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Heard I lot about this.. It is a sunnah.. Can any one know hijma in khi for frozen shoulder? Plus does it good when ttc?
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I didn't feel any difference but my husband felt very good and is planning to go again.
Our few relatives got it done somewhere in Tariq road.
it is a sunnah and I have heard it is good when ttc.
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Does cupping leave scars on the places it is applied?
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I've been curious about trying hijama and read up on it a few months ago. Not many hijama centers in my state though.
There are certain days of the month as per hadith when hijama is recommended. I do wonder how painful it is...I'm already pretty needle-shy and the idea of using a blood makes me wince.
I hope Mysti will share her experience.
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I am sorry and apologize, this is very un-scientific and un-authentic act.
While I do need to read about the background when someone says it is a sunnah, I think the act is nothing more than losing blood to make body to get stimulated and make more “fresh” blood.
The act essentially is not different from donating blood and I agree with Muzna post above.
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Don't jump to calling it unauthentic until you've researched the sunnah and found that the ahadith supporting it are sound/authentic.
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RV: Unauthentic means, not proven to be really scientific.
I have watched the video(s) of this and it is not scientific or medically proven to be different than letting the blood out by puncturing vein and donating blood.
Yes, it is true when perhaps needles and plastic bags or tubes were not invented it might have been a way to let the blood out of the body, to make body generate newer blood, but this cupping act simply makes people bleed from certain parts of the body in a different way, by making skin broken.
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If science does not approve, does it diminish his SAWS advice?
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The method is in question here.
Cupping has same effect as venipuncture.
There is SOME benefit of letting blood out. Does not matter how.
Blood pressure was treated by this method of leeches sucking blood and high iron disease (hemachromatosis) etc. can get better by regular blood donation.
But to say cupping is a good method altogether is being naive these days.
Let me summarise here blood circulation:
Start from the Heart.
Heart to Aorta, then Arteries, then capillaries, then venules, then veins, then back to heart.
A constant cycle through all over the body.
It does not matter if one does cupping (making blood out of venules or letting blood out by blood transfusion from bigger veins of arm.
Our spleen stores a certain amount of blood. if blood is lost by any means, the bone marrow reacts the SAME way regardless the blood is lost from arteries, veins or small capillaries.
Splenic blood responds first to replenish the loss, then bone marrow starts working harder to make more fresh blood cells.
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Diwana, zara socho...what if you were a nafisiati doctor? Scary thought, haina?
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Diwana, zara socho...what if you were a nafisiati doctor? Scary thought, haina?
ha ha.
sochna mera kaam nahin hai RV.
Sar mein dard hota hai Uos se. :D
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I know Diwana. It was a typo. Maaf karo.
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Just did a quick search online and I found these for reference.
*Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Messenger (SAW) said, “Indeed the best of remedies you have is cupping (hijama)…” [Saheeh al-Bukhaaree (5371)]
Abu Hurairah (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Messenger (SAW) said, “If there was something excellent to be used as a remedy then it is cupping (hijama).” [Saheeh Sunan abi Dawud (3857), Saheeh Sunan ibn Maajah (3476)].
Abdullah ibn Abbas (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Messenger (SAW) said, “I did not pass by an angel from the angels on the night journey except that they all said to me: Upon you is cupping (hijama), O Muhammad.” [Saheeh Sunan ibn Maajah (3477)].*
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Also, sometimes we expect to be cured or to see a profound difference after only single implementation when we need to give it more time.
My mom had back pain issue..after she got hijama done in saudia arabia on her trip to umrah...she is feeling much better. Pain level gone down from 8 to 2.
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There is some benefit from 'bleeding' or letting blood go out of body.
Cupping was an old method for it.
There is no real scientific or authentic reason to continue to do so...when other method of letting blood out are available.
Not arguing with someone's 'experience' here, but most of the 'benefits' we hear about cupping being useful relate to very vague problems and some of those can be considered "phychosomatic disorders.
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There is some benefit from 'bleeding' or letting blood go out of body.
Cupping was an old method for it.
There is no real scientific or authentic reason to continue to do so...when other method of letting blood out are available.
Not arguing with someone's 'experience' here, but most of the 'benefits' we hear about cupping being useful relate to very vague problems and some of those can be considered "phychosomatic disorders.
What is sunnah here?, just getting benefit from some deliberate bleeding, or is it a old cure method of letting the thick /*fasid *blood out through leeches or through small painless cuts.?
What ever everchanging scinece theories say, if some thing is proven through authentic ahadith then it is beter to stick to it. Cure is not the method but ALLAHs willingness to cure some one through that method( Remember that bani israel riwayat about a prophet curing himself from a medicine after he got shifa from the same through the same medicine before?), sticking with sunnahs makes it more highly likely to be cured.
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What is sunnah here?, just getting benefit from some deliberate bleeding, or is it a old cure method of letting the thick /*fasid *blood out through leeches or through small painless cuts.?
What ever everchanging scinece theories say, if some thing is proven through authentic ahadith then it is beter to stick to it. Cure is not the method but ALLAHs willingness to cure some one through that method( Remember that bani israel riwayat about a prophet curing himself from a medicine after he got shifa from the same through the same medicine before?), sticking with sunnahs makes it more highly likely to be cured.
My respected brother: You are confusing word sunnah with "Exactly what the prophet SAW did or advised".
Not Every ACT of the Prophet SAW has to be copied when essence of the act can be achieved.
You don't have to ride on a camel to get from point A to point B.
You don't have to use sword to kill an enemy.
You do not have to practice coitus interruptus to plan a pregnancy.
etc.
Actions of the prophet SAW or his advice are well respected.
But when the SAME effects can be achieved by a different method then no reason to keep doing same act.
You used thick/fasid blood here.
Cupping method makes blood thick and de-oxygenated by making it stagnant.
We all see when blood becomes stagnant/slows down and cannot reach lungs, it becomes dark and thick.
On top of that those who use fire in the cup actually make the inside of the cup lose oxygen and create vacuum so skin gets elevated and blood gets stagnant.
Moreover, the skin draws blood in to that area covered by the cup simply by temperature effect. (Hyperemia)
End result: Blood pools in to these areas, slows down and becomes dark.
Just a gimmick. Nothing more or less.
Now, when skin is stabbed by the knife, blood comes out, looks darker, and people think "bad" or fasid blood is eliminated from the body.
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look you can't argue with a persons experience .
Diwana if don't want to do it or don't believe in it then by all means don't do it. Shifa - cure is in the hands of Allah (Swt). Same method will not yield same results for everyone. I believe first an foremost to seek Allahs help. He can grant shifa in any way he chooses.