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First, "Pak-Indian" is a misnomer, Pakistan and India were united by and part of the same British Empire but they were not one country, Pakistan has it's own distinct heritage and history which is seperate from India but India likes to hijack it and pass off as its own.
once again...will u start some other thread and justify how that dravidian "pakistani" history and heritage is seperate from that of dravidian india?...
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I see no difference today between Pakistani and Indian culture except Indians are more tolerant and less proud.
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Culture is all-pervading and encompassing like a sea in which you float...It "sorrounds" and "contains" you and is concerned with practical, physical aspects of life...Religion on the other hand is a small component of culture that deals with metaphysical aspect of life i.e. who are we and what is the purpose of life.
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This is called Mubah in Islam. We can eat anything as long as its halaal, we can wear anything as long as it covers our sittar. So who makes the right and wrong criteria..........of course Islamic Culture.
Nobody is denying what you are saying..
The Muslim-Nation is multi-ethnic, like you said the religious aspects of our culture are the same because they come from the same religion but the ethnic aspects of our culture are different for each ethnicity and there is nothing wrong with variety, when it comes to the secular aspects of culture there is no one Muslim culture rather there are lots of Muslim cultures..
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Nobody is denying what you are saying..
The Muslim-Nation is multi-ethnic, like you said the religious aspects of our culture are the same because they come from the same religion but the ethnic aspects of our culture are different for each ethnicity and there is nothing wrong with variety, when it comes to the secular aspects of culture there is no one Muslim culture rather there are lots of Muslim cultures..
right on...:)
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When saudis dance with swords on duffs music, is that the islamic culture?
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And when they praise their king "sahib-ul-maluk' by standing as if they are offering namaz, is that the islamic culture?
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culture is that a woman cannot like and propose a man she likes.
religion says, nothing about a woman not being able to point at a man, and say i would like to marry you. of course he has to be receptive and in kind able to find mutual consent/
yet, it is a huge dichotomy that is interjected into the abyss of illusion-based- false-reality, that does nothing else, but denies women the ability to choose who they want to marry.
a change of mind, and spirits - if for ulterior motives, is another cultural underpinning that kills the honesty in any relationship ever built in this world.
anger feeds disappointment, which feeds fear, that leads to doubts and that frustrates which goes back to anger and so you have that perfect recipe for
never making the right decision, as you will never be perfectly sure of who to take on as a life partner, as a confidant and who to safely open up to.
in this regard then, a loner's life is worse off than that who has given a shoulder to someone but he/ she deprives themselves of a blessed partnership, merely to spite someone for something said, or done, in the midst of an argument.
religion clearly says do not doubt
and have faith
and the followers of the religions say they believe in it
but in their dealings they are just the opposite and doubt as well as cause lack of faith and trust in people as human beings - as life partners, as people who could other wise be a strong team of like minded and ambitious unit of a family - basis of a committed foundation of a family structure that can probably revive the generations to come.
but... time lost is never to be gained back
and after the fact, a delayed effort, for any damage control will at best be, of no use, a plain sad fact.
Do you think that sometimes people confuse a culture or traditons with religious teachings.
IF so, any examples you would like to share ?
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When saudis dance with swords on duffs music, is that the islamic culture?
And when they praise their king "sahib-ul-maluk' by standing as if they are offering namaz, is that the islamic culture?
no.......Dancing is not part of islamic culture......and i dont know what are you saying about stading and praising.
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If you happen to see Saudi TV b/w 1800-1900 GMT, you will see how people from all over the KSA come in and praise the King! He is sitting on his sofa and people stand in front of him as if they are offereing namaz. And they will recite poems in his praise.
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If you happen to see Saudi TV b/w 1800-1900 GMT, you will see how people from all over the KSA come in and praise the King! He is sitting on his sofa and people stand in front of him as if they are offereing namaz. And they will recite poems in his praise.
Well, I haven't seen them so what can I say about this?
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First, "Pak-Indian" is a misnomer, Pakistan and India were united by and part of the same British Empire but they were not one country, Pakistan has it's own distinct heritage and history which is seperate from India but India likes to hijack it and pass off as its own.
What's with the whole world is proud bit? How can somebody be proud of that which is not their own? If by the "Pak-Indian" misnomer you were referring to Hinduism then let me assure you that nobody is "proud of" the discriminatory caste system, the burning alive of widows, the offering of 'low-caste' babies to 'Dark Mother', the use of low-caste girls as temple prostitutes or the treatment of all foreigners and those not fortunate enough to be born into a priestly or imperial caste as filthy and untouchable.
Don't use Islamic and Arabian as interchangable, the former is a religion and religions are international whereas the latter is an ethnicity... The latest version of Islam might only be 1400 years old but Arabs (Ismaelites) have been around as a nation for very long time..
I'm proud to be Muslim but I'm also proud of Ancient Pakistan, it is even mentioned in the Hebrew Bible because the Hebrews had trade with us.
man u r full of ****. go and blow urself..thats ur culture
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man u r full of ****. go and blow urself..thats ur culture
bad language and cursing.....is that your culture?
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This is so disappointing... I didn't like the attitude of some people here but I thought they were better than this.. Hinduism is not about caste system, burning widows, and killing babies... Islam is not about blowing urself up, honour killings, and burkinis.. These are just curroptions of societies..
It seems like you all just senseless want to attack each other's religions to make yourself feel better abt your self... I'm very disappointed at the level of intellect in this discussion.
PS - Pakistan and India have common heritage.. Ancient Pakistanis and Ancient North Indians were the same people, who laid the foundations of Hinduism.. Just because Pakistanis are muslim now, they shouldnt try to misrepresent their history and disassociate it from Hinduism.. (Iranians became muslim, but they dont disassociate themselves from their Zorastrian past do they? a litttle maybe... but they shudnt either).. and Indians shudnt try to take all the credit for Ancient India.. that history is common to both ancient pakistanis and ancient north indians.. blah... I have a feeling I'm wasting my time again..
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A humble request: Let us discuss the differences in thoughts calmly, in a more friendly way and with logical reasonings, instead of personally criticizing each other.
p.s. It was not pointed at anyone in particular. Kindly forgive me if anyone felt offended by my request.