D Company

[queer]

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@cHEeGUm

Funny all you indians in this thread are so engulfed in hating Dawood Ibrahim that youre not even looking at the point of this thread. Haris just wants to know the guy’s life as it is and possibly why he turned out to be the underworld king he is today and how he got about doing so. Everyone is born in a white sheet and its the environment and surroundings that you live in that make a monster out of you.

Like Haris said if you guys enjoyed (and im sure all of you did) watching Godfather 1 2 3, scarface, most robert dinero movies and sanjay dutt movies like vaastav and hathyaar, then this guy’s life can certainly be seen through that lens as well.

I understand why all you indians hate him and he has deserved to be hated, especially since he’s

1. Muslim (or so he thinks)
2. Terrorist
3. Has ties with Javed Miandad ( ).

So stop accusing him of idolizing Dawood Ibrahim and please read threads more carefully before you start posting your useless opinions.

quit being so naive, chee. indians have a load of valid reasons to hate him for all that he has done in bombay in the past decade and a half. and yes, indians hate it even more that pakistan has granted him safe haven, first sneakily and now openly. in pre-delhi-amritsar bus diplomacy times, mushy was out giving press statements ridiculing india’s demands to his extradition with blatant denial of his presence in karachi. please dont expect indians to be thrilled about a bunch of pakistanis elevating a bombay pimp turned ganglord they have saved in the name of religious brotherhood (suckers, but then they fall for it every single time) to godfather proportions. if history is any lesson, just as with the ISI’s other prodigies a la maulana masood azar, this one’s going to come home to roost too. while haris might have meant the thread from a curiosity angle, many of the replies from pakistanis clearly show the response from indians is perfectly justified.

[bitter]

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@cHEeGUm

Funny all you indians in this thread are so engulfed in hating Dawood Ibrahim that youre not even looking at the point of this thread. Haris just wants to know the guy’s life as it is and possibly why he turned out to be the underworld king he is today and how he got about doing so. Everyone is born in a white sheet and its the environment and surroundings that you live in that make a monster out of you.

Like Haris said if you guys enjoyed (and im sure all of you did) watching Godfather 1 2 3, scarface, most robert dinero movies and sanjay dutt movies like vaastav and hathyaar, then this guy’s life can certainly be seen through that lens as well.

I understand why all you indians hate him and he has deserved to be hated, especially since he’s
**

1. Muslim (or so he thinks)
2. Terrorist
3. Has ties with Javed Miandad ( ).**

So stop accusing him of idolizing Dawood Ibrahim and please read threads more carefully before you start posting your useless opinions.

wrong on two counts - if you think we hate him because he is a muslim - then I am sorry thats a very narrow minded view of it. Second point - Who cares a dogs poop if he has ties with any body?

nobody is accusing Haris Zuberi of idolizing - if you care to read beta - its the likes of Guy1 and ma1k who seem to get a kick out of what Dawood does…its their attitude which sux.. a perpetuator of magnitude of crimes he did does not deserve these plaudits - even from the enemy country…I guess you will be as much peeved and irritated if we start eulogising Altaf Hussain..

[skhan]

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Get over yourselves. In this day and age, when people like OBL and Bush can be heroes what's the biggie if Dawood has a few fans?

[Khatmal]

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all he needs is a scar on his face the rest is all there :D

[Haris]

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@cHEeGUm

Funny all you indians in this thread are so engulfed in hating Dawood Ibrahim that youre not even looking at the point of this thread. Haris just wants to know the guy’s life as it is and possibly why he turned out to be the underworld king he is today and how he got about doing so. Everyone is born in a white sheet and its the environment and surroundings that you live in that make a monster out of you.

Like Haris said if you guys enjoyed (and im sure all of you did) watching Godfather 1 2 3, scarface, most robert dinero movies and sanjay dutt movies like vaastav and hathyaar, then this guy’s life can certainly be seen through that lens as well.

I understand why all you indians hate him and he has deserved to be hated, especially since he’s

1. Muslim (or so he thinks)
2. Terrorist
3. Has ties with Javed Miandad ( ).

So stop accusing him of idolizing Dawood Ibrahim and please read threads more carefully before you start posting your useless opinions.

Cheegum
thanks a bunch for getting the point pal!

[Cheegum]

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Queer: you can hate him all you like. Im not entirely fond of him either. But please go open another thread and cuss all you want at him in that thread. This thread, like i said in my post that you quoted, is about discussing his life and possibly why hes ended up being such a crook. If you can throw some light on that subject please do so. Theres no harm in discussing someones life no matter how low theyve been. Hitler was the worlds biggest mass murderer but still people talk about his life. He used to be an artist before his parents forced him to join the forces. He was a vegetarian and never drank alcohol. So theres some interesting info.

Bitter: I laid the bait and you took it. I was being sarcastic there the part that you quoted in bold, especially 1 and 3.

Haris: np, anytime.

PS: Yeah and why does nobody get as enraged when Bush is discussed on the forum. Hes killed thousands and thousands of Iraqi and Afghani civilians in the name of liberating them (from their bodies really). I guess it doesnt matter to you guys as long as hes not killing anybody in your backyard.

[Pinstripe_Danda]

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^ what bullsiht CHee.you want to dicuss his life out of some inspirational interest, catharsis of why he is such an asshole and then get bent out of shape when people whose community was directly affected by the asshole get riled up?

What are you psychologists? Sociologists? Did you put up an excerpt on this terrorist's biography by an author as fodder for discussion? NO..

Haris sounds like 6 year old kid all agog with this "interesting guy" and his time in Bombay. Kind o flike the pakistanis who are all agog with other such great figures like OBL, Talitubby mullahs etc...

Here is a sociological question...what drives Pakistanis to be such admirers of terrorists? Is it innate?

[abc1234]

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Haris

Dawood Ibrahim...who is he? naam kuch suna suna sa laGta hae but i dont think i know who he is...who is he?

[Cheegum]

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Pinstripe if you dont want to discuss his life then keep your sorry ass out of this thread. If you have a problem with us discussing his life then go open a thread in Feedback or something. But dont post here if you dont have anything valuable to contribute. I'm saying this for the fifteenth time we are discussing him not out of inspiration or admiration but out of curiosity. Like what language am i talking in here man? Is it too fcuking hard to understand? I thought you indians were good at english.

As for your sociological question go open another thread and maybe you can get some answers there. You might also want to cite some examples.

[skhan]

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My my, I certainly will have to do some research on this Dawood guy now. After all, he does have all these bhartis jumping up and down :D

[AQ]

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^ LOL
Dawood Ibraheem nay lagtaa hai pinestripe ko bahut baRaa dandaa kiYaa huvaa hai :D

[nikhil25]

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@cHEeGUm

Funny all you indians in this thread are so engulfed in hating Dawood Ibrahim that youre not even looking at the point of this thread. Haris just wants to know the guy’s life as it is and possibly why he turned out to be the underworld king he is today and how he got about doing so. Everyone is born in a white sheet and its the environment and surroundings that you live in that make a monster out of you.

Like Haris said if you guys enjoyed (and im sure all of you did) watching Godfather 1 2 3, scarface, most robert dinero movies and sanjay dutt movies like vaastav and hathyaar, then this guy’s life can certainly be seen through that lens as well.

I understand why all you indians hate him and he has deserved to be hated, especially since he’s

1. Muslim (or so he thinks)
2. Terrorist
3. Has ties with Javed Miandad ( ).

So stop accusing him of idolizing Dawood Ibrahim and please read threads more carefully before you start posting your useless opinions.

there is a huge difference between western mafia and the bombay underworld. it’s nothing “cool” like the italian mafias we have all come to idolize. the bombay underworld has no flashy cars with packs of men in expensive suits and shiny guns. it’s a bunch of dirtball desis in the slums…with ultimately 2 real “dons”, one who lives in secrecy in karachi…and the other who lives in secrecy in malaysia/singapore/dubai. these “mafias” are nothing but 3rd world gangs, not organized crime syndicates like the sicilian and italian mobs. that’s why they’re called the “dawood gang” and the “rajan gang”.

extortion of a handful of bollywood producers, extraction of 5% fees on large real estate deals, and hijacking of delivery trucks is nothing. they’re all small-time criminal activities, just multiplied and compounded to create a large underworld. they all still remain in fear of the police (who they have not been able to bribe), and have never made any real penetration into the poltical world - which is where the real power lies.

[ashtray]

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I liked Company, one of the few indian flicks I watched in recent years.

[Sharaabi]

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@nikhil25

there is a huge difference between western mafia and the bombay underworld. it’s nothing “cool” like the italian mafias we have all come to idolize. the bombay underworld has no flashy cars with packs of men in expensive suits and shiny guns. it’s a bunch of dirtball desis in the slums…with ultimately 2 real “dons”, one who lives in secrecy in karachi…and the other who lives in secrecy in malaysia/singapore/dubai. these “mafias” are nothing but 3rd world gangs, not organized crime syndicates like the sicilian and italian mobs. that’s why they’re called the “dawood gang” and the “rajan gang”.

extortion of a handful of bollywood producers, extraction of 5% fees on large real estate deals, and hijacking of delivery trucks is nothing. they’re all small-time criminal activities, just multiplied and compounded to create a large underworld. they all still remain in fear of the police (who they have not been able to bribe), and have never made any real penetration into the poltical world - which is where the real power lies.

oh really… No wonder, a couple of years ago, the Indian Government decided to seize some of Dawood’s property, and sell it away. The organized an auction and guess what…No one showed up.

[nikhil25]

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@Sharaabi

oh really… No wonder, a couple of years ago, the Indian Government decided to seize some of Dawood’s property, and sell it away. The organized an auction and guess what…No one showed up.

what is your point?

why the smile?

[vineshvk]

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If nobody had showed( i doubt so) whats a big deal. The Govt. still has it. Did Dawood's men could do anything on that.
The police was not doing much before as the two gangs were fighting each other. They got into problems with the govt. once they took their dirty jobs into public domain and killed hundreds in the Bombay blast.
Pakistan should be ashamed to have sheltered such a criminal.

[Lajawab]

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Dawood Ibrahim’s story from an Indian who lived in Bombay as told to me:

Dawood Ibrahim’s life began as any other. Turned into the streets by living in slums, Dawood Ibrahim became a much respected name. Not because he was a Ghunda, but he was a ‘just’ Ghunda…He made many Indian slums into proper neighbourhoods, build schools and such. But he still was into drugs, prostitution, racketeering and extortion…

He was big in the movie industry also (RSS hates Shahrukh and Salman and few others, not because they were Muslims, but they were brought into the films by Dawood Ibrahim)…Dawood Ibrahim was also great friends with Sanjay Dutt…

During this time the Bombay ethnic riots happened in which scores of Muslims and Muslim villages and neighbourhoods were decimated by the Hindus…Seeing this, Dawood Ibrahim started shipping in arms and ammunition from Afghanistan and distributing it amongst the Muslim localities…

Many localities resisted his attempts to save them ( among them the Muslims of Gujrat ) judging him by his Bombay notoreity, not realizing that DI was actually curbing all his illegal activities…The reason he started curbing, was that he was now devoting more time Muslim causes…

Also during this time, having become old, he wanted to live his life in peace and make up for the mistakes of his lifetime…He loosened some grip upon the Bombay underworld to the rats the likes of which were Chota Raajan (Three other gangs, two Muslims of whose name I can’t remember)…He then moved to Pakistan…

During all this time, Sanjay Dutt was with him…Sanjay Dutt was actually the link that gave Dawood Ibrahim the opportunity to smuggle arms to the Muslim neighbourhoods, so nothing like the Bombay riots ever take place, and if they should, Muslims should be prepared to rake lives to protect their lives at whatever cost…

The Gujrat massacre of innocent Muslims have hurt DI very much…He has worn to arm every Muslim area with guns and ammo so never should they have to helplessly watch as Hindus massacre their families…

To me, Dawood I is a hero…Sure, he he did his mistakes by going into crime, but now he truly wants to make up for it by making sure every Muslim in India is safe…

We must admire this man for taking care of our brothers and sisters in India amidst a horde of Hindu fanatics, bent on wiping Islam from India…

Let us pray for his success and his health and his longevity, so that he may continue to do his good work, securing and providing safety for Muslims, something which I can’t do sitting here…

Many Muslims here may bad-mouth Dawood Ibrahim for this and that, but that is to be expected…Pleasing others’ egos and providing timely affirmatives to non-Muslims is how many mod-Muslims display their version of Islam…I don’t buy that…If being a Muslim means standing alone for his beliefs and without support (Which it should be), then all I can say is, that may Allah :swt: forgive all of DI’s sins, and give him strength to help the Muslims…Ameen, Summa Ameen…

[Sharaabi]

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The point is, had it not been for Dawood and Co. Bombay would have been another Gujraat.

thankyou...

[Atlantis]

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Chee, you missed the point - Dawood is a pretty darn good experienced terrorist and that's why I suggested him to presidency in pakistan. You'd be quite hard-pressed to come up with anyone as qualified - osama perhaps but he has burnt his bridges with the boss.

[vineshvk]

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@Lajawab

To me, Dawood I is a hero…Sure, he he did his mistakes by going into crime, but now he truly wants to make up for it by making sure every Muslim in India is safe…

We must admire this man for taking care of our brothers and sisters in India amidst a horde of Hindu fanatics, bent on wiping Islam from India…

Let us pray for his success and his health and his longevity, so that he may continue to do his good work, securing and providing safety for Muslims, something which I can’t do sitting here…

Many Muslims here may bad-mouth Dawood Ibrahim for this and that, but that is to be expected…Pleasing others’ egos and providing timely affirmatives to non-Muslims is how many mod-Muslims display their version of Islam…I don’t buy that…If being a Muslim means standing alone for his beliefs and without support (Which it should be), then all I can say is, that may Allah :swt: forgive all of DI’s sins, and give him strength to help the Muslims…Ameen, Summa Ameen…

So indian muslims have another seviour in Dawood Ibrahim. . Terrible. . Its pathetic to see u coming in defense of a smuggler and murderer. U can pray as long as you want.. but he is not going to live longer. His life is doomd. He has to pay for his sins, and god willing he will.