Re: D.Cheney voices concern that Israel may attack Iran first
OK We hear you. How about you build a huge STOP Sign that people can see from miles away. You know that red octagonal sign with STOP in white, that type of sign. Place it where you want us to stop. We are good with folloiwng signs.
Re: D.Cheney voices concern that Israel may attack Iran first
Guy1: ALhan wa SAlhan Wa Murhaba
Answer my one quesiton:
This is a pakistani forum so what has Israel done to Pakistan that pakis are so pissed. Try answering this in the context of Pakistani not Islami.
Shukran
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Read "They dare to speak out" by Paul Findely.
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What did Hitler ever do to the current American generation that we continue to be so pissed off at him?
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don’t fool yourself into questioning the U.S’s military capabilities because of the insurgency situation in Iraq. if need be, the U.S could invade Iran and destroy it in a matter of days (without the use of nuclear weapons, mind you).
many people confuse a successful invasion with a successful occupation. the U.S could certainly not successfully occupy Iran, especially given its commitment in Iraq. i’ve noticed that many people forget that Iraq officially fell in a matter of days/weeks…similarly, Iran would fall very quickly. the military mismatch between the U.S and Iran is enormous.
if the U.S invaded Iran, it would have no intention of occupying it. such an operation would most likely be that of swift, tactical strikes on nuclear facilities, dismantling of Iran’s army regulars, and removal of the regime.
i still don’t believe an invasion of Iran is likely. Iran will be more willing to cooperate as a U.S threat moves closer to fruition. Iran can’t be that stupid.
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disgusting stuff
attacking Iran will be a bad & FATAL mistake on the part of US/Israel and they r really gonna regret it and suffer big time. they still haven’t won the war in Afghanistan or Iraq. they should worry about wrapping things up there first i think they’ve realised that they can’t win the war there so now they’re trying to mark new territory. or maybe trying to shift attention from the question: “where the heck are the WMD’s in Iraq?”
iran a nuclear threat to the terrorist israel? ha ha ha. this is the biggest joke i’ve heard. they cud’ve atleast come up with a better reason
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It is not likely right now. Infact it wouldn't be in the US's interest have a war with Iran whilst there's chaos in Iraq and Israel is not gonna be doing that to a country that practically feeds her. On the other hand, an attack on iran means syria and lebanon also get invoved, (not good for israel) and in turn the whole region will become unstable. Not something the US is looking for right now. so relax guys, cuz Iran is going ahead and theres not much we can do about it.
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mr verizon...believe me u dont seem to know anything...;)....u even dont know wht the hell role isrealis r playing against pakistan..so its betta for kids like u to see foxnews..be happy
and i will look palestine problem frommy islamic ideology.......each and every1 muslim is my brother and sister...where ever they live..i always think for their problems...
isrealis r going killing thousands and i hate isreal..and i pray for the destruction of isreal including with their all evil people....understand u media grown another american paki
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"They launched some missiles but that does not constitute a military attack in my opinion."
What a genius. Then a few missles into Iran shoud be no problem....
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tsunami in america will not be a problem for sure...m i wrong ohiogay
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Look A military attack is one that is pre-meditated and planned to meet an objective. Launching some missiles with no aim or desire is not a military attack. It is stupidity and a wasted oppurtunity.
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OK Fill me in cite examples where Israel has personally affected Pakistan in any way shape or form. Son don’t kid yourself by attending a hate filled sermon. Israel wouldn’t give 2 shiits about pakistan. Israel has more to offer to idnia than pakistan. There NOTHING in Pakistan that attracts Israel, The only thing that attracts is the stupid bomb which Inshallah they will blow up the moment mullahs take ove Pakistan. Have a blast digging up information that I requested in my first sentence. Dont come back till you have concrete examples with web links or solid proof.
I just read your hate filled last sentence and you know what Fcuk you too :french:
I couldn’t resist guy1. BTW what fcuking hypocrite you are, You tell me that you love Muslims and then your kind goes and kills shiias shame on you OH that s why I edited my post. If you are in bed with muslims why do you have a westernized nick. Why not a muslim sounding nck.
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For one who is always spouting “International Law” like some Desi Johnny Cochran, you are utterly ignorant about the consequenses of launching Scuds and killing people in other countries. It is an act of war. So is bombing reactors. No Arab country wants to take on the Israelis. It is a good way to lose most of your military.
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The desire was to get an Israeli response. Saddam figured that if Israel responded the Arab Street would start yapping and demand that their countries help Iraq attack Israel.
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Oh i agree OG. No country has the balls to start a war with Israel. That is why you had the scud "attacks" and not a proper military campaign. Saddam wanted to start a regional war. It wasn't a military decision. It was a political one.
It was a pathetic and stupid attempt on the part of a doomed man.
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even if usa/israel etc attack iran, none of the muslim countries ( as if they care ) can do any thing about it. i think i can safly label the present time arabs & most of the muslims as the dumbest people alive. though i can be wrong
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^ actually they are smart. If they were dumb, they would try to intervene.
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still they are bobos like antiobl used to say.
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Well If US/ISREAL attack Iran one has to consider the balance that's about to shift if countries like Iran, Syria r under attack ....... Both Iran and Syria r outspoken Russian Customers (not allies) ...... So Russian also benefit from such concerens/threats as both countries will do some shopping on Russian market ...... But Russia needs both countries for more than that ...... Russia once tried to get to the Indian Ocean (Afghanistan and then Pakistan had to follow but ....) This is not only important for Geo-political and strategic reasons but also for economic reasons ....... This way Russian Oil + Gas could serve India easily ...... So Russia can't/won't tolarate muchmore US-Presence in the region than it already has ...... That's one reason why Russia sold or deployed highly sophisticated SS2 Rockets/Missiles to Syria and Iran ...... something that sparked a Swift visit of Ariel Sharon to Moscow to calm down the Russians ...... It happend during the Yukos Affair as the Then Yukos Chief had close ties to Isreal ....... Isreal did everything in the media to call it Dictator's dealing after Yukos got "a new Owner "
The US think (actually they r sure) if Iran is attacked and somehow beaten badly in a few days or atleast severe damage is inflicted both materialy and Moraly it could help them to calm down the sitaution in Iraq also ....... I think it'll worsen the matter as Shia's a touch more emotional then Sunnis are ...... On the Otherhand the Irani oposition culd lose it's basis if US/Isreal attack it's Nuclear and Millitary facilities because this action will be commonly interpreted as an act of aggression which could drive the Liberal minded ppl into the fundamentalists corner ...... so teh result might be the opposite of what the US may seek (a regime change) ...... Isreal on the hand doesn't care what attack might spark and into what it may result ...... they solely want Iran's Nuclear facilities destroyed ...... So that Iran has no deterrent weapon .......
Isreal will no question use US-Tech, US-Know-how and maybe also it's man-power to strike but the question will be the scale of teh attacks ...... i guess it'll be attacks on the regime with parallel or time-shifted attacks on it nuclear facilities ...... Or attack and end the regime and someone into power who willingly gives the nuke ambitions up ...... No matter when and how it will happen but the result could be a fatal one as they r 3 countries atleast (and 5 in the region) which possess proved and working Nuclear waepons ......
Allah inko hidaiy't dey. Ameen
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Very well said. I agree.
I think the US intelligence geeks believe the liberal Iranian opposition will ultimately topple the Mullahs. Some quiet covert assistance may help speed that process up. But, whenever the Mullahs can whip the populace up into an anti-US frenzy because of US threats or actions, the opposition gets muted for a time and its cause is weekened. A bold and open US air attack on Iranian nuclear facilities would likely set back the opposition.
While the US will try to restrain Israel, my guess is that Israel’s willingness to remain patient is on a shorter timeline than our own. They have more at risk than we do and could conceivably go it alone. After leaving the Iranian nuclear facilities a smoking rubble, they will take their spanking from the US for being a bad little child.