deene islam ki bunyaad sirf quraan hai yaa qurano sunnat?

[lethal_kamikaze]

Re: deene islam ki bunyaad sirf quraan hai yaa qurano sunnat?

Peace @Mughal1,

If you think your long posting, long irrelevant posting will make any difference then I’m afraid you’re wrong. **Please just answer my simple question rather than posting long, very long unbearable posts. :hat: **

@Mughal1

azeezam lethal kamikaze sb, you need to understand the fact that God is God and his messenger is his messenger, nothing less and nothing more.

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@Mughal1

The real point here is, it is God who wanted to send his message for mankind not messenger of God. The part messenger plays in this scheme is message bearer just to pass on God’s message to people.

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@Mughal1

By giving the wrong job description of messenger we are turn him into a God instead of God’s messenger. The messenger was supposed to deliver message of God as it was ie as he received it from God, without adding anything to it or taking away anything from it.

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@Mughal1

After he delivered the message of God as it was, it was then up to people to accept it or reject it. The mistake you are making in trying to understand my explanation is you are not separating the communication chain from the message the chain is supposed to deliver for which the communication chain is set up by God who made sure it worked for his purpose and it does and that is why we have the quran today so many centuries after the messenger of God has gone from this world.

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@Mughal1

Think about why God needed to send his message? It was because he wanted to tell mankind why he created them and what they need to do to fulfil plan and purpose of God. The quran explains all this and that is it. This is why the actual framework or structure of deen of islam has to come from the quran alone not from mixed sources particularly when those sources are prone to making mistakes.

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@Mughal1

Messengers of God have been making mistakes and that is what the quran itself tells us. For this reason God could not tell us to follow them unconditionally that is why whenever God tells us to follow his messenger it means in things which he did according to the quran to fulfil his God given mission and not absolutely in each everything he said or did. To follow anyone absolutely is impossible because one can never know each and everything about anyone, it is limited by natural limitations how much we can know about anyone, so people who tell us we know each and everything about the messenger of God are not realising what they are saying or claiming about messenger of God. Moreover there are things which messengers of Allah said and did which if we did we will become kaafir therefore it is wrong to say we must follow messenger of God absolutely or unlimitedly. So what is so difficult there to understand if people have learned the knowledge they need to make proper sense of the message in the quran? If they have not learned the needed knowledge to understand the message in the quran properly then they cannot understand any explanation no matter how detailed it is.

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@Mughal1

Moreover how can you use a secondary source to interpret the main source if secondary source itself depends upon main source for its qualification? This is why the quran alone has to be foundation of deen of islam. However once we have derived the structure of deen of islam from the quran alone there after we can use all other sources to fill in detailed where need be.

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@Mughal1

Furthermore mullahs have misinterpreted the quran by telling us it is a complete code of life instead of telling us we need to extract framework of deen of islam from the quran to form a complete code of life to live by. The quran does not give us a fully worked out constitution and laws for organising human society and regulating it. This is why we do not have ummah as the prophet left behind after its formation on basis of the quran alone. Unless we go back to the quran alone as foundation of deen of islam there is not going to be any ummah in future either.

regards and all the best.

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