for a pseudonym for his kind to pose as Pakis.

We have our differences, woh hamaarey aapas ki baat hai, don't give them the pleasure of seeing us argue.

This BS guy is just confused that's all...All that propaganda and media can influence even a smart guy and they start uttering everything from Fox and CNN so what can you expect from this simple chap...

[bullehshah]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

@sweet_taboo

Fraudz and Hyperactive, this bullehshah dude is neither Shi'ah nor Sunni, or even Paki... I bet the guy is some Shaitanpreet Kutta from across the Wagah border. He's pretending to be an Urdu speaking Shi'ah from Karachi-Pak but most Urdu speaking people I know haven't even heard of Bulleh Shah so plz iss ki baaton mein mat aao, 'bulleshah' seems the obvious choice for a pseudonym for his kind to pose as Pakis.

We have our differences, woh hamaarey aapas ki baat hai, don't give them the pleasure of seeing us argue.

Quote me where did I say I was Shi'a? All you do is slander, try using the time to get yourself a boyfriend.

[bullehshah]

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@Hyperactive

Look at the video…This is a video from the most holiest of holy places for a Muslim…It is the place in which Quran forbids even killing of an ant let alone harming another human being…It is Makkah, the sanctuary from the rest of the world for a Muslim…

So how can anyone trust someone who can attack his own holy sanctuary…

It’s best to keep such a menace in check…

[bullehshah]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

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***that Fatwa did a lot for Shia Sunni relations, but Saddam came along and ruined it.
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**General Zia ul Haq also had done his share as well. **

[Pathani]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

I know for a fact, it was made clear to have the policy not to welcome Shia students and other various none-Sunni sects. In some student orgs, its even in their "aaiin". Its a "closed" association. I had huge arguements with some of them in scandinavia.

I hate to label myself as Shia or Sunni or whatever.
Muslim should do it. Who doe it concern what sect I belong to?

Its really sad to see, young socalled educated people being very narrow minded and PRACTICING the same BS as their families from Pakistan or whatever 3rd world country.

If they are so firm in their faith, why are they afraid of any who is differently than them? And when you ask them, why they practice something or activities that has nothing to do with Islam and kinda making parents insecure.....you get a door slammed at your face.....thats how they handle questions....lol

I must confess, at times, our Muslim brethen judge each other more than Europeans or atheists..... Yeah, sorry to speak out loud and try not to take it personal here at Forum.

[Pathani]

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Like they put them in their place in iran :) and is it putting all sunnis or only the wahabbified sunnis that we are referring to

So that gives every 3rd world country in Asia where Sunnis are majority the loving right to kill/torture/etc ALL other various Islamic sects under the sun? Even in a country as Bahrain where Shias are the majority, they get to feel the love of Sunni runned goverment...lol

I cant understand why a majority feels threatened by other minorities?

[sweet_taboo]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

@bullehshah

Quote me where did I say I was Shi'a? All you do is slander, try using the time to get yourself a boyfriend.

Astaghferullah, Ramadan ka to koi ehtaram karo.

I was in town today Eid shopping and this tanned up hunk with dirty blonde hair, emerald green eyes and ripped jeans kept giving me the eye, he looked kind of Romanian or something but I kept my gaze lowered, reminds me of an ex "Hindu" woman from my maternal village who converted to Islam, before Islam they ate anything (wild cats/mice you name), then they became Muslim and started visiting Muslim families, one day she was round for a cup of tea at my maternal family's house and see's a cat and says "maano dikha le muchen, jo tere aur mere beech mein kalimah na hota to ab tak mein ne teri haandiya paka li hoti".

[Pathani]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

@sweet_taboo

Astaghferullah, Ramadan ka to koi ehtaram karo.

I was in town today Eid shopping and this tanned up hunk with dirty blonde hair, emerald green eyes and ripped jeans kept giving me the eye, he looked kind of Romanian or something but I kept my gaze lowered, reminds me of an ex "Hindu" woman from my maternal village who converted to Islam, before Islam they ate anything (wild cats/mice you name), then they became Muslim and started visiting Muslim families, one day she was round for a cup of tea at my maternal family's house and see's a cat and says "maano dikha le muchen, jo tere aur mere beech mein kalimah na hota to ab tak mein ne teri haandiya paka li hoti".

Brother Sweet_taboo, Im not here to judge you..... You made it hard for yourself to get your point of view across by sharing your "taboo" part of life/events/etc..... Perhaps a new ID would help you?

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

@Pathani

So that gives every 3rd world country in Asia where Sunnis are majority the loving right to kill/torture/etc ALL other various Islamic sects under the sun? Even in a country as Bahrain where Shias are the majority, they get to feel the love of Sunni runned goverment...lol

I cant understand why a majority feels threatened by other minorities?

I think bulleshah asked the same question and I had already answered what I had meant initially, even though I did not feel that an explanation was needed.

did you miss the following post of mine or does that leave something to be desired in terms of clarification, or did you just miss it. I think the post leaves no major questions on where I stand when we talk about religious and sectarian oppression.

what I stated was that the treatment of shia by sunni regimes is inexcusable

and that does not justify how Iran treats its sunni (or other minorities)

dont get me wrong. My view is that we have to stand firm on this stuff...no discrminiation, no oppression, against anyone, whether they are shia, sunni, ahmedi, bahai, christian, hindu, rastafarian, druid, wiccan whatever.

when we say oh well this is not as bad as that, lets make sure we are not using that comparison to justify wrong acts by one group or nation because they are less than the other nation.

[sweet_taboo]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

@Pathani

Brother Sweet_taboo, Im not here to judge you..... You made it hard for yourself to get your point of view across by sharing your "taboo" part of life/events/etc..... Perhaps a new ID would help you?

Chill out aapi, men ne yeh to naheen kaha ke mein ne kuch kiya tha, ya phir yeh ke kuch karna jaaez hai.

Jahaan tak feelings ki baat hai, unn pe pehre naheen lagaaey ja saktey, mujhe naheen lagta ke sirf feelings se gunaah milta hoga..

[bullehshah]

Re: Do you think the Shias, Bohris and other sects feel left out in the West?

@sweet_taboo

Astaghferullah, Ramadan ka to koi ehtaram karo.

I was in town today Eid shopping and this tanned up hunk with dirty blonde hair, emerald green eyes and ripped jeans kept giving me the eye, he looked kind of Romanian or something but I kept my gaze lowered, reminds me of an ex "Hindu" woman from my maternal village who converted to Islam, before Islam they ate anything (wild cats/mice you name), then they became Muslim and started visiting Muslim families, one day she was round for a cup of tea at my maternal family's house and see's a cat and says "maano dikha le muchen, jo tere aur mere beech mein kalimah na hota to ab tak mein ne teri haandiya paka li hoti".

I think I just threw up in my mouth.

[Pathani]

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@Fraudz

I think bulleshah asked the same question and I had already answered what I had meant initially, even though I did not feel that an explanation was needed.

did you miss the following post of mine or does that leave something to be desired in terms of clarification, or did you just miss it. I think the post leaves no major questions on where I stand when we talk about religious and sectarian oppression.

I think, I did miss your posts Frauds.....so sorry on that account.

Sweet_taboo
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Chill out aapi, men ne yeh to naheen kaha ke mein ne kuch kiya tha, ya phir yeh ke kuch karna jaaez hai.

Jahaan tak feelings ki baat hai, unn pe pehre naheen lagaaey ja saktey, mujhe naheen lagta ke sirf feelings se gunaah milta hoga..
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Well, Ive worked with youth with identity problems all sort of categories. I didnt comment your exposure..... I dont mind taking hits by sharing from my personal experience now and then. The point is, I wasnt the culprit. Now your part is different here. If you are ok with it, then so be it. I respect your decision.