Any picture uploaded to Facebook or any social media stays there forever... even if you delete it afterwards, there will be backup copies of your pictures in their servers and they can use it for advertising or index it to search.
And you allowed this by agrees to their* Terms and Conditions* during the signup. Legally they don't ask you for your picture and data, instead you allow them to use your pictures and data for their business and saving all your data is their business.
I've been to some dark corners of the Facebook and yes the situation is really bad. The girls just don't understand where their pictures might endup.
^ I was going to say, once you put something on fb, it becomes their property.
My friend had pics stolen off her Facebook and anonymously emailed to her mom when she was in college. In attempts to hurt either her mom or her, they have no idea but that's pretty pathetic. The only people who had Auntys email were from their masjid so it sounded like it was another mom. I guess this falls into the category for this thread.
There are bunch of websites devoted to exposing both men and women, either from past exes, cheaters that kind of thing. For example, women who have had their husbands cheat on them, expose private information and even going as far as putting someones social security as bank account information on a public website for payback to the mistress. It's pretty gross in all forms.
A woman in a village - her identity is known by all too (consider her picture is alive in front of people all day every day). Does that make it right to post someone's picture without their consent in a fashion without their consent expressly for the purpose of ridicule? I guess some of you would cheer on a woman being paraded naked in the village because you believe her person is public property.
As for facebook, I think that the whole world has been duped by policies of privacy that get changed overnight. When FB was first around, the understanding was the only entity that had access to your page was you or your friends. The whole bit of pics getting uploaded to google happened later. And it happened fast. I recall I was in grad school when the policies were changing and then surprised to find how google and other businesses now had access to pics.
A woman in a village - her identity is known by all too (consider her picture is alive in front of people all day every day). Does that make it right to post someone's picture without their consent in a fashion without their consent expressly for the purpose of ridicule? I guess some of you would cheer on a woman being paraded naked in the village because you believe her person is public property.
PCG, no one has stated that posting someone's pictures or information online without their consent is right or that others have a right to do so. What many have pointed out (and rightly so) is that even though it is wrong and even if people have no right to do so, they have the ability to do so by virtue of pictures being so easily accessible online and hence, one should be very cautious with what one posts online as others can access it and use it for their own (often nefarious) purposes.
Also, the fact that people have no right to violate other's privacy doesn't mean that they won't and one should be quite aware of that. While it would be nice to post whatever we like online without fear of consequences, that is not the type of world that we live in. People should take that into account rather than naively assuming otherwise.
the only difference is that in the old times women had no control over being dragged naked through the streets but modern age women do have both choice and control. they should not make their pictures public...simple! innit?
So making a picture public is reason enough for abuse? Wow! That sounds like the argument if a woman goes outside alone she is asking to be raped. Yes, it is careless ... But the greater blame goes on those people who do the act of vindictive nature not on the ones who had left themselves open.
the only difference is that in the old times women had no control over being dragged naked through the streets but modern age women do have both choice and control. they should not make their pictures public...simple! innit?
the only difference is that in the old times women had no control over being dragged naked through the streets but modern age women do have both choice and control. they should not make their pictures public...simple! innit?
So making a picture public is reason enough for abuse? Wow! That sounds like the argument if a woman goes outside alone she is asking to be raped. Yes, it is careless ... But the greater blame goes on those people who do the act of vindictive nature not on the ones who had left themselves open.
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Yes it is but at the same time, everyone is accountable for their actions. KKF was right, to avoid being a victim, just don't do it. It doesn't make the poster right at all but you can't control what people do online entirely. There isn't enough in place to set a standard of what happens to those people who violate other people's rights of posting their pictures. What has anyone done about facebook's privacy polices? Very little, regardless of all of the incidents that have taken place. Technically, shouldn't Facebook be the one to be blamed for allowing that kind of infringement on a persons right to take place on their platform. Shouldn't people make more of a hoot about it? Has it stopped the millions of users flocking to their network? .. Nope. If your going to post something online that you may not want the world to see then simply don't do it. If you do, then proceed with caution or at your own risk. There are not enough laws in place to protect you. It is that simple.
A woman in a village - her identity is known by all too (consider her picture is alive in front of people all day every day). Does that make it right to post someone's picture without their consent in a fashion without their consent expressly for the purpose of ridicule? I guess some of you would cheer on a woman being paraded naked in the village because you believe her person is public property.
As for facebook, I think that the whole world has been duped by policies of privacy that get changed overnight. When FB was first around, the understanding was the only entity that had access to your page was you or your friends. The whole bit of pics getting uploaded to google happened later. And it happened fast. I recall I was in grad school when the policies were changing and then surprised to find how google and other businesses now had access to pics.
PCG what village are you referring to exactly? How many woman who live in an actual village today have access to Facebook? Can you be more relative with the example. How did you get that some people would be okay with that kind of unethical behavior? Most Facebook users are very well aware of the dangers in posting private pictures online. Many do it anyway.
I am completely not getting the part about a woman being paraded naked on the streets as a similar scenario.
Maybe a real situation would apply better to your topic? Like about how a group of woman who were videotaped singing at a wedding were hunted down in their village somewhere in Pakistan when people in their area came across their YouTube video that someone else had posted. I don't recall if they were murdered or threatened.
Yes it is but at the same time, everyone is accountable for their actions. KKF was right, to avoid being a victim, just don't do it. It doesn't make the poster right at all but you can't control what people do online entirely. There isn't enough in place to set a standard of what happens to those people who take violate other people's rights. If your going to post something online that you may not want the world to see then simply don't do it. If you do, then proceed with caution or at your own risk.
Totally disagree. So let's say an innocuous picture of yours is posted online - let's say from your linkedin profile. Yes, you've put your photograph out there in the public space, but you didn't expect your picture to be reposted with derogatory messages or held up to ridicule you.
Manipulating photographs and reposting them in wrong - no possible excuse including "but you posted your picture or allowed someone else to post your picture somewhere on the Internet is ever an excuse.
The whole proceed with caution warning is fine - but is not good enough in this day and age.
As an example, you assume that you are anonymous online and as a result post/vent about your personal life. If tomorrow someone posts your picture and your "anonymous" posts are shared with your spouse/parents/in-laws/friends and relatives - would that be fair game because you gave up your right to privacy by creating an online profile and existing online
Ofcourse not but who are you going to turn to for help? My point is, the World Wide Web is exactly that, world wide. You may not expect it but what are you going to do if it does happen to you? It's been said many times, very little out on the Internet is private these days. It's not right, my point is if you fall victim there's very little you can do about it and you yourself will have to deal with it. Who are you going to call, the cops? A lawyer?
Even people in highest of highest positions fall victim. Case in point, government security breaches and most recently a huge corp like Target. Millions were affected with their personal information stolen off their bank cards. What happened? Not much because there's not really a way to track and chase people who do that kind of thing. To answer your question Shehrysh, fair game? Not at all but what are you going to do? What can you really do about it? So WHY put yourself in a vulnerable place? We don't own LinkedIn or Paklinks or wherever else you may decide to post, how can you be so sure it is private? There are people on the other end of these networks controlling these sites. Very little is in your control if you do decide to post something. You may not expect it, but then you become a victim and then what?
The point S and S and others are trying to make is not "oh, if someone gets your picture from online it's your fault and you deserve it for putting it out there," but that you should be cautious with what you post online in order to minimise the possibility of it happening to you. Yes, anyone is susceptible to it happening to them and it cannot be avoided entirely but there are certain precautions that one can take, such as being careful with what you post and reading the user agreements before uploading anything online. And no, a simple caution is not going to deter people from posting material online and is most certainly is not going to deter people from using other's pictures and personal information for malicious purposes but, unfortunately, there is little else that can be done.
Also, I'm surprised no one has mentioned this but there is software that you can implement that make it impossible for users to save and download your pictures online. I'm not sure what the exact program is called but I've seen people use it. I have a friend who is a blogger and fashion photographer and she uses it in order to prevent people from stealing pictures from her site for copyright reasons. Basically, when you try to save a picture from her site, it only saves a blank image. I know that this tool cannot be implemented on public platforms such as facebook and the like but it's something to look into if you're keen on posting pictures on other sites (ie. blogs).
Like about how a group of woman who were videotaped singing at a wedding were hunted down in their village somewhere in Pakistan when people in their area came across their YouTube video that someone else had posted. I don't recall if they were murdered or threatened.
Also, I'm surprised no one has mentioned this but there is software that you can implement that make it impossible for users to save and download your pictures online. I'm not sure what the exact program is called but I've seen people use it. I have a friend who is a blogger and fashion photographer and she uses it in order to prevent people from stealing pictures from her site for copyright reasons. Basically, when you try to save a picture from her site, it only saves a blank image. I know that this tool cannot be implemented on public platforms such as facebook and the like but it's something to look into if you're keen on posting pictures on other sites (ie. blogs).
It's not really a solution because people can still take screenshots..
As well as Linkedin a lot of company websites have employee pics and mini profiles online.. Many law firms, estate agents and even private hospitals in the UK do it..
So making a picture public is reason enough for abuse? Wow! That sounds like the argument if a woman goes outside alone she is asking to be raped. Yes, it is careless ... But the greater blame goes on those people who do the act of vindictive nature not on the ones who had left themselves open.
Aslam aik naik bacha tha. Rozana school jata tha. Baron ki izzet kerta tha aur choton say shafqat se paish aata tha. Larkiyon ki tasveerain internet pe post bhi nahee kerta tha.