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RealDeal,
An excellent report depicting current situation in pakistan. It is a failed country.
FARID
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No, I think you are a failed citizen (if you really are Pakistani).
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yes there was spark but then all went pear shape when two taking turns to loot the country. both NS BB, ZIA and Bhutto brought stand still in industrial growth.
now lets see how this going to go, go on like this even the PM is made in USA, I dont mind having US expereince to help my country.
Had there been no mockery of justice, dissolution of government I am pretty sure the growth would have gone up, after all even in Musharraf's first 3-4 years no signifcant growth occurred, its mostly last 2-3 years.
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It looks that Pakis have now divided in to two distinct groups, one very rich or elite class everything is in their reach and other group which is poor struggling for their survival. Middle class has now vanished. Thanks to imported PM made in USA. Farid
I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, Pakistanis living abroad only see the BMWs etc. and assume that everything is great.
The biggest problem is decreasing ratio of Middle Class. And its not because that middle class is rich - its because they're now poor (ofcourse am not talking about everyone).
As far as corruption is concerned, we always had corrupt civilians in upper hierarchy in govt. offices etc. but now army is part of them. All those retired army officials who are running those departments now, are getting as much as they can.
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sorry, the facts dont agree with your statements. I have posted those before and I guess you may have missed it.
additionally, any policy takes a little time to gain momentum.
The world financial community has strongly endorsed the actions taken by Shaukat Aziz, even prior to 9/11.
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well economies see boom and bust based on external and internal factors. so textile related boom as you mention was an anamoly, some windfall that had no basis in any sort of proactive work by the govt or industry. Things in that regard are much different.
And political stability is important, but political stability does not just mean having the same person in power but how stable is the country, the law and order situation etc etc. and our previous regimes were instable in more aspects than just the length of their tenure.
Their failure also was the polarized approach where they had to reinvent the wheel and nto follow thru on good policies of previous regime. start stop start stop simply does not work.
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They are incorrect in this data point. Unless they feel that a +/- 17% confidence level is good enough 
jang also says
*On the economic side, we keep congratulating ourselves on this or that good harvest and slight improvements here and there in foreign exchange reserves. But have we created the requisite scientific and technological infrastructure and know-how to move our economy into the 21st century? Are we anywhere near our neighbour India in this field in terms of trained manpower and infrastructure? What is the current comparative state of our industry and where is it going to stand in relation to our neighbour in ten or twenty years from now? Where do we stand in terms of producing value-added goods in relation to states similar to us? It goes without saying that a broad vision in this area for the future of the country has not been created and implemented so far. Indeed, our agriculture is yet to mechanise on the scale which exists today in the developed countries or even comparable developing countries. *
why ask all the questions? what about the answers? I mean anyone can ask questions. Its myopic to think that in a few years we will catch up with a country that had been taking the right steps in the 90’s. Infrastructure changes dont have immediate impact, so yes we are suffering from the utter incompetence of previous regimes who did minimal..if they did not actually backtrack.
so lets look at number of universities and institutes, foriegn invstment, high tch parks, joint ventures to increase local production, etc etc. Where is the journalistic integrity in reporting teh facts rather than asking questions without even bothering to put some context.
I mean tomorrow if you set up 20 MITs in Pakistan, does it mean that next week we will be competign with India? when was IIm set up, when was IIT and BITS etc set up? when were trade reforms made. then look at how it was capitalized on. what were we doing then? what were we doing as a nation at that time? what were we investing in?
Yes Pakistan has tons of issues, and they need to be fixed, but they can not be solely attributed to this regime, and good policies, investments and programs dont have an immediate avalanche impact, its takes time to build, it takes time to gain momentum. So lets talk about issues, lets figure out what needs to be done, but then realize that ills of decades can not be blamed on one person, each of our successive regimes from Zia’s time onwards made their own faux pas, made their own planning erroes, missed the boat etc etc. it multiplied. Now we expect to see that all vanish, and nto just vanish…go 180 degrees opposite?
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Musharrafs greatest flaw is the same as every other military or bureaucratic or political dictator...he may not be the cause of all Pakistans problems, but he is unable to be the solution and unwilling to allow anyone else to solve them either.
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An excellent report depicting current situation in pakistan. It is a failed country.
FARID
unfortunately yes, and with no realistic hope in sight.
After the support resulting from the war on 'terror' ends, God knows what will happen.:(
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correct.
forget about everything else. This present govt. couldn't even control food prices. or should I say that they didn't even bother.
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forget about everything else. This present govt. couldn't even control food prices. or should I say that they didn't even bother.
What do you mean bother? They are responsible for it! There are so many ministers of the PML -Q tanga league involved in hoarding. If they can't control it , then the better go home with their dictator.
If this black night of 7 years of Mush Bush rule continues, I fear Pakistan breaking up. We have already alienated 2 provinces. When will we understand, when the time bomb explodes?
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Hi Mufakkar! Howre you doing?
welcome back. :)
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I agree Zakk...
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muffakr,
"No, I think you are a failed citizen (if you really are Pakistani)."
Yes you are right, when majority province which support dictators and looters, definitely everything come apart. In the end every one would be loser.
FARID
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Ah yes, those were the days..cricket world champions, improving hockey, top squash player. 