Re: Defence Day - 6 September 2007 - Nishan-i-Haider Quiz
Respected Brother
A bundle of thanks for sharing this valuable information with us. Please enlighten me on few more points as follows:
What does it mean? Does it mean that he is being considered for the next award of Nishan-e-Haider? If yes, what are his credentials viz, his action/adventure, unit etc etc.
Please explain the term "on equivalence".
Same querry about "on equivalence". Is it something to do with Rangers, FC etc.
Dr Sufi,
Thanks for the feedback and info sir.
Actually I'm also not too sure about what this particular 'equivalence' of the Hilal-i-Kashmir awarded to Naik Saif Ali in being 'equivalent' to Nishan-i-Haider really means, and although I had been hearing of it since last August in 2006 I was not convinced and considered it misinformation, however I was confirmed this year esp in Aug and Sep that the GoP, MoD and Army have accepted the AK Highest Award of Hilal-i-Kashmir as *equivalent *to Nishan-i-Haider in stature, thus the HK earned by Naik Saif Ali in 1940s somewhere in Kashmir, is held as 'equivalent' to NH.
I haven't come across any official citation, nor notification or article of the equivalent status nor on Naik Saif Ali or his feats. I have however seen and observed Naik Saif Ali being regraded officially as equal to NH due to his HK on official Govt or Army celebrations, portraits, collages and office walls and lists.
The official portrairs are now 11, and officiallists include Naik Saif Ali and even on 6 Sep 2007 when as per tradition since 1965 Gens lay wreaths on graves and memorials of NH recipients and other martyrs, a Gen laid wreaths at the grave of Naik Saif Ali, recognizing him as a recipient of HK equivalent to NH, but not NH itself.
As for the citation for his martyrdom, I wonder why it hasnt been released yet, or maybe I havent seen it yet. I too have been extremely keen on trying to find out what his story was, who he was, where from, how he was martyred, where and why he was given an equivalent status, and that too decaeds later...? So far all I know is he belonged to the AK Regt, or maybe being a Kashmir effort martyr he has been adopted by AK Regt.
I would appreciate it highly if you update me with any info if you gather any on this.
In my humble opinion, every unit with a Nishan-e-Haider Recepient is entitled the honourific title of HAIDERI.
Below is the list of HAIDERI Units of Army.
Captain Muhammad Sarwar Shaheed's Unit Formrly, 2nd Batallion of the 1st Punjab Regiment and later 2nd Punjab "Haideri" Regt.
Major Muhammad Tufail Shaheed's Unit Formerly East Pakistan Rifles and later ____ Punjab Regt. Some say that it is 16 Punjab Regt which, as per my knowledge, is wrong. 16 Punjab Regt was formerly known as 5th Batallion of the 14th Punjab Regt. It is also called 40 Pathans. Anyway it is not the actual unit of Major Muhammad Tufail Shaheed. Please tell me if you happen to know.
Major Raja Abdul Aziz Bhatti Shaheed's Unit Formerly 4th Batallion of the 16th Punjab Regt and later 17 Punjab "Haideri" Regt.
Major Muhammad Akram Shaheed's Unit Formerly 2nd Batallion of the 12th Frontier Force Regt and later 4 FF "Haideri " Regt.
Major Shabbir Shareef Shaheed's Unit Formerly 4th Batallion of the 12th Frontier Force Regt and later 6 FF "Haideri " Regt.
Sawar Muhammad Hussain Shaheed's Unit 20 Lancers "Haideri" Regt
Lance Naik Muhammad Mahfooz Shaheed's Unit Formerly 3rd Batallion of the 16th Punjab Regt and later 15 Punajb "Haideri" Regt. Also known as 33 Muhammadis.
Captain Karnal Sher Khan Shaheed's Unit Parent unit was 27 Sind Regt, but at the time of Shahadat, he was on ERE to 11 NLI "Haideran" Regt.
Havaldar Lalak Jan Shaheed's Unit 11 NLI "Haidran" Regt.
PS: Nishan-e-Haider of Captain Karnal Sher Khan Shaheed is claimed by both 27 Sind Regt and 11 NLI.
11 NLI is the only unit in Pakistan Army with 2 Nishan-e-Haiders and i.e., why it is called "HAIDRAN" instaed of "HAIDAERI".
Please do correct me wherever I am wrong.
Wasallam.
Thanks alot for this detailed info. I may have erred about which units are officially called 'Haidery' and may have confused it with being the only Haidery Regt in 1965 i.e. in 1965 17 Punjab was the only unit awarded the NH.
I too am not sure which Unit Maj Tufail belonged to originally. And it's interesting that Capt Sher Khan's NH is credited by both NLI and Sindh. But I guess both deserve to count it as theirs.
Speaking of Maj Mohd Akram I was wondering, do you have any idea where he is buried because I wonder if his body was found or not, or if found if it was buried in Hilli EP or brought back?
Also, you mentioned Capt Sher Khan was on ERE to NLI. What does ERE mean?
Thanks!