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Hilary once made 1000000 dollars from a 1000 dollar investment in cattle futures. She must know her pigs pretty well.
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The.half truth that middle class will pay more taxes is just that. Because they will save in healthcare.
As for projections 4 years out if Sanders will he a one term projection, they are worth notn.
Playing on an argument, for clarity sake. Please explain:
I don't mind paying extra for the benefit we will all utilize. I pay taxes now, and I see they're used to maintain roadways, salt the streets during snowstorms, maintain other human services, etc. It's all fine. But, what if I don't want to get tagged with taxes for my next door neighbor who is a habitual drinker (leading to kidney failure), chain smoker (leading to various diseases), loves his/her big macs (obesity), and these are all things he/she can control. So, because of his/her poor voluntary choices, I should pay a part of their treatments that could otherwise have been averted if he/she practiced moderate health to begin with?
You understand what I mean? Where is the safety net to insure that if I pay into the combined pool, yet withdraw little or no benefit, I should be reimbursed to compensate me, or to reward me for maintaining a healthier lifestyle. Wouldn't that be a better incentive? And maybe this is something that has been mentioned as being a part of the broader policy, I do not know, and please excuse me for my ignorance.
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NRA has always had many many sweethearts among democrats as well as republicans. Nothing new here. Don’t want your politicians in the pockets of lobbyists, dont vote for people whose campaigns are financed by these lobbies - which is the main cancer infesting America today - everything from war lobbies to obesity lobby.
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Playing on an argument, for clarity sake. Please explain:
I don't mind paying extra for the benefit we will all utilize. I pay taxes now, and I see they're used to maintain roadways, salt the streets during snowstorms, maintain other human services, etc. It's all fine. But, what if I don't want to get tagged with taxes for my next door neighbor who is a habitual drinker (leading to kidney failure), chain smoker (leading to various diseases), loves his/her big macs (obesity), and these are all things he/she can control. So, because of his/her poor voluntary choices, I should pay a part of their treatments that could otherwise have been averted if he/she practiced moderate health to begin with?
You understand what I mean? Where is the safety net to insure that if I pay into the combined pool, yet withdraw little or no benefit, I should be reimbursed to compensate me, or to reward me for maintaining a healthier lifestyle. Wouldn't that be a better incentive? And maybe this is something that has been mentioned as being a part of the broader policy, I do not know, and please excuse me for my ignorance.
You will Pay more in taxes, and get back more in savings from the health care plan. So yo come out ahead. The Clinton camp is stating half the truth - taxes will he raised.nwhile omitting the savings from healthcare plant hat are more than tax increase.
Hence the point you made about having to pay MORE for someone else's poor health is moot. Because you will pay LESS.
Lot of times, poor health is not just a choice. Those who earn minimum wage and having to work 60 to 80 hrs per week also live bin areas where you don't have good supermarkets with healthy food. The increase in taxes would help level the playing field. Soo ELEVERYONE has access to healthy food. Which will LOWER healthcare costs.
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Hence the point you made about having to pay MORE for someone else's poor health is moot. Because you will pay LESS.
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And by FSM's grace that we even pass this single payer plan (lol), the democrats would lose the next election when (gasp!) the taxes on middle class go up by ~$5000 each. Sanders is adding $15T in extra spending yet he isn't or hasn't said anything about cutting the ever rising defense spending. That is the only area that you can logically cut aside from SS / Medicare but those oldies actually vote in elections.
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As stated earlier the tax increase will be ACCOMPANIED by savings from health plan (lol).
Sanders has always railed against unnecessary wars. Inaccurate to state he is not tatting cuts in defense spending. Only Hillary Commaneci woukd make such a stretch.
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Bernie Sanders on Military and Veterans
Here is what Sanders has said about defense spending and unnecessary wars. Naysayers throw stuff. But thankfully the Internets r there
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Bernie Sanders Would Find Plenty to Cut in the Defense Budget - US News
Here is Sanders track record on fighting rising defense budgets.
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Bernie Sanders’ single-payer plan explained.