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I wasnt emphasising on the fact that i have the guards, i was emphasising on the fact that they were away casting hundreds of votes during the election. You only seem to read what you want to?!
As far as prostitution is concerned, army generals are supposed to be getting laid in the middle of a war with a country four times our size?!
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In case you didnt realise the president has been the C in C for several decades now!?
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Why during war ppl dont get horny. Whats the big deal!!!
I guess using your analogy if the country was only twice the size of Pakistan instead of four times the size of Pakistan oral sex should have been sufficient.
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That validates my point even more that our system is broken and needs to be fixed, and that USA has nothing to do with our broken system.
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Bravo, army generals having sex at the frontlines, no wonder it was the biggest muslim army ever in history to have laid down its arms. The army chief was continuedly slapped and stripped off his badges as the world watched, what grcae, what glory, WOW!(wish it was me) For people like me who love this country it was a disgrace, the generals arent doing their job if theyre having sex on the frontlines, they are amongst the most privlidged people in Pakistan and yet they dont do their job rite. Like IK Gujral put it, every country has an army, the Pakistani army has a country. If a general can single handedly carry out the Kargil operation, he can do anything. Musharraf refused to meet Vajpayee on the latters visit to Lahore coz he’d have to salute him and he said so publically, he single handedly carried out the Kargil operation without any sort of approval from the the head of state or gonvernment.
And about the danda issue, since i havent come across such a guru i believe its necessary, the ordinary man in Pakistan doesnt have a life, he lives in hell. When the mehran of a middle income person is stolen, he has to visit the police station everyday and yet he has no chance of meeting the SHO forget getting his car back, on the other hand when the mercedes of a so-called elite(i dont consider them the elite class, i consider them the kanjar class) is stolen, the DIG will personally visit his house and produce the car within 24 hours!? do u disagree?! Nothing is impossible for the police in Pakistan. You either be a badmaash or u live in hell, i can tell you that from my experience as i dont belong to any ‘elite class’ that you were referring to.
How can u guess im related to rafiq Tarar? There are over 200 villages from where Tarars come. Not all of them are related to him.
The rule of Shahbaz Sharif was the only time in Punjab when people got justice, those who were robbed, those who were raped, those whose relatives were killed. I dont care if his brother was corrupt or if even he was, his rule saw an end to the notorious badmaash culture in Punjab. In my native Gujranwala which was notorious for such badmaashs, people finally started saying ‘bhai saab’ instead of ‘oye pehn dash’.
His answer was simple, he killed a few badmaash people in fake police encounters at the beginning and after that noone had the balls to do anything.
This is my country and I love it, thats why i aint goin abroad lookin for a better life…rather stayin rite here, doin my CSS AND THEN HELP FIND THE POOR MANS MEHRAN. That would be my contribution towards fixing the flawed system that you were pointing to.
And just in case you dont live in Pakistan, dont point your finger at the flawed system, coz u aint doin anything to put it rite rather you’re just ‘wining’
coz most people like living abroad and saying that the flaw lies with the Pakistani system, they aint doin anything to fix this system, so mite as well keep shut.
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^^ Well good luck in your new endeavors....CSS....etc...whatever. I wish you well. Keep us posted if you find the stolen car.
Once you become a Civil Servant I would recommend that you do try to change the very laws that your are b1tching about rather than looking for stolen cars and trying to figure out how I came to the conclusion based on your last name.
P.S If you dont make it in CSS you can always write a book titled "THE POOR MANS MEHRAN" and hope it wins a pulitzer prize.
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hahaha, real funny boy
where do u live in 'changarrland' where civil servants make laws? wonderful boy, a police SP or SSP making laws about military intervention, im with ya, go go go!
Thats the politicians job? You arent aware with how laws are passed i guess?! too badd!
Ending up in police a CSS officer gotta find the car dude, thats part of his job, and like you said in his free time he sits in the national assembly and passes laws about military intervention.
You people live abroad and bitch about this country when you dont even know what goes on here!
Just something i thought i should share.......nowadays the laws are passed by the speaker of the national assembly at the orders of the General even before it is debated in the national assembly
but still dude,** what kinda funny ass place do u live in where civil servants have the authority to pass legislation regarding military intervention, i wanna see that place!!!**
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at first u were arguin bout the danda and other problems, but since u and ure guru dont have an answer anymore, its ok u can be all funny!
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He lives in lala land, where a paan-wala makes laws and government follows them strictly.
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or maybe he lives in happyland with mickey, goofy and the rest of the gang, where you dont need a danda and everything is well for the ordinary cartoon.
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There you go Bilal, Cupstaaan saaab knows more about my dwellings than I know. I hope the paan wala is a joke and not real otherwise pakistan is dooomed.
On a serious note arent Judges and other civil servants go through CSS exams??
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CSS is for civil services like police, foreign service, customs, etc.
judges dont make law, they only interpret it in the light of the case at hand, who taught you law? judges only interpret law, in a democracy like the UK, the houses of parliament pass the law before the queen gives royal assent. The house of commons which consists of the peoples representitives passes it, then the house of lords has to pass it (kinda like a formality) and then the queen fulfills her formality. So bascially, my pyaara, innocent baybeee, law is supposed to be made by the representitives of the people, not judges, not civil servants.** Thats what this democracy thing is all about, seriously dont tell me u didnt know law was passed by representitives of the people**. Ever heard for the people, by the people..............
The wat u talk, like an innocent little baybee, makes me wanna give u a biiiigggggg kiss MUUUAAAAAAAAHHH!( u knw like em cute kiddies)
I GUESS YOU DONT LIVE HERE SO YOU HAVENT EXPERIENCED WATS GOIN ON IN THIS PLACE RECENTLY, YOU HAVE NO IDEA, I MADE OUT FROM URES AND URE GURUS CONCLUSION OF THE DANDA. A person who thinks the ordinary man can live a god life without a danda, sure doesnt know whats going on in Pakistan.
so now judges make law eh?(the funny ass place u live in) in happyland? whos the judge? MICKEY MOUSE?!?!
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^^ :D Grav what school did you go to?
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yaar, the more you talk more it exposes your “knowledge” so why don’t you just zip it? 
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Back on topic. The US is a super power it can do whatever it wants and it has never ever done anything that is morally right. It has attacked countries on its mere whim. The concept of asking for a fair and morally upstanding US govt is like asking Americans on this webforum to be realistic. It will never happen. The EU with all its racist past is still by far a more morally inclined and honorable society and govt than the US will ever be.
The US is a morally defunct govt worshipping the All Mighty Dollar and Oil. They have no moral backbone or ground to stand on. Even their own ideology is as morally defunct as is their leadership.
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I went to Stanford university where they also taught me that China was a christain nation. I guess thats why I was sort of confused as to which b1tch was passing laws in Pakistan, It appears the friggin country is pretty lawless.
I just heard that yesterday my friend in Lahore Model Town was robbed in broad daylight by some men wearing police uniform, hard to tell friend from foe. I admit I was wrong partially Billa was right. Move on.org
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Good, so u get my point, had ure friend been carrying a danda (a toyota hilux packed with armed guards) like the class u call elite does, no way he wouldve been robbed. People are robbed at 9 in the mornin nowadays.
Seriously, u dont knw that in a democracy or a so-called democracy that pakistani is, the laws are passed by the parliament. Well, the parliament passes them in the west, the retired general passes em here, so ure confused and dont knw what goes on in the country, nice of u to point fingers at the flawed system and giving suggestions to solve it!
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yea i think CMs rite, but theres got to be an end to this injustice (iraq can never be justified)
i believe everything reaches its peak and then starts to decline, and so will this injustice of the USA in the near future!